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[major major]

Foligno + Golobeuf for Vatanen.
Hartnell for a late first.
Jenner gets the C. Saad gets an A.
McBackup to sharks for late pick.
Tyutin/Campbell to anywhere
Sign Jenner/Jones/Vatanen
Use the two first to move up to 2/3 and draft one of the Finns

Jenner Dubinsky Atkinson
Laine/Pulijarrvi Wennberg Saad
_____. _______ Rychel
Calvert Karlsson ______

Murray Jones
Johnson Savard
Werenski Vatanen

Bobrovsky

So we trade two of our top scorers and get a guy who you put on our third pair? That's a very clear downgrade.

 

[Cowumbus]

So we trade two of our top scorers and get a guy who you put on our third pair? That's a very clear downgrade.

Vatanen> Savard but didn't wanna brake JJ and Savy up

Go from worst to top 10 d in the NHL

 

[major major]

Vatanen> Savrd but didn't wanna brake JJ and Savy up

Sure, but it doesn't make sense to pay so much for a guy if you're not going to use him heavily.

 

[Cowumbus]

Sure, but it doesn't make sense to pay so much for a guy if you're not going to use him heavily.

Okay well then

Murray Jones
Savard Vatanen
USA USA

My thinking was more of the top line getting a lot and the bottom 4 splitting the load

 

[major major]

Okay well then

Murray Jones
Savard Vatanen
USA USA

My thinking was more of the top line getting a lot and the bottom 4 splitting the load

Right and now you've got JJ on the bottom pair. Same problem.

 

[Cowumbus]

Right and now you've got JJ on the bottom pair. Same problem.

JJ will be another year older. Nashville seemed to do pretty well defensively with their d like this and Seth jones on the bottom pair

 

[Kev22]

After seeing the latest Puckrakers with Davidson's comments (posted 2/15), I really only think we see two moves, possibly a third. None of the kids are going anywhere unless it's going to make this club much better. That means Cam is safe and he should be. I would think the goal is to move out one defenseman, either Tyutin or Johnson and one or two older forwards, likely Hartnell and/or Campbell. I could see the asking price being picks and prospects. GMJK has to be looking for the cap space that allows him to sign Jones, Jenner and Karlsson.

Lineup next season will probably look like this:

Jenner-Dubinsky-Atkinson
Foligno-Wennberg-Saad
Calvert-Karlsson-Rychel
Anderson-Chaput-Boll/Clarkson

Jones-Murray
Johnson-Savard
Werenski-Goloubef
Paliotta

Bobrovsky
Korpisalo

 

[Derby]

After seeing the latest Puckrakers with Davidson's comments (posted 2/15), I really only think we see two moves, possibly a third. None of the kids are going anywhere unless it's going to make this club much better. That means Cam is safe and he should be. I would think the goal is to move out one defenseman, either Tyutin or Johnson and one or two older forwards, likely Hartnell and/or Campbell. I could see the asking price being picks and prospects. GMJK has to be looking for the cap space that allows him to sign Jones, Jenner and Karlsson.

That all depends if JD thinks 26 (27 in early June) is a "kid". Cam is in the middle of his career, though many of us see him as a "kid" on this team, he is not. Jack just turned 29 last month.

All that said, I hope they keep him.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

After seeing the latest Puckrakers with Davidson's comments (posted 2/15), I really only think we see two moves, possibly a third. None of the kids are going anywhere unless it's going to make this club much better. That means Cam is safe and he should be. I would think the goal is to move out one defenseman, either Tyutin or Johnson and one or two older forwards, likely Hartnell and/or Campbell. I could see the asking price being picks and prospects. GMJK has to be looking for the cap space that allows him to sign Jones, Jenner and Karlsson.

Just to add context, here's the comments from the article.

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2016/02/building-not-rebuilding.html

"We’re in the midst of a build, three and a half years into it," Davidson told The Dispatch today. "Now that first half-year (the lockout-shortened 2012-13 season) is kind of getting-to-know-you. But three years into the build, some things have gone well and some things haven’t. But, no, we’re not looking to tear this thing down.

"Are you kidding? We have some pieces in place. These guys are going to play every game to win. That’s just in their DNA and the coaches DNA to win every game they play. That’s just how it is."

The Blue Jackets are 6-1-1 in their last eight games heading into Tuesday's game with the Boston Bruins in Nationwide Arena.

The Jackets expected this to be the stretch drive of a playoff run -- they're in the midst of playing 15 of 20 games in Nationwide -- but all the recent surge has done is pull they out of the NHL basement. An 0-8-0 start to the season was devastating.

"Basically the teams in this league that are good teams, they’ve all gone through being at the bottom and drafting and rebuilding … there’s a time element to this for most teams," Davidson said. "Los Angeles ... I give them a lot of credit. They didn’t have to rely on being at the bottom of the league. The other teams have lived on it, and that’s just what they’ve done, and eventually they find success because they’ve been able to draft some pretty good players.

"We’ve gone through a lot this year, good and bad. But there’s no change in the plan. We’ve done good things. We’ve made some mistakes. But you live with that and you continue with your plan, and you honestly try to win as you try to get better. That’s just in our DNA here. That’s what we do. It just is what it is."

Davidson would not shine any light on the club's plans at the trade deadline, except to say that the organization's young talent will not be dealt.

