2016-17 roster

[bumblebeeman]

It's a toss up. Dano is grittier and a good net front guy which would be good with petan and Perrault, but Armia is big and maybe a better skater and better defensively.

 

[csk]

Nice lineup! I would switch Dano and Armia probably.

That's probably fair. My reasoning is that Dano has more scoring potential & thus should play with better offensive players than Burmi & Lowry. Armia I would rather play on a fourth line that can take D-zone starts.

 

[truck]

It's a toss up. Dano is grittier and a good net front guy which would be good with petan and Perrault, but Armia is big and maybe a better skater and better defensively.

Dano has produced shots and points at a top 6 rate - he's also done mighty fine by possession numbers.

Seeing these across different teams in different seasons makes me believe - even if the total sample remains small.

 

[voyageur]

If I could formulate a lineup based on suggestions of others and aspirations of my own it would begin with trading Burmi. I think he has the most value to get us the return of a quality LHD. After watching the Grand Rapids Griffiths i still like Xavier Ouellet to be a LHD to push Stuart to the PB, or should Morrissey make the jump (which we needn't rush, but develop) to the trade front.

I would draft Laine, then a defenseman with our 2nd pick, maybe moving up (to Detroit's spot).

I am hoping for a 4 line team out of TC. Each able to score, all good defensively, with a vet on each.

Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Armia (Armia is a very good passer, with two finishers, two good skating Finns)
Perrault-Lowry-Dano
Connor-Copp-Stafford

Enstrom-Trouba
Chiarot-Buff (call me crazy but i think having nearly 500lbs of hard hitting good skating d is an asset)
Morrissey/Ouellet-Myers

Stuart/Ouellet, Postma, Thorburn, Lipon

Like it or not our division is still rough and tumble and the job of the vets, and a spark plug like Lipon is to take the goons off the ice, preventing them from dictating a game. Thorburn in particular has been valuable in this respect. All of them are capable of playing, and with proper usage provide us with strength in our soldiers.

I think Lowry has a legitimate shot at being a 3C. He is tough, can physically dominate. Having his utility to play against guys like Kesler, or Getzlaf. He can also play a strong 4th line grinder momentum shifting game. We have the ability with Copp being on an ELC to move him down to the Moose and move a player like Petan or Perrault into the middle for a different look.


Helleybuck
Pavelec

For the Moose:

DeLeo-Petan-Kosmachuk
Lemieux-Albert-Lodge
Tanev-F.A.-Peluso/Fronk
Blomqvist-Olsen-Brassard

Morrissey/?-Kichton
Harrison-Kostalek
Melchiori-Nogier

Hutch
Comrie

I'd like to see Harrison brought back on a two-way. I think his relationship with Maurice, and his ability to communicate well (being a father of four), makes him a good option as a future coach for the Moose.


The youth push, plus free agency for vets should inspire healthy internal competition and success.

 

[Daximus]

I honestly have no idea what opening night lineups will look like but this will be the most exciting Jets training camp I've ever witnessed.
We have 2 incredibly good goalscorers making their TC debut and a whole slew of youngsters and rookies looking to make their mark among 2 very exciting young netminders and then there are the grizzled veterans. No ones job should be safe. But of course Pmo has his favourites so that makes it even harder to say.
We should see our best 2.0 opening night lineup next fall. So much to look forward to in the next few months in Jetland.

 

[JetsFan815]

Build a wall around Stuart, Thorburn and Pavelec #MakeTheJetsGreatAgain

 

[kyle o connor]

Am I the only one that thinks we should start Connor in the A for a month or two? Make him earn it. Scoreburn has to play somewhere (unfortunately)

 

[kunekune]

I don't see many people breaking up Ehlers-Scheifle-Wheeler, but I think you might want to. Between Ehlers, Connor, and Laine, you have 3 LW for 2 top 6 roles. So, you have to swap Ehlers to RW, which means ESW is no more. You roll:

1A: Laine-Scheifle-Ehlers
1B: Connor-Little-Wheeler

That looks really deadly to me. 1B gets shutdown assignments against the other team's top line while 1A lights the lamps. This also prevents having two rookies on one line. 1A is really young, but 55 is a vet already, and 27 is coming into year 2 a far better, more confident player. He could score 30 goals this year. 29 (assuming Laine keeps it) could score 30, too. Hell, so could 55. Damn, that might be an over-concentration of snipers in 1A, but damned if I don't want to see it!

