2016 Draft Talk II

[Rzombo4 prez]

Do you guys think we would regret passing on McLeod if he is left at #16?

I could see him going off a yea after his draft year, and making teams look dumb for passing. Hard to say.

When I look at Mcleod, I see a player that looks a hell of a lot like AA with a slightly better understanding of defensive hockey. I think that one AA/Mcleod is enough for this organization.

 

[Tatar]

Feels like a very underwhelming year for defensemen.

This. I can't really read the Wings vibe on any definitive player in the 15-25 position. I have a feeling the pick will be traded.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Obvious insanity. They dont agree with the collective consensus all the other people who have barely watched the prospects have created.

I would never take Stanley or Niemelainen ahead of McAvoy. It is fair to question McAvoy's decision making from time to time, but I would never call his skating average.

 

[Frk It]

When I look at Mcleod, I see a player that looks a hell of a lot like AA with a slightly better understanding of defensive hockey. I think that one AA/Mcleod is enough for this organization.

I don't really see the AA similarity except the skating. McLeod is great on draws and solid defensively.

On the main board someone posted a thread on Kesler from 2004, and it sounds pretty much exactly like how people are talking about McLeod.

Not saying he will be Kesler, but it is food for thought.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I don't really see the AA similarity except the skating. McLeod is great on draws and solid defensively.

On the main board someone posted a thread on Kesler from 2004, and it sounds pretty much exactly like how people are talking about McLeod.

Not saying he will be Kesler, but it is food for thought.

Just like AA, ALL of his offensive production comes in transition. Like AA, he only plays in one gear. Like AA, he does not move east-west with the puck to buy time and space for his teammates. Both have underdeveloped shooting skills. Both are better athletes than hockey players. They aren't the exact same player, but they have a lot in common with the puck on their stick.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Feels like a very underwhelming year for defensemen.

The best defensemen in this draft aren't quite as good as others in recent years, but the next tier is no worse than most years. Seeing as we are not picking in the top 5, I don't know why we should be concerned about the relative strength of the best defensemen in this class.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

The chances of it happening are incredibly slim but Clayton Keller is going to be an absolute stud. I would do so much to get him on the Wings. Just another emerging American talent.

 

[Martinez]

I don't really see the AA similarity except the skating. McLeod is great on draws and solid defensively.

On the main board someone posted a thread on Kesler from 2004, and it sounds pretty much exactly like how people are talking about McLeod.

Not saying he will be Kesler, but it is food for thought.

I've also heard ROR with great skating. Fabbro has always been my first choice but McLeod is my second, followed by kunin and rub.

 

[Frk It]

Like AA, he only plays in one gear.

Agree

Both have underdeveloped shooting skills.

Agree

Both are better athletes than hockey players.

AA has closed that gap a ton compared to when he was drafted. Maybe McLeod can do the same thing.

A two way 2C that is good at draws and can push the tempo would be a welcome addition to this team.

 

[snailderby]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

I personally am not really bullish on the trade back. I think the top 20 or so guys are significantly better than what comes after 20 or so.

 

[HisNoodliness]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

Depends on who was there at 16, but I'd prefer to stay at 16 in most scenarios.

 

[Frk It]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

Impossible to say.

Totally depends on if someone unexpected falls. Or how you have the guys ranked that are remaining at 16.

 

[BinCookin]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

I don't really follow prospects this young.

But i can say Detroit has a lot of depth. Alot of forwards and D-men who are "NHL" caliber. But...

We do not have a lot of TOP quality talent.

I would prefer we had less picks, and traded up as opposed to down.
on the ASSUMPTION that the higher the pick = higher ceiling for the player.

Detroit drafting has always impressed me, So i like as many picks as we can get.

But in the case of the 1st rounder.. I think 16th vs 25th is a big difference.

When we trade something like the 24th for the 32nd + 45th (something like that) it was a good deal.

I think the 16th pick if even 3/4ths of a Larkin pick... is much much more valuable.

 

[Ezekial]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

Not this draft, as was said we lack top end talent - also this draft has decent value at both D and C around our pick.

 

[Reddwit]

McLeod kind of sounds like a big Derek Stepan.

 

[njx9]

If the opportunity were to present itself, would you trade down 5 to 10 picks into the 20-25 range to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick?

Only if the only players left at our pick are wingers. I'd much rather move up, if the FO identifies someone they think is a stud, than move down and pick from the leftovers.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Only if the only players left at our pick are wingers. I'd much rather move up, if the FO identifies someone they think is a stud, than move down and pick from the leftovers.

This exactly. If one of Fabbro/McEvoy/Bean is still around, I think you have to make that pick. And if by some cruel twist of fate they aren't, you should have a shot at somebody like McLeod. But in the even weirder scenario where no defensemen AND no centers are available, I guess you have to trade down and grab a defenseman like Kale Clague or Cam Dineen.

 

[Henkka]

**** the defencemen. I want Rubtsov.

http://thehockeywriters.com/german-rubtsov-the-next-ones-nhl-2016-draft-prospect-profile/

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

**** the defencemen. I want Rubtsov.

http://thehockeywriters.com/german-rubtsov-the-next-ones-nhl-2016-draft-prospect-profile/

This is where I am leaning, I really want Rubstov.

I also would be super pumped if we are the team that drafts Sean Day in the second or third.

Would be an A+++ for me if they pull that off.

 

[Ezekial]

I'd be happy with Rubtsov as well, I think this first round is pretty deep, seems to be a lot of possibilities for a good player to be there at 15.

 

[KasperTheGrittyGhost]

Rubstov is my guy. I'd rank the likely available choices as:
1) Rubstov
2) Fabbro
3) McCleod
4) McAvoy

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Rubstov is my guy. I'd rank the likely available choices as:
1) Rubstov
2) Fabbro
3) McCleod
4) McAvoy

Then I hope rubstov is taken

 

[BStinson]

Curious as to how you guys rank the top 5 skaters in this draft? I'm trying to track this year to see how "cookie cutter" the league is going to be about snagging those speedy guys since the Pens just won.

Edit - by skaters I don't mean top 5 ranked (Matthews, Laine, etc) I mean who do you think is the overall best skaters (acceleration, cut, top end speed, etc.)

 

[Ezekial]

It'd be crazy if we were to draft McLeod:
Larkin
McLeod
AA
Can't possibly get faster down the middle than that.

Still hoping for Fabbro, but I'm all for drafting a center if Rubs or McLeod are there. I certainly don't think it's D or bust in the first round, IMO that's shortsighted.