Prospect Info: 2015 NHL Entry Draft Thread | It's The Final Countdown: TODAY!

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snizzb0ne

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Curious as to why you all want the Oilers to take Svechnikov.. Because repeatedly drafting forwards has worked out so well.
 

HeavyHitter99

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Curious as to why you all want the Oilers to take Svechnikov.. Because repeatedly drafting forwards has worked out so well.

You have to weigh all your options so early on in the draft. He's the total package, hard not to consider him.
 

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With all this talent we're building in forwards, I envision future Oilers games like this:

"Eberle scores his first hat trick, Hall and Nuge had a two goal game, and McDavid recorded six points."

"Yeah, but who won?"

:laugh:
 
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McChucky

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I know we have this locked down but I still cant wait for him to pull that jersey over his head. I need some closure....lol.
 

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Curious as to why you all want the Oilers to take Svechnikov.. Because repeatedly drafting forwards has worked out so well.

Odds are there isn't a defenceman there to pick at 16. I think it's going to be a wild draft but the only "inside" information we have about what NHL teams think is McKenzie's list and he only has 4 D in the top 21.
 

Oilin Toronto

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Rumor in Toronto is that Leafs are looking to parlay the 24OA into 2 nd rounders. If that's true, a logical swap would be 33rd and 57th for the 24th.

You then package the 16th and 24th to jump into the 8-10 area and hope that Hannafin falls to you. If not, you have the chance to pick one of Werenski, Connor or someone you really like (Crouse). At this point, I'd rather have quality rather than quantity. Having a second pick in the top 10 would be tremendous.

Thoughts?
 

Oilin Toronto

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Sorry for the double post, but for some reason, with all of the top offensive talent out there, there is a good chance that 2 of the top 3 D (Hannafin, Provorov or Werenski) will be available in the 8-10 range.

Imagine coming away with McD and one of the 3 mentioned, and with how deep the draft is, we can gamble on a high risk, high reward pick, or one of Vladar or Blackwood in the 3rd Rd.
 

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Rumor in Toronto is that Leafs are looking to parlay the 24OA into 2 nd rounders. If that's true, a logical swap would be 33rd and 57th for the 24th.

You then package the 16th and 24th to jump into the 8-10 area and hope that Hannafin falls to you. If not, you have the chance to pick one of Werenski, Connor or someone you really like (Crouse). At this point, I'd rather have quality rather than quantity. Having a second pick in the top 10 would be tremendous.

Thoughts?

My thoughts use 16 in a package to get a good NHL d-man, use 33rd in a package to get a good NHL goalie, and with the 57th I guess we can actually use that to do this odd thing they call "drafting".
 

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Rumor in Toronto is that Leafs are looking to parlay the 24OA into 2 nd rounders. If that's true, a logical swap would be 33rd and 57th for the 24th.

You then package the 16th and 24th to jump into the 8-10 area and hope that Hannafin falls to you. If not, you have the chance to pick one of Werenski, Connor or someone you really like (Crouse). At this point, I'd rather have quality rather than quantity. Having a second pick in the top 10 would be tremendous.

Thoughts?

Sorry for the double post, but for some reason, with all of the top offensive talent out there, there is a good chance that 2 of the top 3 D (Hannafin, Provorov or Werenski) will be available in the 8-10 range.

Imagine coming away with McD and one of the 3 mentioned, and with how deep the draft is, we can gamble on a high risk, high reward pick, or one of Vladar or Blackwood in the 3rd Rd.

Nice idea I suppose but imagine trading draft picks for actual NHL players!! Shocking concept I know
 

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Curious as to why you all want the Oilers to take Svechnikov.. Because repeatedly drafting forwards has worked out so well.

Well when the Oil take McDavid and the Leafs take whatever is leftover, you can come back and repeat the same sentiment aight?:laugh:
 

Oilin Toronto

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Nice idea I suppose but imagine trading draft picks for actual NHL players!! Shocking concept I know

Are you kidding me...I'm proposing a scenario where we might be able to grab a potential franchise D, a la Jones or Ekblad, and you don't want to look at it. Any one of those 3 D that I mentioned could step in and be better than anything we pick up with in a trade with the 16th. And have this happen as early as next year.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the 16th, or even your top F on the team will not land you Ek or Jones.

I think we have an opportunity, for the first time ever, to pick a top D, and you scoff at it.

Just curious, you've seen what I'm proposing, please enlighten me with a proposal of what you think we might be able to obtain in a trade with the 16th?
 

HeavyHitter99

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Are you kidding me...I'm proposing a scenario where we might be able to grab a potential franchise D, a la Jones or Ekblad, and you don't want to look at it. Any one of those 3 D that I mentioned could step in and be better than anything we pick up with in a trade with the 16th. And have this happen as early as next year.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the 16th, or even your top F on the team will not land you Ek or Jones.

I think we have an opportunity, for the first time ever, to pick a top D, and you scoff at it.

Just curious, you've seen what I'm proposing, please enlighten me with a proposal of what you think we might be able to obtain in a trade with the 16th?