As for the bottom 6 or D pairs, I don't have a clue, other than that I want to Stu captain of the Moose and Thorburn wearing an A with him. There are a ton of players on that bubble, it should be a fun camp. I hope we can get Morrissey and Petan in the lineup, and that we can flip Stafford for something useful.

Oh, and 26 wears a C, and we give A patches to 55 and 8. 33 should wear a letter too, but refuses. Everyone acts like he has one anyway.

I like the idea of this as a long-term plan. Both rookies will have some growing pains but they should be fully adjusted to NHL speed in the later part of the season. 1A could be one of the most deadliest attacking trios in the NHL a year from now.

It will be interesting to see how Jets are going to play pp. Laines spot in PP is left defender. He works as a hybrid playmaker and shooter. Should get 1st line pp minutes from the first game. It's good that Jets have 2 capable defenders to man the blueline alone in pp.

 

[surixon]

I like the idea of this as a long-term plan. Both rookies will have some growing pains but they should be fully adjusted to NHL speed in the later part of the season. 1A could be one of the most deadliest attacking trios in the NHL a year from now.

It will be interesting to see how Jets are going to play pp. Laines spot in PP is left defender. He works as a hybrid playmaker and shooter. Should get 1st line pp minutes from the first game. It's good that Jets have 2 capable defenders to man the blueline alone in pp.

I would like to try a 2nd unit of:

Morrissey and Laine on the point with Conner in the high slot with Perrault on the half board and Little down low.

Little


Conner Perrault



Laine Morrissey

 

[CaptainChef]

Am I the only one that thinks we should start Connor in the A for a month or two? Make him earn it. Scoreburn has to play somewhere (unfortunately)

I indicated this a few days ago & surprisingly had little opposition. Depends on what happens in TC (who shines & who looks tenuous), but since we will now have Laine (in all likelihood anyway), I think we can afford to start Connor & Petan in the AHL if they don't shine in TC.

Make them earn their way up if need be -- we'll have a ton of foot soldiers & talent (plus some thugs I'm sure) duking it out & finding out where they fit. They'll be some surprises out of TC & I would not consider Connor starting with the Moose a huge surprise.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Am I the only one that thinks we should start Connor in the A for a month or two? Make him earn it. Scoreburn has to play somewhere (unfortunately)

I think he should earn it. But why would you pencil him in the AHL before even one day of TC? I think it's a bit too early to say. My inclination is he's good enough to earn a roster spot out of TC, will he be able to keep it once the pace ramps up around Haloween?

 

[Coach G]

My thoughts on the roster:

...
Moose roster (for fun):

Lemieux-Copp-Lipon
Tanev-DeLeo-Kosmachuk
Albert-DeSalvo-Spacek
Blomqvist-Olsen-Brassard
Kramer-Fronk

Stuart-Kichton
Melchiori-Kostalek
Stoykewych-Nogier
Harstad
help

Comrie
Pavelec?/???

No real objection to your Jets lineup. A couple of nits to pick, so to speak, with the Moose projection:
1. Spacek is eligible for the A, yes, but I think they leave him in Red Deer.
2. I don't think Nogier gets a contract offer at all. Maybe ECHL.
AHL free agents (dime-a-dozen) in both spots.

 

[csk]

No real objection to your Jets lineup. A couple of nits to pick, so to speak, with the Moose projection:
1. Spacek is eligible for the A, yes, but I think they leave him in Red Deer.
2. I don't think Nogier gets a contract offer at all. Maybe ECHL.
AHL free agents (dime-a-dozen) in both spots.

