Given our current position, I hope we can get a chance to pick either D. Strome or Zacha. Although Mitch Marner would be a great pick as well, but we do need some size down the middle. We already have Turris and Pageau who are not very big, but I was really impressed with Marner's skills the last time I saw him on TV. I do trust our scouts to take the best player this time, since it is so strong.
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Kreider was best known for his pure speed when drafted and his projections wasn't necessarily that of a power forward. I don't believe many projected he would be a 230 point guy when all was said and done.
That said, notwithstanding the fact Crouse will never have Krieder's speed, they might end up as somewhat similar players. Shoot first guys you want with a playmaker. Crouse is tougher though. Kreider goes to the front of the net and causes problems there with his frame, but Crouse bring more of an edge. Kreider might have had slightly higher upside given his speed, but Crouse is a much safer bet. Kreider was a bit of a wildcard getting drafted out of high school.
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I wouldn't say that is a "Crazy" amount of talent. Those players have been drafted over 5 years, so most teams have a group that good and deep when considering half a decade of drafts. And half those forwards might be 3rd liners, while Ceci and Cowen are a solid duo, but not necessarily going to be allstars. It's a really solid young core, but not exactly dynamic or elite.
It is a fair point though, that our AHL affiliate has considerably less talent right now, and with a few of our recent picks bypassing the AHL for the most part it could be ugly in Bingo for a while if Claessen, Prince and Puempel graduate. We'll have a few guys (Paul, Wikstrand, Harper and Englund perhaps) heading there for a few years, but that is not very much (a few other depth picks will undoubtedly get looks of course). Especially at forward.
I like our core, but still feel we are a really elite young forward away being a legitimate contender in a few years. And that's only if the current young group continues to progress significantly.
Hard to say. I find Murray's trend is to draft USHL/NTDP players in later rounds.
Just looking back quickly, the only player out of the USHL that he has drafted in first round since '95 was Jim O'Brien, and he technically didn't have his own scouts then.
For those looking for more info on Crouse, and his style, you can read this:
(I swear I didn't write it)
http://thehockeywriters.com/ottawa-senators-draft-preview-lawson-crouse/
"As per Kristina Rutherford, McFarland says of Lawson Crouse:
He’s the kind of role model we want to represent not only our team and our league, but the game of hockey. He’s someone all the younger guys on the team—and even some older guys—look up to.
High praise for the talented young winger. Once he cracks an NHL roster, Lawson Crouse is poised to add offense, toughness and leadership.
But, do the Ottawa Senators have need for a “Sherrif�"
(I swear I didn't write it)
http://thehockeywriters.com/ottawa-senators-draft-preview-lawson-crouse/
"As per Kristina Rutherford, McFarland says of Lawson Crouse:
He’s the kind of role model we want to represent not only our team and our league, but the game of hockey. He’s someone all the younger guys on the team—and even some older guys—look up to.
High praise for the talented young winger. Once he cracks an NHL roster, Lawson Crouse is poised to add offense, toughness and leadership.
But, do the Ottawa Senators have need for a “Sherrif�"
What we really need is one of the best players in the draft. That's really all there is to say.
The people that go into drafts with size prejudice miss the small guy who had all the tools to be a scorer in the league and they take the big guy without enough smarts to make it anywhere beyond a 4th line.
If the first thing you look at is height, youre setting yourself up for issues.
If the first thing you look at is height, youre setting yourself up for issues.
You're either gonna be deep in one or the other, or none at all.
It's only because this is a place of prospect porn that there is actually a distinction between young NHL talent and young NHL prospect.
It kinda goes without saying that when you graduate 6-7 players in 1 or 2 years the prospect cupboard will need replenishing. And it goes without saying a team looks to replinish at the drAft every year regardless of how full or bare it is.
Our team will always be in desperate need of new quality prospects. So will others.
He is the type of guy that every fan will love to have, that's for sure.
