OT: 2015 Draft picks updates - II

[BNHL]

Zboril 20-6-12-18

DeBrusk 28-5-8-13 PRO

Senyshyn 25-17-11-28

Carlo 33-2-5-7 BOS

JFK 17-3-12-15

Lauzon 13-2-9-11

Gabrielle 28-19-13-32

Hughes 16-2-11-13

Becker 22-4-3-7

 

[tremha]

2015 Draft

I appreciate it is still early and the jury is out BUT would you stay with Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn?

Would you keep any of them?

Later picks include Chabot, Barzal, Connor, White, Konecky, Greenway,...

 

[BruinsBtn]

Zboril over Chabot is looking like one that should get a scout fired. They played on the same junior team so it was an ultra-straightforward evaluation. And it could really hurt because Chabot is in the same division.

On the forwards, it doesn't look great but I think they really believe in the value of character and that can take a few years to turn into results.

 

[chizzler]

I appreciate it is still early and the jury is out BUT would you stay with Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn?

Would you keep any of them?

Later picks include Chabot, Barzal, Connor, White, Konecky, Greenway,...

I know 31 teams that would live your onsite into the future. Where were you at the draft? You have a future. Can you please tell the Bruins which player to pick. Thanks.

 

[tremha]

I know 31 teams that would live your onsite into the future. Where were you at the draft? You have a future. Can you please tell the Bruins which player to pick. Thanks.

I assume your broken english meant to read "would love your insight".

I wasn't being critical it was simply a question. Seeing where all the players are today would you change any of the picks.

i imagine you are doing well in life with that witty sarcasm.

 

[Pia8988]

I appreciate it is still early and the jury is out BUT would you stay with Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn?

Would you keep any of them?

Later picks include Chabot, Barzal, Connor, White, Konecky, Greenway,...

Happy with Senyshyn and Debrusk. Biggest question mark is Zboril imo.

However a rather pointless endeavor in my opinion. You can make hindsight nitpicks about a lot of draft picks.

 

[PB37]

Zboril over Chabot is looking like one that should get a scout fired. They played on the same junior team so it was an ultra-straightforward evaluation. And it could really hurt because Chabot is in the same division.

On the forwards, it doesn't look great but I think they really believe in the value of character and that can take a few years to turn into results.

Zboril was the consensus next best dman at the time the Bruins got him.

 

[chizzler]

I assume your broken english meant to read "would love your insight".

I wasn't being critical it was simply a question. Seeing where all the players are today would you change any of the picks.

i imagine you are doing well in life with that witty sarcasm.

My wellness aside, I just think people around here are pulling a Monday quarter back with the picks. Most are a year out from their draft. They all need to develop. Trying to figure out what an 18 yr old is going to be is tough. To simply look at numbers now and say some of these are getting outscored or they aren't playing for national teams means they re busts. Should have taken this or that guy. It's the same thing over and over. The intent last was not to take those three. They got put into a corner. But that's another issue. You can't look at one year and assume things. I know being a scout is one of the hardest things to do. Question is, will Sweeney give then the time they need.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Zboril over Chabot is looking like one that should get a scout fired. They played on the same junior team so it was an ultra-straightforward evaluation. And it could really hurt because Chabot is in the same division.

On the forwards, it doesn't look great but I think they really believe in the value of character and that can take a few years to turn into results.

My guess is that they liked the nasty side to Zboril's game. It is what it is.

 

[BNHL]

Zboril 20-6-12-18

Debrusk 33-8-10-18 PRO

Senyshyn 29-20-11-31

Carlo 40-2-6-8 BOS

JFK 17-3-12-15

Lauzon 13-2-9-11

Gabrielle 31-19-13-32

Hughes 16-2-11-13

Becker 24-4-4-8

 

[Ratty]

Zboril was the consensus next best dman at the time the Bruins got him.

Right. Safe pick. Good scouting has a way of separating better talent from combine, consensus evaluations. The point above, that Zboril and Chabot are on the same team, thus available in one scouting visit, is valid.

Seeing Barzal in the World Juniors has me scratching my head as to how he got past us.

 

[DominicT]

Zboril 20-6-12-18

Debrusk 33-8-10-18 PRO

Senyshyn 29-20-11-31

Carlo 40-2-6-8 BOS

JFK 17-3-12-15

Lauzon 13-2-9-11

Gabrielle 31-19-13-32

Hughes 16-2-11-13

Becker 24-4-4-8

Here's an interesting stat for you.

Of those 20 goals, 1, yes only one, has come on the powerplay.

I'm seeing more and more people put a greater value on 5 on 5 production, so there it is

 

[Dr Hook]

Here's an interesting stat for you.

Of those 20 goals, 1, yes only one, has come on the powerplay.