You're not wrong about any of that, I put Spacek in because I want him to be, not because I think he will.
Nogier I put in just to fill the spot (without MacWilliam)

If you want a lineup without Spacek, move Brassard into his spot and insert Lodge

 

[jetsfaneh]

If I could formulate a lineup based on suggestions of others and aspirations of my own it would begin with trading Burmi. I think he has the most value to get us the return of a quality LHD. After watching the Grand Rapids Griffiths i still like Xavier Ouellet to be a LHD to push Stuart to the PB, or should Morrissey make the jump (which we needn't rush, but develop) to the trade front.

I would draft Laine, then a defenseman with our 2nd pick, maybe moving up (to Detroit's spot).

I am hoping for a 4 line team out of TC. Each able to score, all good defensively, with a vet on each.

Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Armia (Armia is a very good passer, with two finishers, two good skating Finns)
Perrault-Lowry-Dano
Connor-Copp-Stafford

Enstrom-Trouba
Chiarot-Buff (call me crazy but i think having nearly 500lbs of hard hitting good skating d is an asset)
Morrissey/Ouellet-Myers

Stuart/Ouellet, Postma, Thorburn, Lipon

Like it or not our division is still rough and tumble and the job of the vets, and a spark plug like Lipon is to take the goons off the ice, preventing them from dictating a game. Thorburn in particular has been valuable in this respect. All of them are capable of playing, and with proper usage provide us with strength in our soldiers.

I think Lowry has a legitimate shot at being a 3C. He is tough, can physically dominate. Having his utility to play against guys like Kesler, or Getzlaf. He can also play a strong 4th line grinder momentum shifting game. We have the ability with Copp being on an ELC to move him down to the Moose and move a player like Petan or Perrault into the middle for a different look.


Helleybuck
Pavelec

For the Moose:

DeLeo-Petan-Kosmachuk
Lemieux-Albert-Lodge
Tanev-F.A.-Peluso/Fronk
Blomqvist-Olsen-Brassard

Morrissey/?-Kichton
Harrison-Kostalek
Melchiori-Nogier

Hutch
Comrie

I'd like to see Harrison brought back on a two-way. I think his relationship with Maurice, and his ability to communicate well (being a father of four), makes him a good option as a future coach for the Moose.


The youth push, plus free agency for vets should inspire healthy internal competition and success.

Jansen Harkins. Our second round pick from last year. Finished the year with the Moose. He needs to be penciled in.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Jansen Harkins. Our second round pick from last year. Finished the year with the Moose. He needs to be penciled in.

Almost 100% sure Harkins goes back for another year in Prince George

 

[Bwadlay]

I indicated this a few days ago & surprisingly had little opposition. Depends on what happens in TC (who shines & who looks tenuous), but since we will now have Laine (in all likelihood anyway), I think we can afford to start Connor & Petan in the AHL if they don't shine in TC.

Make them earn their way up if need be -- we'll have a ton of foot soldiers & talent (plus some thugs I'm sure) duking it out & finding out where they fit. They'll be some surprises out of TC & I would not consider Connor starting with the Moose a huge surprise.

Do you think that Conner signed with the Jets just to play for the Moose?
I think he's guaranteed a spot. He'll have to play himself off the main club.

 

[mcpw]

Jansen Harkins. Our second round pick from last year. Finished the year with the Moose. He needs to be penciled in.

He can't play in the AHL.

 

[castle]

If I could formulate a lineup based on suggestions of others and aspirations of my own it would begin with trading Burmi. I think he has the most value to get us the return of a quality LHD. After watching the Grand Rapids Griffiths i still like Xavier Ouellet to be a LHD to push Stuart to the PB, or should Morrissey make the jump (which we needn't rush, but develop) to the trade front.

