2016 NHL Draft

[Thrice]

Pretty weird draft. Seems like nothing really happened. Weren't there supposed to be major trades like Fowler and Shattenkirk? Brian Elliot was the biggest name traded???

Seems like every GM has cold feet. The expansion draft is on the horizon and nearly every one of them is too scared of "losing" a trade to make the painful but necessary moves before the last possible moment. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[eleventy]

Seems like every GM has cold feet. The expansion draft is on the horizon and nearly every one of them is too scared of "losing" a trade to make the painful but necessary moves before the last possible moment. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

I think the complication of expansion slowed movement this year tremendously. I have a hunch it'll pick up steam pretty quickly around UFA Day.

 

[Kingsfan1]

After reading on the main board that there were 50+ overagers and re entry players picked . This leads me to believe this really was a weak draft and the best players to come out of it could be found in the later rounds. Kinda reminds me of the 2007 , 2010 or 2011 Drafts. Where there was some talent at the top but the rest of the draft didnt amount to nothing and more of the better players were picks in the later rounds.

Knowing this makes me like our Clague and Moverare picks more because maybe they can be home runs for us. Could we have the Subban or Klingberg of 2010 in our prospect pool now ?

 

[Quattro]

Pretty weird draft. Seems like nothing really happened. Weren't there supposed to be major trades like Fowler and Shattenkirk? Brian Elliot was the biggest name traded???

Actually, it was Datsyuk

 

[KingsFan7824]

Bingo. I wasn't expecting any big moves, but I was expecting movement around the draft to acquire more picks. It was time to trade the likes of Clifford and get a pick or two

That's what a few of the usual publically available lists were alluding to. During a radio interview, Craig Button labeled the depth as terrible compared to other years.

Maybe these two things worked in concert. If the depth isn't necessarily there in this draft, why trade Clifford for picks in this draft?

What if the player that gets picked with the pick you got for Clifford doesn't end up making the NHL? Another chance to put a black mark on Lombardi's ability to trade and evaluate.

Also Martinez is not a top 4 dman. He is a bottom pairing dman making 4 million. He should either be hit with another + and sent out for an upgrade or traded for an up and coming defenseman.

How many teams want a $4m 3rd pairing defenseman? What's the + that you would accept as a rival GM to take the $4m cap hit of a 3rd pairing defenseman?

It's always funny seeing people rip on this or that player, and then say they should be traded. If they're that unproductive and/or overpaid, who else wants them?

 

[Thrice]

Also Martinez is not a top 4 dman. He is a bottom pairing dman making 4 million. He should either be hit with another + and sent out for an upgrade or traded for an up and coming defenseman.

Martinez ranked #48 in points (31), #22 in goals (10) #55 in assists (21), #35 in PPP (13)

He was within a handful of points of guys like Ekblad (36) Reilly (36) Green (35) Ekholm (35) McDonagh (34) Parayko (33) Ellis (32)

His production alone makes him in a 2nd pairing defenseman. He averaged 21:09 and he maintained a strong possession numbers - 52.9 CF%

The only knock I have on him is outside of his control. He's a left shot when we need a right shot next to Muzzin.

 

[Omni Owl]

Martinez ranked #48 in points (31), #22 in goals (10) #55 in assists (21), #35 in PPP (13)

He was within a handful of points of guys like Ekblad (36) Reilly (36) Green (35) Ekholm (35) McDonagh (34) Parayko (33) Ellis (32)

His production alone makes him in a 2nd pairing defenseman. He averaged 21:09 and he maintained a strong possession numbers - 52.9 CF%

The only knock I have on him is outside of his control. He's a left shot when we need a right shot next to Muzzin.

That's barely even a knock on him, he can play the right side fairly well.

Who got the ridiculous notion that Martinez isn't a top 4 defender?

 

[Telos]

I like that we got so many defenders and that they seemingly targeted the BPA is most situations. Defensemen are a strength of our development program and they are in higher demand and retain their value better overall.

 

[Martyros]

I thought Martinez had his best season yet, on the 1st year of this "big" contract and people are still complaining about him? He's worth that money and then some considering how much other dmen are making that aren't as good as he is on both ends.

I was and still am more worried about Muzzin's contract than Martinez'

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I wish we had our 3rd round pick so we could have drafted rhd Filip Berglund other then that I think we did well with what picks we did have

 

[bob77]

https://frozenroyalty.net/2016/06/22/yanetti-2016-draft/





https://frozenroyalty.net/2016/06/25/2016-nhl-draft-day2/



Tell you what, I don't know what trades were available. But I DO know that management and the scouting staff perceives this draft as important and know they need to maximize assets to keep the organization flowing. They Feel they have 5 NHL players. If those players aren't going to play, Yanetti himself said they have to be traded/maximized. If those players ARE going to play, then it's not unreasonable to expect them to be able to trade ONE of their bottom six players to create a roster spot for the players to compete.