I'm seeing more and more people put a greater value on 5 on 5 production, so there it is

The only bummer about that from the B's perspective is that our powerplay is rotten- is he effective on the PP ? I don't know near enough about his game or the team he is on to have an idea. Is he another Marchy on the PP?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

The only bummer about that from the B's perspective is that our powerplay is rotten- is he effective on the PP ? I don't know near enough about his game or the team he is on to have an idea. Is he another Marchy on the PP?

Funny that was my thought as well.

I guess speed is less effective on the power play than at even strength or even shorthanded.

 

[Brucentric*]

Right. Safe pick. Good scouting has a way of separating better talent from combine, consensus evaluations. The point above, that Zboril and Chabot are on the same team, thus available in one scouting visit, is valid.

Seeing Barzal in the World Juniors has me scratching my head as to how he got past us.

Why, he has not looked that good. I mean he has been OK but nobody that has taken a game over or even dominated at all. . Small also and not physical. Still a kid but i am not saying the B's blew it yet for sure.

 

[BNHL]

Here's an interesting stat for you.

Of those 20 goals, 1, yes only one, has come on the powerplay.

I'm seeing more and more people put a greater value on 5 on 5 production, so there it is

Thanks Dom,I think I saw you mention that on twitter or maybe it was here a few days ago. I am one that favors 5 v 5 production.

 

[DominicT]

Thanks Dom,I think I saw you mention that on twitter or maybe it was here a few days ago. I am one that favors 5 v 5 production.

On the other hand, 60% of his assists are on the PP

 

[Ratty]

Why, he has not looked that good. I mean he has been OK but nobody that has taken a game over or even dominated at all. . Small also and not physical. Still a kid but i am not saying the B's blew it yet for sure.

It's his skating and stick handling that impresses like the assist he made on Chabot's goal tonight.

 

[burstnbloom]

It's his skating and stick handling that impresses like the assist he made on Chabot's goal tonight.

Barzal was as advertised on the power play during world juniors. Very effective in space, good vision, strong passers. He was shockingly weak on the walls and kind of non existent at even strength. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm not mourning this loss.

As for the Chabot and Greenway suggestions, Chabot was behind Zboril in their draft year by a fair margin and while Greenway looks great now, I'm not sure wed have been so happy if the picked a guy slated to go mid to late second at 14 given the huge, still present backlash about picking xDebrusk, who was in the 20's. Let's try to maintain a little intellectual honesty here. Lament not taking Connor or Barzal all you want but when we are citing secondrounders as better picks in their draft plus 2 year, we are drunk on hindsight.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Barzal was as advertised on the power play during world juniors. Very effective in space, good vision, strong passers. He was shockingly weak on the walls and kind of non existent at even strength. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm not mourning this loss.

As for the Chabot and Greenway suggestions, Chabot was behind Zboril in their draft year by a fair margin and while Greenway looks great now, I'm not sure wed have been so happy if the picked a guy slated to go mid to late second at 14 given the huge, still present backlash about picking xDebrusk, who was in the 20's. Let's try to maintain a little intellectual honesty here. Lament not taking Connor or Barzal all you want but when we are citing secondrounders as better picks in their draft plus 2 year, we are drunk on hindsight.

That said, this is the team where we draft second rounders in the first round...

 

[Meusoc]

Here's an interesting stat for you.

Of those 20 goals, 1, yes only one, has come on the powerplay.

I'm seeing more and more people put a greater value on 5 on 5 production, so there it is

He's almost 20 years old and he's playing against 16 and 17 year old. Swing and miss.

 

[DominicT]

He's almost 20 years old and he's playing against 16 and 17 year old. Swing and miss.

I'll give you the age and add this

There are about 500 skaters (not goalies) that play somewhat regularly in the OHL.

44 are 16 turning 17

122 are 17 turning 18

334 are 18 turning 19 or 19 turning 20. (who play more regularly than the younger guys)

You make it sound like he's an old man playing against kids

 

[ODAAT]

Here's an interesting stat for you.

Of those 20 goals, 1, yes only one, has come on the powerplay.

I'm seeing more and more people put a greater value on 5 on 5 production, so there it is

I thought you were going to say the other 19 came on the PK Dom

 

[BNHL]

He's almost 20 years old and he's playing against 16 and 17 year old. Swing and miss.

I would be more worried if his statistical performance stalled as he aged,but it hasn't. Excuse the start this year for the illness and I think the statistical progression is exactly what you like to see.

 

[DKH]

Trent Frederic 18 years old playing against 21-23 year old and playing 200 foot power game

Swing and.....'there's a long drive hit deep to left field (pause)....I don't believe what I just saw' HOME RUN!!!! Don Sweeney has gone yard