I would draft Laine, then a defenseman with our 2nd pick, maybe moving up (to Detroit's spot).

I am hoping for a 4 line team out of TC. Each able to score, all good defensively, with a vet on each.

Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Armia (Armia is a very good passer, with two finishers, two good skating Finns)
Perrault-Lowry-Dano
Connor-Copp-Stafford

Enstrom-Trouba
Chiarot-Buff (call me crazy but i think having nearly 500lbs of hard hitting good skating d is an asset)
Morrissey/Ouellet-Myers

Stuart/Ouellet, Postma, Thorburn, Lipon

Like it or not our division is still rough and tumble and the job of the vets, and a spark plug like Lipon is to take the goons off the ice, preventing them from dictating a game. Thorburn in particular has been valuable in this respect. All of them are capable of playing, and with proper usage provide us with strength in our soldiers.

I think Lowry has a legitimate shot at being a 3C. He is tough, can physically dominate. Having his utility to play against guys like Kesler, or Getzlaf. He can also play a strong 4th line grinder momentum shifting game. We have the ability with Copp being on an ELC to move him down to the Moose and move a player like Petan or Perrault into the middle for a different look.


Helleybuck
Pavelec

For the Moose:

DeLeo-Petan-Kosmachuk
Lemieux-Albert-Lodge
Tanev-F.A.-Peluso/Fronk
Blomqvist-Olsen-Brassard

Morrissey/?-Kichton
Harrison-Kostalek
Melchiori-Nogier

Hutch
Comrie

I'd like to see Harrison brought back on a two-way. I think his relationship with Maurice, and his ability to communicate well (being a father of four), makes him a good option as a future coach for the Moose.


The youth push, plus free agency for vets should inspire healthy internal competition and success.

wasn't Harrison traded? I don't see him coming back. I like Copp better as a 4th line C at this point than Lowry, but either would do I guess

 

[JustGivingEr]

No chance Connor is playing on the fourth line or with the Moose to start the year

 

[jetsfaneh]

He can't play in the AHL.

But he could at the end of last year?

 

[CaptainChef]

No chance Connor is playing on the fourth line or with the Moose to start the year

Until a few days ago I would have agreed with that. Now, Connor may have to prove he belongs in TC (but I'm sure he will be given every chance to do that). Petan on the other hand will have to prove he belongs and he may have to do that playing with 4th-liners.

 

[Aavco Cup]

But he could at the end of last year?

Only once his team was eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[Dayofthedogs]

Jets
Laine/55/Wheeler
Connor/Little/Ehlers
Petan/MP/Dano
Lowry/Burmi/Armia

Moose
Lemieux/Deleo/Lipon
Tanev/Copp/Kossy
Blah/blah/blah
Blah/blah/blah

Stafford gets moved for a 2nd or 3rd at the draft.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

No chance Connor is playing on the fourth line or with the Moose to start the year

I agree with the 1 st half of your statement. No Chance he is playing on the 4 th line.
Because...... We will not play him on the 4 th line ....... It may be the best for his development to play 1 st line on the Moose.

Some people are saying " Connor did not sign with the Jets to play on the Moose" ...... What other choice did he have? He could wait 4 years in college and become a UFA, or sign and if he's good enough be on the Jets. Just like Drouin if he falters, he will find himself in the AHL. The Jets are not going to guarantee a NHL spot to a 19 year old who they control his NHL rights for 3 more years.

I think Connor is good enough to crack the Jets line- up next year. I also think some transition time in the AHL could be beneficial. AHL was huge for Spezza during the 2003 lockout.

 

[Skiffer55]

I'd like to see Harrison brought back on a two-way. I think his relationship with Maurice, and his ability to communicate well (being a father of four), makes him a good option as a future coach for the Moose.


The youth push, plus free agency for vets should inspire healthy internal competition and success.

Pretty sure someone who covers the Moose (Patrick Williams?) said Harrison had a **** attitude when he got sent down and wasn't a great mentor/vet.