I'm not saying Lombardi didn't try. I'm saying he did not achieve this very plain goal. I'd venture a guess he was one of the very few GMs who did not make a pick related trade. Considering he only had 4 picks, that's very disheartening.

I was reading the CBA and was intrigued by what makes a player a UFA. There is a thing about having 3 pro years, being 25 yrs old, and less than 80 NHL games. So, would this make guys like Dowd, Mersch, Gravel, Forbort Ufa after this year if and when their contracts expire at the end of next season? Would this be something to consider. All of these guys would have to play quite a few games, wouldn't they? Forbort played a dozen games or so. The rest fewer. Thoughts?

 

[Thrice]

That's barely even a knock on him, he can play the right side fairly well.

Who got the ridiculous notion that Martinez isn't a top 4 defender?

I don't have any stats to back it up but based solely on the eye test, his zone exits weren't nearly as clean or frequent while playing on the right side. I really wouldn't mind seeing Muzzin moved back to the 1st pair and Martinez playing left side full time on the 2nd pair next season.

 

[damacles1156]

I thought Martinez had his best season yet, on the 1st year of this "big" contract and people are still complaining about him? He's worth that money and then some considering how much other dmen are making that aren't as good as he is on both ends.

I was and still am more worried about Muzzin's contract than Martinez'

Muzzin is paid roughly the same, and has had back to back extremely productive years, Muzzin is the driver on his pairings, not the passenger.

 

[Brodeur]

Amen.

Last year, I sat near the St. Louis table hoping to land a Brodeur autograph. They didn't have a first round pick. At some point during the first round, I looked over at their table and it was a dozen guys just staring blankly into space. I should have taken a video of it. It was oddly comical.

Interesting comment.Most drafts, moving around seems almost a given.

Maybe tough since the Kings will probably be picking in the later stages of the round.

Islanders were able to move up 15 spots in the 4th round (#110 to #95) and it only cost them a future 6th rounder. Islanders also were able to trade next year's 4th rounder to the Flyers for a late fourth rounder (#120).

Blackhawks traded a 5th rounder (#144) to St. Louis for their 5th rounder next year.

 

[Kingsfan1]

Maybe these two things worked in concert. If the depth isn't necessarily there in this draft, why trade Clifford for picks in this draft?

What if the player that gets picked with the pick you got for Clifford doesn't end up making the NHL? Another chance to put a black mark on Lombardi's ability to trade and evaluate.



How many teams want a $4m 3rd pairing defenseman? What's the + that you would accept as a rival GM to take the $4m cap hit of a 3rd pairing defenseman?

It's always funny seeing people rip on this or that player, and then say they should be traded. If they're that unproductive and/or overpaid, who else wants them?

Martinez ranked #48 in points (31), #22 in goals (10) #55 in assists (21), #35 in PPP (13)

He was within a handful of points of guys like Ekblad (36) Reilly (36) Green (35) Ekholm (35) McDonagh (34) Parayko (33) Ellis (32)

His production alone makes him in a 2nd pairing defenseman. He averaged 21:09 and he maintained a strong possession numbers - 52.9 CF%

The only knock I have on him is outside of his control. He's a left shot when we need a right shot next to Muzzin.

That's barely even a knock on him, he can play the right side fairly well.

Who got the ridiculous notion that Martinez isn't a top 4 defender?

In our system Martinez isn't a top 4 defender. This is why Sutter started playing Scuderi more minutes for a stretch and lowered Martinez minutes tremendously. I love Martinez he's a great defender but maybe he will thrive even more and score more points in a different system and be a top 4 defender for that team in there perspective of the term. I just think we can definitely improve the #4 spot and have a cost effective bottom pairing.

Martinez was always at his best when he was on paired on our bottom pairing.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

In our system Martinez isn't a top 4 defender. This is why Sutter started playing Scuderi more minutes for a stretch and lowered Martinez minutes tremendously. I love Martinez he's a great defender but maybe he will thrive even more and score more points in a different system and be a top 4 defender for that team in there perspective of the term. I just think we can definitely improve the #4 spot and have a cost effective bottom pairing.

Martinez was always at his best when he was on paired on our bottom pairing.

The **** are you talking about? Martinez enjoyed his most productive season and his point totals were good enough to finish 8th overall in scoring on the Kings.

Scuderi only saw a few games with Doughty because of McNabb's play. The Kings need to add to the current top 3, not take away from it.

 

[YP44]

The **** are you talking about? Martinez enjoyed his most productive season and his point totals were good enough to finish 8th overall in scoring on the Kings.

Scuderi only saw a few games with Doughty because of McNabb's play. The Kings need to add to the current top 3, not take away from it.

not to mention Martinez's injury