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2015-2016 Roster Talk: East Coast Thinks We Suck Edition(MOD WARNING) post# 107

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tsanuri said:
That one I don't have as much problem with but you'd said Toffoli. You don't trade the 30-40 goal scorer and the only one on the team that has a chance at 40+.

And I think that is a move that might have to be made anyway. Having both of them up in the same year is rough.
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Yeah, you don't move Tofffoli. Starting to wonder though what the forwards beyond the top 4 look like in a couple of years if the cap hits for these guys are:

Kopitar $10M
Lucic $6.5M
Toffoli $6M
Carter $5.3M

Lucic and Toffoli are guesses, but I think I am in the ballpark.
 
Minor Boarding said:
Again with that training camp shape ****?
Kopitar has some of the toughest TOI-SHTOI and for the past 8 years no other Kings player outscored him. His Pts/G is simmilar to Toews who was never the top scorer of the Blackhawks in the playoffs.
I have never read by any player, tv analyst or GM call Kopitar anything other then a consumate pro.
Maybe it's time for you to clean your fantasy issues you have with said player.
I wonder if the Ducks/Hawks have posters with your kind of issues towards Getzlaf/Toews...
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Ducks fans definitely have issues with Getzlaf, and you will with Kopitar in a few seasons probably.

Regarding his off season program, all you have to do is read some of Lombardi's interviews. I don't make this s*** up. :shakehead
 
Great news about the Kopi signing... been a little busy today... It may take some time to go back through all the freaking out....

Now to get Lucic locked up... get'er done !!!!
 
KingsFan7824 said:
That's not really an alternative. Lombardi says no to Kopitar's/his agent's demand. Now what? What's the alternative to Kopitar that keeps the Kings a contender for however long you think they should be one?
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Letting go of top players was somewhat a Kings specialty in the past...
Blake, Murphy..
I guess people miss those times, where management would yearly mismanage players and prospects...
 
KINGS17 said:
Yeah, you don't move Tofffoli. Starting to wonder though what the forwards beyond the top 4 look like in a couple of years if the cap hits for these guys are:

Kopitar $10M
Lucic $6.5M
Toffoli $6M
Carter $5.3M

Lucic and Toffoli are guesses, but I think I am in the ballpark.
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It really depends on who is considered the comp for Toffoli. If it's Tarasenko then he's looking at more. And he's only 3 goals off of him with 2 less games this year.
 
tsanuri said:
That one I don't have as much problem with but you'd said Toffoli. You don't trade the 30-40 goal scorer and the only one on the team that has a chance at 40+.

And I think that is a move that might have to be made anyway. Having both of them up in the same year is rough.
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Well, if we're able to trade Pearson along with Brownie, then trade/waive Greene, and not re-sign Ehrhoff, that JUST may be enough to re-sign Lucic to a long term, and Schenn to a 1 or 2 year extension.
 
Minor Boarding said:
Letting go of top players was somewhat a Kings specialty in the past...
Blake, Murphy..
I guess people miss those times, where management would yearly mismanage players and prospects...
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I wouldn't go that far. There are perfectly legitimate questions and concerns about how Kopitar's contract makes everything else fit. The only question to those questions is what else is there for Lombardi to do? Give me a player he can trade for. Give me a player he can sign. What's the contract? Is he younger? Is he older?

Depth is important to win a Cup. Top players are important to win a Cup. Name the alternative to Kopitar, and you can trade #11 yesterday. Players come and go. We've said goodbye to Mitchell and Williams. Unfortunately Richards went down hill. But instead of Kopitar, who? Who is coming in that's cheaper, probably younger, and can be at least as good as Carter, next October?
 
Not sure how you stumbled into your new name, Brad, but every time I read your new name I see something like this:

 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I think Toffoli is getting 7x7 easy and it'll be worth it.
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Can we start a thread on it now? Looking forward to 18 more months of folks telling us why we shouldn't sign another indispensable player because of an outdated sense of a player's market value.
 
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Ron said:
Can we start a thread on it now? Looking forward to 18 more months of folks telling us why we shouldn't sign another indispensable player because of an outdated sense of a player's market value.
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Toffoli won't be 29 years of age, when he signs his next big contract.

He will be worth every penny.

Unless he falls off the planet at a young age.
 
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Jeff18 said:
What happens when everyone agrees on a trade board thread?
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The poster who started the thread gets a Rodney King style beating from the guys who beat the seals in Canada


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Jeff18 said:
What happens when everyone agrees on a trade board thread?
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My favorite part is the guys who take it super serious accepting and rejecting trades... Like, you realize you don't have that authority...right?
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I think Toffoli is getting 7x7 easy and it'll be worth it.
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Ron said:
Can we start a thread on it now? Looking forward to 18 more months of folks telling us why we shouldn't sign another indispensable player because of an outdated sense of a player's market value.
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In hindsight, had they known what was gonna happen with Voynov, they could have signed him for 8 years in the summer (3 RFA years) at around $5.5M
 
damacles1156 said:
Toffoli won't be 29 years of age, when he signs his next big contract.

He will be worth every penny.

Unless he falls off the planet at a young age.
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It really is a shame Dean didn't have the space to buy some Toffoli UFA years last summer, but he did himself in on that possibility when he failed to use the compliance buyout on Richards and gave Brown a deal that is 4 years too long.
 
Ron said:
Can we start a thread on it now? Looking forward to 18 more months of folks telling us why we shouldn't sign another indispensable player because of an outdated sense of a player's market value.
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I am looking forward to months of, "Pay the man.", posts. Those are always so deep and thought provoking. :help:
 
Interesting bit from Dennis Bernstein's latest Kopi column at thefourthperiod.com,

At present, the Blackhawks have 12 players on their NHL roster making less than $1 million this season, including five players on entry-level deals, a stunning number and a tribute to both the organization's ability to draft and develop, as well as pricing their role players correctly. They've found the correct (read: cheap) talent to mesh with a core similar to what Los Angeles has and just imagine what Bowman could add if he ever finds a taker for Bryan Bickell.

Conversely, the Kings have four players that make less than $1 million per year on their active roster with only one, Mersch, on his entry level deal.
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PJ Kings Hockey said:
Interesting bit from Dennis Bernstein's latest Kopi column at thefourthperiod.com,
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It is interesting but it also doesn't necessarily account for where we are at--the Hawks have had to purge their roster essentially twice, where we've only shed a guy or two per year and had some consistency. Ours is coming up, and we're likely to be in that position they're in now in two years (having cheaper deals dictated by the cap) IF the cap doesn't go up.
 
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