They MIGHT be franchise D and no I'd love to look at it but I prefer NHL dmen that can help us improve now. 16th by itself doesn't get us **** all but 16th + could get us a Burns of Byfuglien of the rumors are true. No dman drafted this year will be step into the NHL and be better that these 2. Fact.

Also with a late top 10 pick we are looking at Provorov and Werenski. Both (especially Werenski) need work and would benefit from not stepping into the NHL next season instantly. Fact.

You might want to calm down and relax instead of getting upset and putting words in my mouth.

Would I love to trade up? Sure would. Would I rather package 16th + two pieces for someone like Burns? Yes easily as would most posters on here.
 
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Oilin Toronto

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They MIGHT be franchise D and no I'd love to look at it but I prefer NHL dmen that can help us improve now. 16th by itself doesn't get us **** all but 16th + could get us a Burns of Byfuglien of the rumors are true. No dman drafted this year will be step into the NHL and be better that these 2. Fact.

Also with a late top 10 pick we are looking at Provorov and Werenski. Both (especially Werenski) need work and would benefit from not stepping into the NHL next season. Fact.

You might want to calm down and relax instead of getting upset and putting words in my mouth.

Would I love to trade up? Sure would. Would I rather package 16th + two pieces for someone like Burns? Yes easily as would most posters on here.

I'm plenty relaxed!!!

I don't think you are aware what Burns will cost. I'm quite certain it'll be someone like Yak + Next year's 1st. Are you really ready to give that up? Plus, do you really think that we are ready to make a long push in the playoff's next year. The three I mentioned will be ready just in time. Just my opinion, but I think Werenski may very well turn out to be the best of the bunch.

I'm quite certain that any one of the 3 will be better than Burns in a couple of years time. Plus we will have them as one of our cornerstone for the next 10 yrs.

My point is, the 16th & 33rd is not going to land you Burns. Get the franchise D when you have the chance.
 

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I'm plenty relaxed!!!

I don't think you are aware what Burns will cost. I'm quite certain it'll be someone like Yak + Next year's 1st. Are you really ready to give that up? Plus, do you really think that we are ready to make a long push in the playoff's next year. The three I mentioned will be ready just in time. Just my opinion, but I think Werenski may very well turn out to be the best of the bunch.

I'm quite certain that any one of the 3 will be better than Burns in a couple of years time. Plus we will have them as one of our cornerstone for the next 10 yrs.

My point is, the 16th & 33rd is not going to land you Burns. Get the franchise D when you have the chance.

Fair enough and I understand your point and I agree that Burns will be a hefty price tag. I was never against trading up, we just need NHL proven talent. If we are trading up 16th + Marincin probably moves up in to the 8-10 range. Depending on how teams value Marincin. I guess if you want to trade up more the 33+57 would get you around 24-26.

That's the great thing about the position we are in this year. We could move up, trade for Current NHL dmen or stand pat. We have 5 (no including McDavid) draft picks in the top 90. We can make a lot of different things happen.
 

Oilin Toronto

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Fair enough and I understand your point and I agree that Burns will be a hefty price tag. I was never against trading up, we just need NHL proven talent. If we are trading up 16th + Marincin probably moves up in to the 8-10 range. Depending on how teams value Marincin. I guess if you want to trade up more the 33+57 would get you around 24-26.

That's the great thing about the position we are in this year. We could move up, trade for Current NHL dmen or stand pat. We have 5 (no including McDavid) draft picks in the top 90. We can make a lot of different things happen.

For the record, I'm not disagreeing with you.

For once, I'd like us to get that potential franchise D. I've got to tell you, I'm envious when I see FL and Nashville pick up the franchise D. They are not trading those 2 for anyone on our team not named McDavid on a 1 on 1 trade. That's why I covet that 8-11 spot so badly. I think Werenski has the chance to every bit as good as Jones, and it will not take him time to make our lineup as at least a second pairing D.
 

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For the record, I'm not disagreeing with you.

For once, I'd like us to get that potential franchise D. I've got to tell you, I'm envious when I see FL and Nashville pick up the franchise D. They are not trading those 2 for anyone on our team not named McDavid on a 1 on 1 trade. That's why I covet that 8-11 spot so badly. I think Werenski has the chance to every bit as good as Jones, and it will not take him time to make our lineup as at least a second pairing D.

Werenski's defensive game needs work. Out of the 3 he is the one that would benefit the most from another year out of the NHL
 

PKSpecialist

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Werenski's defensive game needs work. Out of the 3 he is the one that would benefit the most from year out of the NHL

I agree with this, but I personally think Werenski had the highest ceiling of the 3. He has more work to do to get there, but I think he is a fantastic prospect. That said, I am not interested in trading up in this draft. Good players will be there at our current placements, and I would much rather trade these picks for real NHLers if we are dealing them.
 

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I'm glad I took draft day off of work haha, going to be a good one. I'm reading as much as I can about this years draft class, going to get as hyped as I possibly can. It's going to be very interesting to see if we trade that 16 pick, also going to be pretty crazy watching which players fall to that pick. I think it'll be a very valuable pick for some teams considering there's always a player or two that fall a bit more than expected.. Just hoping that if we keep the pick we don't take Samsonov with it.
 
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