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Kings are much deeper in the development system in defense than forwards. I think they go 7-3-1 for sure.
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Just noticed Martinez is leading the team in points so far. 9 points in 11 games. Go Martino Go
kingsfan28
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I'm just gonna leave this here for you to digests:
http://elitesportsny.com/2016/11/04/new-york-islanders-a-swap-with-los-angeles-kings-may-be-on/
http://elitesportsny.com/2016/11/04/new-york-islanders-a-swap-with-los-angeles-kings-may-be-on/
And if Dowd is selected then who replaces him? The kings have zippo center depth. None. Zilch. Dowd will be protected. Dowd is cheap and he has plenty of upside. Forbert has 1st pairing upside no way he gets exposed. Amart is great on the bottom pair and a decent middle pairing. Amart also has to play his offside which diminishes his effectiveness a bit.
The best the kings can hope for (from an Amart perspective) is they're out of the playoffs before the deadline and Amart can return some assets in a trade. There is also a chance he doesn't get selected because of numbers. Vegas can only take 9D he might not make the cut there although I think he would. The other possibility is they take Gaborik. They do have a salary floor to meet and if Gaborik is playing well they may want him anyway.
This is a no-brainer and of course DL has to lose the loyalty program.
King'sPawn
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I'm just gonna leave this here for you to digests:
Halak + forward for Carter or Toffoli + pick? Sounds like an HF proposal. Horrible.
CowMix
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Makes perfect sense. why wouldn't a team that can't score trade a goal scorer for a backup goalie?
CTKingsFan
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damacles1156
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It's okay. The Kings are going to lose a player. I don't see losing the 4th best defender, regardless of who someone thinks that is, over Dowd. Love the way Dowd is playing. Still doesn't change that the team is built on it's defense and doesn't need to be weakened.
Only way moving Carter or Toffoli would make sense is to bring in a young center with elite potential and take a year or 2 off to regroup. If that is the case, trading for Halak as well doesn't make sense unless it's a cap dump to be flipped at the deadline as removing Toffoli or Carter would probably make the offense worse then Van's at this point.
Barzal is about their best center prospect and Lombardi traded the pick instead of drafting him.
Don't see it.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
And with a 4.5 mil cap hit...for another year! That would be like what, 8-9 mil just for two goalies.
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As of right now Martinez is way more of a proven element then both our unproven rookies, one of which was labeled a bust by 90% of Hockeysfuture a month ago. Let's give it a few more months and revisit this. I have no problem trading AMart at the trade deadline if we are out and it helps our teams future, something that should have been done with Williams. If the rookies impress this year I am all for youth.
I for one would try and use AMart as a piece for Trouba. It would be expensive but if there is a year for a mini retool this would be the year.
KingsFan7824
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If Dowd plays well all year, tough to see Lombardi not protecting him. He loves defensemen, but he also loves centers. Since the Kings can only lose 1 player in the draft, and if McNabb/Forbort/Gravel/LaDue are all sort of in the same group, losing McNabb or Forbort is easier to adapt to. Unless Lombardi makes some sort of trade so that Vegas takes Lewis instead or whatever.
The Tikkanen
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And with a 4.5 mil cap hit...for another year! That would be like what, 8-9 mil just for two goalies.
And Halak cannot be protected from Vegas. You're gonna see teams that fall out of the playoff race dump good players they don't plan on protecting. Then you'll have teams like Pittsburgh and Vancouver try to get out of their 2 goalie system cause they could lose one of those guys for nothing. Teams will get desperate.
Kingsfan1
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Kopitar
Pearson
Carter
Toffoli
Gaborik
Dowd
Shore/Lewis ?
Doughty
Muzzin
Martinez
Quick
Mcnabb was signed for 2 years and it was done for the expansion draft. We have much more defense than offense so if they take one of Mcnabb , Forbort , Etc... We can rebound as we have Ladue , Gravel , And Clague and Cernak who look promising . I dont find Gaboriks contract bad at all and think he will score 20+ goals throughout the tenure of the contract and see him being protected .
