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Oilin Toronto

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I think he would be an exceptional 3rd line centre for us in a couple of years. Would easily be able to fill as a second line centre if RNH or McDavid goes down.

I completely agree. I think a line of EK and LD, with LD playing wing (LD's play along the boards is fantastic) would be dynamic.
 

dustrock

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A lot better goalies than Blackwood.

I believe Samsonov is the best goalie available in this draft but there are a few goalies going under the radar.

Montembeault is a calm goalie in the Q, he has good reflexes, he's hard to beat low.

Felix Sandstrom from Sweden has gone unnoticed. I think he will be a steal for whichever team drafts him.

Nick McBride in Prince Albert is also decent.

RLR has Tomek at 22 over Samsonov at 23. Definitely the highest I've seen Tomek ranked but I'd love to pick him in the 3rd.
 

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for me if we have 16--we still go for the best D available

in theory up front

1) McJesus 18
2) Hall 23
3) Nuge 22
4) Eberle 25
5) Leon D 19
6) Yak 20
7) Poiliot 27
8) Lander 24
9) Bogdan Yakimov 19
10) Tyler Pitlick 21
11) Iiro Pakarinen 24
12) Anton Slepyshev 21
13) Jackson Houck 20
14) Kyle Platzer 20
15) Mitch Moroz 21
16) Jujhar Khaira 20
17) Travis Ewanyk 22

With only pouliot being over 25

then on D we have (in no real order)

1)Jordan Oesterle 22
2) Martin Gernat 22
3) David Musil 22
4) Oscar Klefbom 22
5) Dillon Simpson 22
6) Joey Laleggia 23
7) Martin Marincin 23
8) Brandon Davidson 25
9) Darnell Nurse 20
10) Justin Schultz 25

For me the draft is not about the current roster--but how the roster could look in 5 years--Nurse at 20 is our brightest star on D--but there are a lot of scrubs on that list who are 25 and under--If we draft the D at 16 and develop him properly---in 3 to 5 years time we could have a stud. We are thin on the blue line in the current situation and in the future

BPA for me in the first round every time. Trying to forecast what your team is going to look like in 3-5 years is the reason why the Oilers ended up with Pouliot rather than Parise IIRC. I have no issue with drafting by organizational need outside of the first round.

Then again I've posted on this board I'd like the Oilers to draft Samsonov with the 16th pick this year because of positional need so perhaps I'm a bit of a hypocrite.
 

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BPA for me in the first round every time. Trying to forecast what your team is going to look like in 3-5 years is the reason why the Oilers ended up with Pouliot rather than Parise IIRC. I have no issue with drafting by organizational need outside of the first round.

Then again I've posted on this board I'd like the Oilers to draft Samsonov with the 16th pick this year because of positional need so perhaps I'm a bit of a hypocrite.

I would love to get Samsonov, but Vladar would be an interesting pick as well, espececially if we can get him with one of our 2nd round picks.
 

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Roy as RHD factors in, absolutely.

But he's also been compared to Letang and a poor man's Doughty.

One of the better offensive d-men in the draft

Does anyone care that he prefers to play the left side despite being a RHD? That is a real rarity, there are a decent number of LHD who prefer the right hand side, but he's the only one I can think of who is the opposite way.
 

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Does anyone care that he prefers to play the left side despite being a RHD? That is a real rarity, there are a decent number of LHD who prefer the right hand side, but he's the only one I can think of who is the opposite way.

Every time I've seen him he's been on the right side.
 

Burnt Biscuits

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Every time I've seen him he's been on the right side.

I know I read a scouting report where it referenced it, but in this video of Jeremy Roy you can see him on the left side for the majority of the game. I don't get to watch a lot of Q games so I can't argue from first hand experience.

It's in French and the guy who uploaded was nice enough to mark off where he is in yellow.

 

Bryanbryoil

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I watched 7 minutes of that video and I must say that I hope that the same guys that have shat on Schultz aren't the same ones pumping Roy's tires. He's Schultz in the d-zone with less reach but more beef and a lot worse skating. He has some pluses to his game but he looks like a long term project player as he has a lot of warts in his game.
 

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Every time I've seen him he's been on the right side.

A lot of the games I watched he played left side actually with RHD Carl Neill as his partner being on the right side. I think 75% of the games I watched that was the case, but he seems to be able to play both sides pretty well.
 

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Oilers TV Mock Draft had Svechnikov at 16 over Barzal.. I like Svech at 16, but if Barzal is still available I think you take him. He was a consensus top 5 before the season and injuries are the main reason he's dropped.

Does anyone have the link to watch this
 

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I think we are crapping on Schultz because he's 25 and seems to be flatlining in his development... is defensively weak, isn't physical, doesn't really seem to exert a lot of effort out there and doesn't have a great shot on the PP other than the weak wrister which teams have learned is his only weapon.

With Roy... he's 18 and has a lot of potential and time to work out the weaknesses in his game... he looks like a solid offensive RHS dman and almost any 17/18 year old has flaws... if he didn't he'd be going top 3 instead of being a mid to late 1st round pick.
 

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I know I read a scouting report where it referenced it, but in this video of Jeremy Roy you can see him on the left side for the majority of the game. I don't get to watch a lot of Q games so I can't argue from first hand experience.

It's in French and the guy who uploaded was nice enough to mark off where he is in yellow.



