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Kylington is insanely talented. Elite skating and elite offensive skills. Reminds me so much of our Erik K.
A long term d corpse of
Cowen/Methot - Karlsson
Kylington- Ceci
would be one of the best in the league.
I think Werenski upside is something like Shattenkirk , while Kylington can turn into a elite talent.
I couldn't believe IT but now I do and this team is sub par at best, it looks like quite a few teams will be passing us in the standings, we could be drafting 5th in a matter of time if we keep playing like this cause I see both Columbus and Philly passing us shortly maybe even New Jersey
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2nd round Chlapik!
I'm guessing one of our 2nd's will be gone by the end of the month in a Hemsky style rental move.
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Ok, I'll say it a different way.
Big kids tend to use their size advantage for several years in bantam and up, with less focus on developing their skill. (Because hey, it's easier to outpower another small kid and be big than to spend a bazillion hours working on those skills.) As a result, the big kids tend to look really good in amateur competition.
Problem is when these guys hit the pro levels. Yes, he'll still be big and strong, but he won't be as physically dominating most of the competition around him like he does now. That's when you start to notice the lack of development in the skill areas of the game. And that's where the big guys tend to fail badly, because you can't just hit the gym and speed-train several years of missed skill development.
I didn't see any dangles or fancy moves in any of the WJC games (either by instruction or his skill level isn't there, I don't know). That's why I wonder about the kid. If he wants to be known as a skill guy, he has to show skills (and points) on a consistent basis.
That's why I say, we're better off waiting until the end of the season to see his entire body of work before anointing him the next great power forward.
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Definitely sounds like one to keep an eye on.
The NHL is moving to a faster, more skilled game the last few years. If we want to compete, we desperately need guys who can get the most out of those feet.
This may sound far-fetched, but I actually prefer the likes of Werensky and Provorov, to either Hanifin or Kylington.
While the latter two are bigger framed and more "protypical" #1 d-men, Werensky and Provorov both strike me as more dynamic with higher end skills. And both are just as, if not a bit more, meaner and more physical than the other two. But above all else, they are also more productive offensively, which is an essential ingredient for any two-way top 4 guy when he arrives in the NHL.
In this day and age, the more elite defenceman are the guys with the really top end puck handling, skating, lateral movement and evasiveness. The likes of Karlsson, Subban, Keith, Letang and even the likes of Shattenkirk and Josi etc.
Meanwhile, the more "protypical" large defenceman like J-Bo, Bogosian, Adam Larsson, Cowen, Gudbrandson are all still really valuable defencemen, but they are not in the same class as the Norris more elite puck handlers above. All those guys were lottery picks but none are really a top pairing d-man (J-Bo certainly was once).
Yes, there are guys like Hedman who are the complete package, but there are a lot more Coburn's, Larsson's. Gudbranson's and Cowen's from the lottery, than Hedman's.
While the latter two are bigger framed and more "protypical" #1 d-men, Werensky and Provorov both strike me as more dynamic with higher end skills. And both are just as, if not a bit more, meaner and more physical than the other two. But above all else, they are also more productive offensively, which is an essential ingredient for any two-way top 4 guy when he arrives in the NHL.
In this day and age, the more elite defenceman are the guys with the really top end puck handling, skating, lateral movement and evasiveness. The likes of Karlsson, Subban, Keith, Letang and even the likes of Shattenkirk and Josi etc.
Meanwhile, the more "protypical" large defenceman like J-Bo, Bogosian, Adam Larsson, Cowen, Gudbrandson are all still really valuable defencemen, but they are not in the same class as the Norris more elite puck handlers above. All those guys were lottery picks but none are really a top pairing d-man (J-Bo certainly was once).
Yes, there are guys like Hedman who are the complete package, but there are a lot more Coburn's, Larsson's. Gudbranson's and Cowen's from the lottery, than Hedman's.
Werenski and kylington are much more similar than kylington and hanifin. Hanifin is the all round great d man. Kylington has drawn a lt of comparisons to karlsson.
If we have the choice. It has to be hanifin. We can't have another offense first d man logging big minutes who is mistake prone defensively. Not really a knock to karlsson but I think a defence can only have one karlsson.
Welcome. We are just misunderstood. We are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for this team.
Tank watch:
We are currently picking 8th overall. If CBJ wins tonight vs the Leafs we'll be at 7th!
We are currently picking 8th overall. If CBJ wins tonight vs the Leafs we'll be at 7th!
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Agreed. The league is changing.
It's about speed, skill, and puck possession and distribution.
I haven't seen any of the defense prospects available this year so I can't judge any of the guys specifically, but we can't let ourselves get too enamored with pure size. Skill has to be worth more when evaluating a kid.
For those who don't know.. Erie vs. London is on Sportsnet right now. Good chance to watch McDavid/Strome/Marner.
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I wouldn't mind any of Marner/Strome/Kylington/Provorov/Werenski if we don't get one of the big three.
That means we need a top 8 pick. Not too hard to accomplish.
That means we need a top 8 pick. Not too hard to accomplish.
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yeah me too probably mcdavid eichel marner first 3 picks but strome could go 4. i think needs will play a role this year 3-6.
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Nah, we're going to just miss out on the last wildcard spot on the last days of the season. A month later when they have the draft lotto, Ottawa wins first overall. That's how it's going to work.
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