"Oh, no. We’re not giving up on our future," Davidson said. "No chance, unless it just makes a ton of sense. There’s no sense that happens. We’re going to continue to draft and develop and go through the process, whether it’s here, Cleveland, junior, college, Europe … whatever it is. We hired Jarkko Ruutu to give ourselves two of those guys in development. We've got Clarkie (Chris Clark) here and Jarkko over there, because growing our young kids the right was is very important for us.

"We’re in the middle of a process. It just is what it is."

Who could have anticipated this at the start of the season?

"It’s hard to figure out why it’s happening when you're going through it," Davidson said. "But at the same time, you’ve got the experience of going through it 7-8 years in St. Louis. I’ve had everything thrown at me from A to Z. You know, “trade a first-rounder, get somebody and at least we’ll have a chance!” Well it doesn’t happen like that. You can’t do it. You can’t. You have to take the bullets and move forward.

"I know one thing: You’ve to have strong goaltending to win, and when we’ve had strong goaltending at various times this year, we’ve won a lot of games. It has a lot to do with it. It comes down to keeping the puck out of the net, and we’ve done better at that lately. You’re not going to win if you’re one of the three worst teams at goals-against. You just won’t. It’s pretty simple."

 

[niflheim]

Thank You, CBJWennberg41!
Too long article. I read it tomorrow morning

 

[JacketsDavid]

Thanks for the link, interesting!

I have no idea what will happen over next couple of weeks. I could see a lot of moves (to free up roster spots and some salary relief) or more than likely a couple moves to move some vets.

Again it SHOULD BE a sellers market with only a few teams in active sell mode and a lot of teams potentially buying.

But with JD and Jarmo likely on a short leash (I think someone said their contracts just go thru next season) they will likely try to win next season unless they can convince ownership that it's going to take a bit longer and get them to believe that.

 

[niflheim]

What can I say about JD speech... Disappointed? No. Unimpressed- probably right word. I remember our owner gave 3 years for retooling. This stage had proud name " brick by brick". As I see "brick" stage is finished. But house is not ready, because we have good and bad bricks. Now our front office is going to start another stage, " stage of DNA crystallization", expected to last another 4 years. Behind these " passionate" phrases I see only intention to keep their jobs for X more years. True result of front office job - we are cap team that fighting for 1 pick.

 

[EspenK]

Gaborik out long term

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/02/16/gaborik-out-long-term-for-sure-but-kings-hopeful-for-playoff-return/

hey, let's get a Cup for Hartsy

 

[CBJx614]

So from Davidsons comments im guessing Hartnell and Tyutin are definitely gone. Makes room for Rychel to move up and potentiallyWerenski at the end of this season or next year.

 

[major major]

So from Davidsons comments im guessing Hartnell and Tyutin are definitely gone. Makes room for Rychel to move up and potentiallyWerenski at the end of this season or next year.

I somehow didn't take anything like that from JDs comments.

 

[Cowumbus]

hypothetically lets say hartnell gets traded to the ducks for vatanen... do the cbj then look to trade JMFJ for a winger or offensive help?

 

[major major]

hypothetically lets say hartnell gets traded to the ducks for vatanen... do the cbj then look to trade JMFJ for a winger or offensive help?

That would be too many rhd, and a shortage of lhd. Right now it's balanced, and I don't see much reason to change that.

 

[WannabeFinn]

hypothetically lets say hartnell gets traded to the ducks for vatanen... do the cbj then look to trade JMFJ for a winger or offensive help?

So... who are we adding to Hartnell to acquire Vatman? What do we re-sign him for? Who plays left side on the 2nd pairing?

 

[CBJSlash]

While there is certainly psychology at play -- I'm a bit annoyed that he waited for a strong stretch of play before he faced the music.

 

[EspenK]

While there is certainly psychology at play -- I'm a bit annoyed that he waited for a strong stretch of play before he faced the music.

who? what does this mean?

 

[CBJSlash]

who? what does this mean?

I am referring to JD. He has been pretty invisible.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

I am referring to JD. He has been pretty invisible.

He has probably been busy interviewing for a new job.

 

[CBJ goalie]

I don't see Hartnell being traded, at least I hope he isn't.
I love what Harntell brings to this team, and he wants to play for the CBJ.
They've traded Johansen for D, why trade away another scorer?

My preference to move?
Tyutin is expendable, and should be easy to move (senior D always a premium)
Campbell, has that experience some teams crave. He just doesn't seem to have fit in with CBJ.
Boll, maybe someone looking for toughness.

 

[NotWendell]

What are the odds we could get Backes as a free agent? Big body, right handed shot, can play center or right wing.

 

[JKinCLE]

I don't see Hartnell being traded, at least I hope he isn't.
I love what Harntell brings to this team, and he wants to play for the CBJ.
They've traded Johansen for D, why trade away another scorer?

My preference to move?
Tyutin is expendable, and should be easy to move (senior D always a premium)
Campbell, has that experience some teams crave. He just doesn't seem to have fit in with CBJ.
Boll, maybe someone looking for toughness.

I agree with this. If the Jackets want to unload him for the sake of moving a contract that sucks. Obviously if the return is of fair value slightly favoring the CBJ (aka not Frattin and a 2nd), then go for it. But I'm definitely not opposed to keeping Hartsy for another year and going for the playoffs next year. I think he has another productive year in him, and he will probably be just as valuable if not more valuable next year with less term on the contract in case they are sellers at the TDL again.

As long as we can move Tyutin, Campbell and I guess Boll. We should be ok since we have useless Rene Bourque @ 3.3m coming off the books.