Yeah that's not a great game of his, I'm not sure if he was coming back from injury in that game or it just happened but he is usually a lot quicker with his feet and decision making.
 

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Yeah that's not a great game of his, I'm not sure if he was coming back from injury in that game or it just happened but he is usually a lot quicker with his feet and decision making.

Two red flags I noticed: Slow first step. Stops moving his feet when he has the puck.
 

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BPA for me in the first round every time. Trying to forecast what your team is going to look like in 3-5 years is the reason why the Oilers ended up with Pouliot rather than Parise IIRC. I have no issue with drafting by organizational need outside of the first round.

Then again I've posted on this board I'd like the Oilers to draft Samsonov with the 16th pick this year because of positional need so perhaps I'm a bit of a hypocrite.

BPA every time. Picking for position is the reason when ended up with Musil over Jenner. If you feel Samsonov is the best player available at that spot, go ahead. Just don't reach and select him because he's the best goalie available.
 

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At 16 my top three would be Svechnikov, Konecny, then Samsonov.

I doubt Konecny will be there so it comes down to Svechnikov or Samsonov... I really would be happy with either but I personally would pick Svechnikov.

I wouldn't be dissapointed if we grab Zboril of Chabot, even if they are LHD.

The three guys I absolutely do not want at 16 are Roy, Bittner and Kylington.

BTW, I did a three round mock draft:

Take a look!!!

To summarize the Oilers picks:

1- Connor McDavid
16- Evgeni Svechnikov
33- Roope Hintz
57- Thomas Schemitch
79- Loik Levielle
86- Keegan Kolesar
 
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So Should The Oilers Trade Down?

it's an idea that has been talked about off and on and also in the Edmonton Journal. similar to what MacT did in 2013, when he traded the #37 pick to the LA Kings and #57 to the St. Louis Blues and got enough picks from both trades to get Yakimov, Slepyshev and Platzer so far, with possibly Aiden Muir down the road? it seemed to work pretty good, and with this draft being deep, a team with no 1st rounder may give up multiple picks for #16, or perhaps trade the #33 or #57 down for multiple picks.

though i know these picks are always targeted by fans wanting to trade them for established players, i get it, but that's not what i'm asking. i kind of like the idea of trading a pick or two down and getting more picks. if we don't trade some for established NHL players, do you think we should trade down for multiple picks?
 

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it's an idea that has been talked about off and on and also in the Edmonton Journal. similar to what MacT did in 2013, when he traded the #37 pick to the LA Kings and #57 to the St. Louis Blues and got enough picks from both trades to get Yakimov, Slepyshev and Platzer so far, with possibly Aiden Muir down the road? it seemed to work pretty good, and with this draft being deep, a team with no 1st rounder may give up multiple picks for #16, or perhaps trade the #33 or #57 down for multiple picks.

though i know these picks are always targeted by fans wanting to trade them for established players, i get it, but that's not what i'm asking. i kind of like the idea of trading a pick or two down and getting more picks. if we don't trade some for established NHL players, do you think we should trade down for multiple picks?

No, trading down is almost always a terrible move. What we should of done is keep those picks and take:

1) #37 Comrie,
2) Following picks that are left take Yakimov and Slepyshev (if available), if they are still on your list when the time comes. Given Slepyshev was past over the 1st year, and still available, he would likely have been around much later.

Also, remember when we traded down away from Parise and took Pouliot in a very deep draft?

With Comrie in the pipeline we would be in a much better situation today.
 

SK13

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Trading down to select is a bad idea.

Trading down to acquire more picks to move in trade at the draft? Maybe not so bad.
 

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No, trading down is almost always a terrible move. What we should of done is keep those picks and take:

1) #37 Comrie,
2) Following picks that are left take Yakimov and Slepyshev (if available), if they are still on your list when the time comes. Given Slepyshev was past over the 1st year, and still available, he would likely have been around much later.

Also, remember when we traded down away from Parise and took Pouliot in a very deep draft?

With Comrie in the pipeline we would be in a much better situation today.

Two words; Zach Parise
 

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No, trading down is almost always a terrible move. What we should of done is keep those picks and take:

1) #37 Comrie,
2) Following picks that are left take Yakimov and Slepyshev (if available), if they are still on your list when the time comes. Given Slepyshev was past over the 1st year, and still available, he would likely have been around much later.

Also, remember when we traded down away from Parise and took Pouliot in a very deep draft?

With Comrie in the pipeline we would be in a much better situation today.

Comire was available at 56... LOL.

Trading back for picks worked out extremely well that year. Drafting Roy worked out horribly.

Still though there is a ton of risk involved.
 

Aerchon

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The 16 and 33 should not be traded down in this draft unless it's a very short drop and your 99% sure the guy you want will be there.

From what I've heard our second second may be an option for that but again only a short drop, only if no clear cut BOP falls to you, or if your 99% sure you can get your targeted players lower.

I think Mac T did an ok job when he did it but this is a much different draft and would hope the Oilers do not do that this time.
 

BarDownBobo

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Two words; Zach Parise

It works both ways tho. At the 2011 Draft the Ducks traded #22 for #30 and #39. Trade works out to Tyler Biggs for Rickard Rakell and John Gibson. All depends how good your scouting staff is.

That said, I wouldn't trade back from 16. 33 I'd consider, depending what the offer is.
 
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