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WJC: 2016 — Canada Roster Talk (Part II)

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Crouse - Strome - Marner
Beauvillier - Point - Konecny
Perlini - Barzal - Watson
Dubios - Quenneville - Merkley
Gauthier

Fleury - Hicketts
Sanheim - McKeown
Dermott - Juulsen
Chychrun

Blackwood
McDonald

Dal Colle is really going to have to impress in camp and earn himself a spot imo. The fight for the D is going to be crazy. I didn't want to leave off Chabot but here we are. It's gonna be a dogfight
 
In my opinion this team could dominate the same way the last year's team did. Or even more. This team is loaded with a lot of offensive talent and with an incredibly strong defensive group in my opinion. Goaltending should be solid.


Hopefully Dal Colle has a good camp and a good tournament, we could use that :nod: I like the other poster's idea of having him with Strome and Marner. Or I could see him with Point.


This is my guess, a mix of what I would want and what I see HC will choose:

OFFENCE
Dal Colle - Point - Konecny
Crouse - Strome - Marner
Beauvillier - Barzal - Hawryluk/J.Gauthier
Perlini - Quennevillie - Watson
J.Gauthier/Hawryluk

Cuts: Chartier, Dubois, Merkley, Stephens

DEFENSE:
Sanheim - Hicketts
Fleury - Juulsen
Walman - Chabot
Hickey

Cuts: McKeown, Dermott, Chychrun, Dunn

Some extremely tough decisions for me. I think Hickey will get a strong look, and if Walman is one of the best in the camp, he's in. In my opinion if Hockey Canada was unsure about him, they wouldn't even invite him. But since they have, he has a good shot at making the roster. I think that from the group of Juulsen, Chabot, McKeown, Chychrun, and Dermott, only two players make it. Three at best.

Up front, the camp can change everything really. Merkley, Dal Colle, Dubois, or Stephens might not be on many rosters here, but they are very, very good, skilled players. Can't go wrong really with them.
 
Dal Colle - Strome - Marner
Beauvillier - Point (C) - Konecny
Perlini - Barzal - Watson
Crouse (A) - Dubois - Gauthier
Stephans

Fleury - Hicketts (A)
Sanhiem - Mckeown
Dermott - Juulsen
Chychrun

Blackwood - Mcdonald

* Defense should be very competitive this year as i do not really see anyone as an absolute lock besides maybe Hickkets.
* Hard putting Crouse on the 4th line as he is a returning player but i think the 4th line could be really effective similar to last years big fourth line but there is more skill and speed there this year with Gauthier and Dubois.
* Blackwood will most likely get the starting job, been extremely impressed with him this year so far.
* slotted Stephans in as the 13th foward as he can be used in all situations and should be able to fit nicely on any of the 4 lines when needed.

Really like the look of the team this year. While there is only 3 available returning players so far the team is very deep with skill and speed. All 30 players invited to camp this year have a very realistic shot of making the team as it is very wide open this year. Should be very exciting to follow over the next few weeks and cant wait till boxing day.
 
JackSlater said:
They played together in the summer, and Marner looked pretty good while Strome didn't impress. Hockey Canada seems to think that they work well together, but I don't see it at this point. They didn't look great together in the camp, they didn't play minor hockey together. They played in the U17 together and put up a lot of points, but I don't think it had anything to do with chemistry.

As far as how Strome plays, I'm fine with it. This isn't figure skating, so I'm glad to have Strome's tangible results. It's just mystifying. If he seems to float around and do nothing for Canada but gets results, then I will be happy.
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Yeah, Hockey Canada does seem to have it in their head that these two guys have some chemistry together and most mock rosters I have seen from the TSN crew have them playing on the same line together. I think, at least theoretically, a line with those two and, say, Crouse would work pretty well as all three bring different skillsets to the table, but would also be complementary to each other. Crouse would obviously provide the size, physicality and defensive presence, but would also complement Strome down low in the cycle game. Crouse is not a sniper, but does have a really good shot and can hold his own offensively with Strome and Marner. Marner would be the primary puck carrier and playmaker, but can also play it tight in the offensive zone. Strome has the rocket of a shot and great patience puck handling skills, so I guess in theory (and on paper) they complement each other. The key will be getting them enough reps during the camp to allow them to develop chemistry as a trio.

JackSlater said:
Well cupcake it's pretty sad that my words regarding Walman hurt you so. I don't care what his production is - I want Canadian players who are loyal to team Canada. Walman is not, and thus his production is irrelevant. I would much rather lose with Canadian players who want to represent Canada than win with a Canadian who wants to represent USA. It's desperate and pathetic to chase after a player who turned down his own country to try and play for another.

Walman is nothing more than a mercenary at this point. I like to think that the players who wear the Canadian jersey actually want to play for Canada more than they do the opposition. When Walman plays USA, we literally know that he actually wants to play for the other team. How anyone could possibly support picking a player like that is beyond me.
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You know, at first I was willing to simply chalk this up to a young, possibly immature teenager who's looking out for his best interests (visibility at the WJHCs, and all that entails > no visibility at the WJHCs), but having thought about it a little bit I wouldn't have invited him to camp either. Its perhaps besides the point but Walman isn't so good that he's an absolute lock to make the team, and there is the potential for his inclusion to disrupt the comraderie and chemistry within the locker room. Any athlete who played team sports can provide anecdotes of teammates who didn't fit in with the rest of the group (for whatever reason) and the locker room suffered for it. I would have to think that a player who originally didn't choose to represent his country out of (presumably) selfish intent, then decided to, would be met with a bit of animosity by his teammates. I know how I would react in such a situation.
 