I think this is exactly how it's going to play out. I like McNabb more than most, but from what Forbort, Gravel, and LaDue have shown so far this year he's not hard to replace and we are going to need at save at least some money on defense to pay the offense. The Kings are in a spot where 9 would be the ideal number of protected skaters, but since it's 10 or 8, it's going to be 10.
KingPuckChoo
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wonder if there's a package deal that can be done with Buffalo involving
Girgensons, Bogosian, and Ullmark for Brown + (Martinez, King, Prospect, what have you)
Girgensons seems to be playing less and less for them
Bogosian has a similar contract than Brown (Brown having an extra year)
if Bogosian sucks, it'll cost us less to buy him out after this year
Girgensons, Bogosian, and Ullmark for Brown + (Martinez, King, Prospect, what have you)
Girgensons seems to be playing less and less for them
Bogosian has a similar contract than Brown (Brown having an extra year)
if Bogosian sucks, it'll cost us less to buy him out after this year
CTKingsFan
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That's how I see it, too. I would consider Mersch as the possibly the 7th forward. I like the idea of leaving Lewis unprotected with idea that maybe they select him over McNabb or Forbort. But there's value in protecting Lewis as well. So either one works for me.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
Gaborik--Kopitar--Purcell*
Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Brown--Dowd--Seto
Clifford--Shore--Lewis
Andreoff
Forbort--Doughty
Muzzin--Gravel
McNabb--Martinez
Gilbert
Quick
Zatkoff
Let's the Kings trade King, Greene, Nolan for some prospects and picks or *RW with skill.
Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Brown--Dowd--Seto
Clifford--Shore--Lewis
Andreoff
Forbort--Doughty
Muzzin--Gravel
McNabb--Martinez
Gilbert
Quick
Zatkoff
Let's the Kings trade King, Greene, Nolan for some prospects and picks or *RW with skill.
There is zero chance the Kings expose Forbert to keep Amart. I'm getting a huge kick out of this since for the past two years virtually every proposal to improve the team involved trading Martinez now all of a sudden he's Ray Bourque.
Muzzfan
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Personally, I think Martinez is highly underrated. Him on the 3rd pairing with Greene a number of years ago and we never go caught in our zone. Sure Doughty and Voynov were better at the time, but the Kings were NEVER stuck in their zone.
If you remember the record with and without Martinez the year he was injured, it was emphatically a better win-loss with him in the line-up versus without.
The guy put the final nail in our 2nd cup and I could see that developing from the moment he passed to Toffoli. I knew he could outskate just getting onto the ice.
No need to lose a Puck moving defenseman - especially one that can play either right or left.
He isn't a hall of famer, but I absolutely want him on our defensive corps.
If you remember the record with and without Martinez the year he was injured, it was emphatically a better win-loss with him in the line-up versus without.
The guy put the final nail in our 2nd cup and I could see that developing from the moment he passed to Toffoli. I knew he could outskate just getting onto the ice.
No need to lose a Puck moving defenseman - especially one that can play either right or left.
He isn't a hall of famer, but I absolutely want him on our defensive corps.
KingsFan7824
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Well Forbort has been called a bust for a few years too. Now all of a sudden he's 100% more important than Martinez?
The Tikkanen
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This is probably Dean's toughest decision since he reached on Forbort, we all know who he could have taken, and now that Derek seems to be coming into his own you could lose him or McNabb. I think a better idea is to build a Vegas team with the cap and try to figure out if they'll even need a Forbort or McNabb. They could be loaded at D and select Lewis to anchor the bottom 6 (not sure if that's literal or figurative). Vegas will be loaded in net for sure and the theory is they will be good defensively as well with the 3 being protected by the majority of NHL teams. Hypothetically, that's 30 #4 defensemen available so would you need Forbort?
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