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oilers83

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I'd go the other way IF we need to get ahead of Calgary. Someone like Crouse or Werenski drops.
 

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I watched 7 minutes of that video and I must say that I hope that the same guys that have shat on Schultz aren't the same ones pumping Roy's tires. He's Schultz in the d-zone with less reach but more beef and a lot worse skating. He has some pluses to his game but he looks like a long term project player as he has a lot of warts in his game.

Did you see him at the U-18s?
 

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Depends on who we are targeting.

If we want one of the wingers, you keep the pick and take the best one. Konecny, Svechnekov, Zacha, Crouse, etc won't fall much farther than 16, if at all. If we want a guy like Roy, moving into the later part of the first round probably isn't the worst idea though. Especially if we can secure another 2nd rounder.

Another scenario is us targeting Ilya Samsonov. Taking him at 16 is extremely risky. But you'll still want to take him in the first round just so you have the compensation if he decides to stay in Russia.
 

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It works both ways tho. At the 2011 Draft the Ducks traded #22 for #30 and #39. Trade works out to Tyler Biggs for Rickard Rakell and John Gibson. All depends how good your scouting staff is.

That said, I wouldn't trade back from 16. 33 I'd consider, depending what the offer is.

Very nice trade!

Also reminded of trading up for Riley Nash. Conceptually the idea works both ways but only if you have good scouting and development.
 

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by the way, i'm not against trading picks for established NHL players, but i'd always like to see some kind of pick come back our way. say....Talbot and salary dump D Kevin Klein and pick #119 from the Rangers for pick #16, #57 and D Dillon Simpson....that sort of thing.
 

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Not this year. I want to trade the 16th overall and one of the 2nd round picks for help NOW
 

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Not this year. I want to trade the 16th overall and one of the 2nd round picks for help NOW

i think i'd be OK with it, but only *once* and only with pick #57 because i think they will indeed try to trade one of #16 or #33 for an NHL player and/or goalie, and make the other pick....i don't believe both of these 2 picks will be traded.

some media have touched on the apparent fact there isn't much talent difference between around pick #30 and pick #100....not sure i necessarily agree, but this is why i'm not against trading down if a chance comes to do it.

i also have faith that our scouting is a bit better than the Fraser/Pendergast years, and every draft is different, so i'm not as worried as most are when they point out what happened in the 2003 draft when we traded down. Pendergast wouldn't know good talent if it hit him on the head!!!
 

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it's an idea that has been talked about off and on and also in the Edmonton Journal. similar to what MacT did in 2013, when he traded the #37 pick to the LA Kings and #57 to the St. Louis Blues and got enough picks from both trades to get Yakimov, Slepyshev and Platzer so far, with possibly Aiden Muir down the road? it seemed to work pretty good, and with this draft being deep, a team with no 1st rounder may give up multiple picks for #16, or perhaps trade the #33 or #57 down for multiple picks.

though i know these picks are always targeted by fans wanting to trade them for established players, i get it, but that's not what i'm asking. i kind of like the idea of trading a pick or two down and getting more picks. if we don't trade some for established NHL players, do you think we should trade down for multiple picks?

yes--let extend the rebuild by 5 more years--at some point in time we need to start getting live bodies in the line up who are nhl ready
 

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At 16 my top three would be Svechnikov, Konecny, then Samsonov.

I doubt Konecny will be there so it comes down to Svechnikov or Samsonov... I really would be happy with either but I personally would pick Svechnikov.

I wouldn't be dissapointed if we grab Zboril of Chabot, even if they are LHD.

The three guys I absolutely do not want at 16 are Roy, Bittner and Kylington.

BTW, I did a three round mock draft:

Take a look!!!

To summarize the Oilers picks:

1- Connor McDavid
16- Evgeni Svechnikov
33- Roope Hintz
57- Thomas Schemitch
79- Loik Levielle
86- Keegan Kolesar

Not bad, but I would not take Hintz over Guryanov, Dunn, Beauvillier or Larsson. I think 57 is a much better spot to take him.
 

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Should the Oil trade up in a strong draft year?

This is a strong draft year.

If one of Hanifin, Provorov or Crouse slide down past #8 or #9, then do you believe that they are that valuable to make a package to move up this year's draft and come out with McDavid + top 10 prospect? I doubt Hanifin slides past 6 and not sure on how others value Werenski either. I am high on Provorov like the rest of hfoil.

The trade chips are there, starting with the 16th overall(most likely) + prospect or draft pick or depth player

I believe the scouts will be able to come out with a steal in round 2 or 3 in this draft just to add to McDavid as it is. The organization now have time to develop prospects in the system properly today with a core in the making as of lately.
 

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I'd only trade up if Werenski falls out of the top10. Otherwise no interest.
 

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1 - McDavid
16- Nicolas Meloche 97 born, and 10 points in 12 playoff games in the Q
33- Roope Hintz
57 - Felix Sandstrom 97 born Swedish goalie or goalie Matej Tomek
 

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1 - McDavid
16- Nicolas Meloche 97 born, and 10 points in 12 playoff games in the Q
33- Roope Hintz
57 - Felix Sandstrom 97 born Swedish goalie or goalie Matej Tomek

I agree with your 1! Lol

Meloche at 16? He probably won't be selected in the 1st round. Meloche is expected to go around 35-45. 16 is way too high for him especially with the guys who will be available there. The Oilers could trade down from 33 to get multiple picks and still get him if available. Same with Hintz at 33. He's expected to go 50-60. The Oilers could take him at 57 or if they like him trade up a few spots to get him.
 

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yes--let extend the rebuild by 5 more years--at some point in time we need to start getting live bodies in the line up who are nhl ready

why is it with fans that it's either/or and nothing else? all or nothing? in a deep draft, do you really want to trade most of the good picks we have? is that really necessary in order for us to acquire good NHL calibre players? ever heard of the UFA market? it may not be the deepest, but it's not swiss cheese either and can get us NHL calibre players for money without spending picks.
 

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I agree with your 1! Lol

Meloche at 16? He probably won't be selected in the 1st round. Meloche is expected to go around 35-45. 16 is way too high for him especially with the guys who will be available there. The Oilers could trade down from 33 to get multiple picks and still get him if available. Same with Hintz at 33. He's expected to go 50-60. The Oilers could take him at 57 or if they like him trade up a few spots to get him.

Meloche going past 40 will be a steal.

Hintz won't be available at #57.
 

OilTastic

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we have heard the Sharks might have interest in moving the #9 pick, but i don't think Provorov lasts that long. but i have also heard that Arizona could be listening to offers for the #3 pick. does that change anyones mind about trading up?
 

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Definite no.

Nothing past Eichel is worth burning assets to acquire. Everything else takes too long. Need NHL help now.
 

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Meloche going past 40 will be a steal.

Hintz won't be available at #57.

Yes, but why pick Meloche at 16 when he should be available at 33? That's poor asset management. And with Hintz, he very well might not be available at 57. He's expected to go around 50. Picking him at 33 when there are better ranked players available doesn't make sense.
 
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