LordandSavior said:
Michael Dal Colle - Dylan Strome - Mitch Marner
Lawson Crouse - Braydon Point - Travis Konecny
Anthony Beauvillier - Mat Barzal - Julien Gauthier
Pierre-Luc Dubois - Joel Quenneville - Jayce Hawrlyuk
Spencer Watson

Virtanen would be great to have in Gauthier's place with Barzal and Beauvillier.

Travis Sanheim - Joe Hicketts
Haydn Fleury - Roland McKeown
Thomas Chabot - Noah Juulsen
Brandon Hickey
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Don't know if Chicago would be willing to loan him for the tournament tbh :laugh:
 
Crouse - Barzal - Marner
Hawryluk - Point - Watson
Beaullivier - Strome - Konecy
Dal Colle - Chartier - Gauthier
Perlini

Hicketts - Fleury
Dermott - Mckeowan
Sanheim - Juulsen
Chychrun

Blackwood
Mcdonald
 
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Canada4Gold said:
Crouse - Strome - Marner
Beauvillier - Point - Konecny
Perlini - Barzal - Watson
Dubios - Quenneville - Merkley
Gauthier

Fleury - Hicketts
Sanheim - McKeown
Dermott - Juulsen
Chychrun

Blackwood
McDonald

Dal Colle is really going to have to impress in camp and earn himself a spot imo. The fight for the D is going to be crazy. I didn't want to leave off Chabot but here we are. It's gonna be a dogfight
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Crouse - Point- Marner
Beauvillier - Barzal - Konecny
Perlini - Strome - Merkley
Dubios - Quenneville - Watson
Gauthier

Might as well get the AZ prospects working on chemistry now :)
 
If Walman were to make the Canadian team and play, would he be ineligible to play for the US going forward? Not saying that he will ever be good enough to play for the US internationally, just curious.
 
Crouse-Strome-Marner
Dal Colle-Point-Konecny
Beauvillier-Barzal-Watson
Perlini-Quenneville-Hawryluk
Gauthier

Hicketts-McKeown
Fleury-Sanheim
Dermott-Chabot
Juulsen

Blackwood
McDonald
 
Llewzaher said:
Crouse - Point- Marner
Beauvillier - Barzal - Konecny
Perlini - Strome - Merkley
Dubios - Quenneville - Watson
Gauthier

Might as well get the AZ prospects working on chemistry now :)
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I like this idea. HC should help the Isles and make the top line: Dal Colle - Barzal - Beauvillier
 
FLYguy3911 said:
For the foreseeable future? Yes.
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Forever actually.

New rules say once you have represented a country at a IIHF event - U-18, WJC, World Champs, Olympics - you are stuck with that country.

So Walman could go to Canadas camp, even play and Exo, and if he gets cut, next year he could hypothetically play for the USA at a World Championship, as he would meet the 2 year residency requirement.

If he makes Canada, he is a Canadian for IIHF purposes forever
 
leafsfuture said:
Forever actually.

New rules say once you have represented a country at a IIHF event - U-18, WJC, World Champs, Olympics - you are stuck with that country.

So Walman could go to Canadas camp, even play and Exo, and if he gets cut, next year he could hypothetically play for the USA at a World Championship, as he would meet the 2 year residency requirement.

If he makes Canada, he is a Canadian for IIHF purposes forever
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Not true.

Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:

- He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
- He has participated for at least four consecutive years (1460 days) in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
- He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national association of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.
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Just a daydream here, but would the Oilers ever allow McDavid play in the tournament for a conditioning stint? Obviously they would prefer having him in the NHL or the AHL, but its a scenario that dawned on me today. Is there even a 5% chance of that ever happening?

I understand that RNH had different circumstances.
 
Stamkos Intolerant said:
Just a daydream here, but would the Oilers ever allow McDavid play in the tournament for a conditioning stint? Obviously they would prefer having him in the NHL or the AHL, but its a scenario that dawned on me today. Is there even a 5% chance of that ever happening?

I understand that RNH had different circumstances.
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0% chance.

but you can hope for next year. He will be eligible to play in next year's tournament. but 0% chance there as well.
 
Stamkos Intolerant said:
Just a daydream here, but would the Oilers ever allow McDavid play in the tournament for a conditioning stint? Obviously they would prefer having him in the NHL or the AHL, but its a scenario that dawned on me today. Is there even a 5% chance of that ever happening?

I understand that RNH had different circumstances.
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I mentioned that when he first got hurt but he's not going to be back in time for that anyway. Mid January is the estimate isn't it?
 
Stamkos Intolerant said:
Just a daydream here, but would the Oilers ever allow McDavid play in the tournament for a conditioning stint? Obviously they would prefer having him in the NHL or the AHL, but its a scenario that dawned on me today. Is there even a 5% chance of that ever happening?

I understand that RNH had different circumstances.
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No chance. McDavid is the most valuable asset in the NHL. The Oilers would be insane to allow him to play in a tournament for a team other than the Oilers and possibly aggravate his injury (or pick up a worse one).
 
Just saying ;)

Defenceman of the Month:
November - Travis Dermott (Erie Otters)
 
Does anybody know who has the upper hand going into camp for the starting job in net? I'm guessing Blackwood considering how well he's played in the OHL, summer camp, and super series?...
 
leafsfuture said:
hmm my bad.

Is this new?
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It's been around a while as far as I know, there have been some players over the years that have "jumped ship" so to speak.

I believe Matt Dominchelli (sp? holy hell that's a hard name to guess at :laugh: ) now plays for a European country despite playing for Canada earlier on in his career. Switzerland I think...?

Didn't Petr Nedved also play for Canada in 1998 despite playing for the Czechs early on in his career?
 
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