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Willing to bet they have him pretty high. I bet they'd take him pretty early if they had the chance.
Speculation: 2016 NHL Entry Draft Discussion (Part III)
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Willing to bet they have him pretty high. I bet they'd take him pretty early if they had the chance.
I don't think I'd have a total kineption if we took brown at like 7. I'd be very surprised but I could see why they'd gamble (not that I'd agree with it depending on who's available).
Numerically he's not actually a step off of the dmen (but the dmen numbers are far less reliable)
I generally don't go in for much outside the numbers but if brown has legit 1 c potential oh lordy... Even a 1b type at 6'6" it's just so rare.
His combination of size and scoring makes him a real wild card. He could be anything from Tom Wilson, to Nik Antropov, to Dustin Byuglien The Center Version.
As for Keller I'm still left humming and hawing. The issue is ehlerd and Connor are IMO comparable/better prospects and he doesn't have any of that "wild card" value, and is again, not a huge player.
I'd feel better about getting him knowing/thinking the teams before us "missed" him and I'm just not convinced that would be the case at 6-7, there's probably legitimately that many players in and around his wheel house.
I'm still hoping and praying a guy like PLD falls.
If your getting Keller outside the top 10 you're laughing. But at 6-7 I don't know if I believe he's actually plus value, more so par for the course.
Numerically he's not actually a step off of the dmen (but the dmen numbers are far less reliable)
I generally don't go in for much outside the numbers but if brown has legit 1 c potential oh lordy... Even a 1b type at 6'6" it's just so rare.
His combination of size and scoring makes him a real wild card. He could be anything from Tom Wilson, to Nik Antropov, to Dustin Byuglien The Center Version.
As for Keller I'm still left humming and hawing. The issue is ehlerd and Connor are IMO comparable/better prospects and he doesn't have any of that "wild card" value, and is again, not a huge player.
I'd feel better about getting him knowing/thinking the teams before us "missed" him and I'm just not convinced that would be the case at 6-7, there's probably legitimately that many players in and around his wheel house.
I'm still hoping and praying a guy like PLD falls.
If your getting Keller outside the top 10 you're laughing. But at 6-7 I don't know if I believe he's actually plus value, more so par for the course.
No doubt they have him pretty high. Every team would. But thinking 5th or 6th seed is the difference is a big leap. McKeen's just put out their April rankings that had Laine ahead of Matthews and McLeod 3rd with PLD 7th. If you go around to the different team boards their is a pretty wide range of perceived top picks. This draft will surprise as they all do.
http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-2016-top-30-nhl-draft-rankings-apr-2016/
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McKeen's is totally out to lunch. I'm betting that the Jets & several other teams have PLD 4th if not higher. I suppose its possible that somehow he lasts until 6th or even 7th, but that would be another steal in the neighborhood of the Ehlers-Connor steals.
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I very much doubt the Jets would pass on Dubios at 6 assuming the top ranked players are gone by then, why would they? Either way, if we are drafting 6th, I hope Dubois is gone by 4, watching him get taken at 5 would be very stinging
Really? The Jets, who had Trouba, Ehlers & Connor fall to them
Ok well you got me on Ehlers and Connor
but I was thinking Domi and Konecny.I very much doubt the Jets would pass on Dubios at 6 assuming the top ranked players are gone by then, why would they? Either way, if we are drafting 6th, I hope Dubois is gone by 4, watching him get taken at 5 would be very stinging
Ok well you got me on Ehlers and Connor
Fair enough, Konecny would have been nice
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I agree that Keller probably doesn't supplant Ehlers or Connor in terms of potential and electricity but if all the top forwards are gone, he seems to be a great prospect for the future, I mean between him, Nylander, McLoed or Jost would you take any of the other 3 over him. I have heard Giroux comparisons.
Logan Brown is very interesting indeed, there isn't that much between him and Nylander in primary point production and I certainly wouldn't rage if we drafted him in the top 10 either but I dunno, I feel about him the way you feel about Keller, if we were drafting 14th, that's the guy I'd be drooling over to fall to us.
I would be as happy as I was with Connor falling to us, if Dubois falls to us, I know praising him here is like preaching to the choir but wow those stats make me drool everytime I look at them and the kid is barely 17. I wonder if some teams have him over Pulj @ 3. But I am not going to get my hopes up about him falling.
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If we slip out of the top 6. We should take a chance on Jost. I see a lot of Tyler Seguin in him. I think he'd be higher up in the rankings had he played elsewhere.
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So now it remains to be seen if he will be able to convert those assets into a strong team. Having a theoretical willingness is only the first step. The kind of trading you suggested can be disastrous if you make 1 successful trade or 2 but can't complete the chain.
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Some of us have more idea than no idea.
No one knows who will be best, but some players are more likely to be better than others and there are better bets than others.
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McKeen also had their best mind essentially disavow that list as potential click bait.
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IMO lamenting a future event and implying that it was an organizational failure when there are so many unknowns is just another opportunity to offer your own biases. In terms of the upcoming draft there are 3 unknowns to any of us.
1) Outcome of the draft lottery.
2) Where the Jets have the top 10 players on their draft board.
3) Which players 5-10 years from now will end up having the best careers.
My bias is I trust an organization with a successful track record a large staff dedicated to it and a budget in the millions to have more information than I do spending some of my free time doing some reading and catching the odd game on TV.
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Their best mind?
Do they start the season with a ranking of their own staff?
you are literally on a roll tonight!
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I did. Kid is just an offensive powerhouse. Playing in the BCHL hurt his ranking though. I think he's going to kill it at UND next year. He could be a longer term project but when he's ready he could very well have #1 C potential.
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I wanted Sprong with that pick. By the end of the first rd and beyond there is a wide diversity of opinion.
Tkachuk now has 17 primary points (10 goals) and 47 SOG in 10 OHL playoff games.
Even if the Jets had tanked one or two more spots, the likelihood of a top 4 pick would have been remote, so if PLD goes in the top 4 he would have been out of reach regardless.
I'm not sure how much difference there is going to be among the 5-7 group, which is where we would have likely picked, and are still most likely to pick.
Even if the Jets had tanked one or two more spots, the likelihood of a top 4 pick would have been remote, so if PLD goes in the top 4 he would have been out of reach regardless.
I'm not sure how much difference there is going to be among the 5-7 group, which is where we would have likely picked, and are still most likely to pick.
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Who would you compare Jost to style wise? I guess if you saw him you must have watched Fabbro as well? I have quickly become a fan boy of Dante if you haven't noticed.
If the first trade is for #2, sure.
The second trade is probably unlikely to happen as Edmonton is the only team at the top of the draft IMO that's likely to trade down and settle for one of the D instead of taking a top forward. It's also unnecessary if they could get Laine in the first trade - settle for whichever D they feel is best at 7 and leave the draft with great prospects at F and D.
The last trade is completely unnecessary. If they're moving Trouba, it's because Myers and Buff is sufficient RHD. The top-4 would hopefully be Enstrom-Buff, Morrissey-Myers, and in a few years the D at #7 replacing Enstrom. That's how I see that scenario working out.
But I don't know if that first trade is realistic.
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