But it's a tough one. The Sens opted for Lazar over Mantha. Mantha will likely end up being the better goal scorer, but not necessarily the more valuable player. Both teams are likely happy with their pick. At the NHL level, if you had to pick a player, do you take Ryan Callahan or James Neal? There is no easy answer, as one wears a letter and plays on a scoring line, while the other is the superior goal scorer who can fit in on a top line beside an elite playmaker, while making your PP better.
Our scouts go through the same thing at the draft and might be having that exact type of debate iin pre-draft meetings when they project guys like Marner, Crouse, Rantanen, Barzal and Zacha all on the board when we pick. Each scout might have their favorite flavour.
This. God I hope we are in a position to take him, we just missed out on Ryan wanted to draft that guy too.
Yeah agreed with this. The guy could play pitcher for all I care. If he comes in here and makes a difference then great.
Obviously there are be ideal scenarios but whether it be crouse, marner, kylington (who in strongly against) then so be it.
If this team truly believes in Turris and zibanejad in the top six then I'm fine with crouse. Even Zacha is playing left wing.
Although the more I see marner the more I like him. We need someone marketable. Someone to put people in the seats. If we draft a kid like marner it's "led OHL on scoring. Check out this highlight tape ". Crouse is big and fast (and also skilled) but right now the image hat pops into the average Sens fans head when you say big and fast is Colin greening. I suppose kylington can be marketed as the next karlsson. But half of the fanbase will love that. And the other half will go "no again". I realize the game isn't all about marketing but just a different perspective.
This was my main view with tanking. Mcdavid is nice. But he would work wonders for this organization. Either way too late for that
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This could just be a case if them taking their best player available.
I'm taking into consideration where I think we will draft. And some recent things I have read about Connor. He's ranked at 15 ( I believe) but all reports indicate he has elite offensive tools and the ability to dominate. Center. Left handed too.
It's also under the assumption we finish outside he top ten and marner crouse werenski and kylington are gone. And we don't take provorov.
Fair enough.
I wasn't big on Konecny, based on what I had seen earlier in the season. (I didn't watch much junior last year, with the lack of 1st Rd Pick)
But he seems to be getting back to the player he was last season (from what's been said about him last year).
I wouldn't gate taking him if none of the big names fall out of the top 10.
I personally don't see Ottawa drafting outside the top 10, but all it would take is one good winning streak to change that.
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http://ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/nhl/senators-extra/phillips-neil-methot-all-could-be-dealt-murray-says
Very reassuring to hear all of this as I was a bit worried the 1st rounder might be in play. I'm wondering if Murray saying "Our need will be satisfied" means they will pick based off need or BPA?
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Could be that.
Could also be that we need help both at F and D, so regardless of who we pick, it fills a need.
I'm a fan of BPA, so hopefully we go that route. Whoever we draft, they won't be in the lineup next year barring some unusual circumstances, so drafting for need doesn't seem prudent... lots can happen in the 2-3 years it usually takes for players to graduate to the NHL out of Junior/AHL hockey. By the time the guy you drafted is ready, that hole might have been filled already.
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Imaging McDavid on the receiving end of Karlsson receptions and counter rushes makes me want to change my pants at the very notion of the idea...
Argh, how marvelous would that be.. I hope somehow the draft becomes rigged and we get McDavid as the hype man on a Canadian team with a superstar D who bring in revenue like no tomorrow on a road to a dynasty team.
Please make it happen.
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Definitely not on the top of the priority list. We have Lehner and Andy locked up for the foreseeable future.
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I know but they take time and most bust. I actually only really started thinking about it after Murray's comments the other day. From what they said I think it'll happen.
Never draft goalies high.
In fact don't draft goalies at all. Plenty of goalies available every year whether its through free agency or trade. No need to waste a draft pick on a guy who (fingers crossed) will turn into a capable player at his position 5-7 years down the road.
In fact don't draft goalies at all. Plenty of goalies available every year whether its through free agency or trade. No need to waste a draft pick on a guy who (fingers crossed) will turn into a capable player at his position 5-7 years down the road.
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