Speculation: 2015 - 2016 New York Rangers Roster Building Thread Part XX

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BarbaraAlphanse

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While you can't ignore the fact that Pittsburgh does have some very good forwards (albeit not nearly enough of them) any conversation about Pittsburgh has to eventually get to their back end, which is assuredly not one of the top 15 defenses in the NHL. I don't see them making the payoffs either. Prediction -- Mike Johnson gets whacked before Christmas.

I say right around February.
 

aufheben

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Here's 4 facts
1. We're on a Rangers board.
2. You're a Rangers fan.
3. The Rangers had more points last year than the Penguins.
4. The Rangers have knocked the Penguins out of the playoffs the last 2 years.

Why do you feel the need to say negative things about the Rangers and positive things about the Penguins?


At this point, I don't think it's a hockey issue, I think it's a psychological issue.
Objectivity? Not agreeing with him, but people are allowed to criticize the Rangers on here.

Although discussing the Penguins' off-season moves could probably be moved to the Around the NHL thread.
 

CupWindow

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Objectivity? Not agreeing with him, but people are allowed to criticize the Rangers on here.

You cannot objectively state the Penguins are better than the Rangers.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad offense.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad defense.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad goalie.
 

DanielBrassard

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You cannot objectively state the Penguins are better than the Rangers.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad offense.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad defense.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad goalie.

1. Disagree, theres an argument
2. Agree, they have one of the best
3. Agree, its ok
4. Agree, he's a top-3 goalie
 

aufheben

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You cannot objectively state the Penguins are better than the Rangers.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad offense.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad defense.

You cannot objectively state the Rangers have a bad goalie.
My point is that this being a board for Rangers fans doesn't mean people can't criticize them, or propose that other teams are better. Whether or not this is the right thread for that is a different matter, though.
 
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Raspewtin

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While you can't ignore the fact that Pittsburgh does have some very good forwards (albeit not nearly enough of them) any conversation about Pittsburgh has to eventually get to their back end, which is assuredly not one of the top 15 defenses in the NHL. I don't see them making the payoffs either. Prediction -- Mike Johnson gets whacked before Christmas.

They have three top 15 offensive talents in the entire league. A guaranteed 20 goal scorer in Hornqvist, a very gifted but streaky talent in David Perron, and a whole collection of good middle 6 players. Where are they lacking at forward? I don't see it.
 

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They have three top 15 offensive talents in the entire league. A guaranteed 20 goal scorer in Hornqvist, a very gifted but streaky talent in David Perron, and a whole collection of good middle 6 players. Where are they lacking at forward? I don't see it.

They're not. What the Penguins offense does for their team the Rangers defense does for our team.
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Lol it took you that long? All the old guys have posts that are level headed and make sense. Its starting to be a rarity on this board :(

Do you consider me:

A) a bratty teenager
B) a level headed old guy
C) chiseled stud who's intelligence and wit is bar none in NY
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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A no.
B. Yeah but sometimes you go off the radar and you're not old nice try
C. Hell yes cuz lol :biglaugh:

I'm 23. I'm glad I wasnt a, sometimes b, and absolutely c. Aiming for the physicality of that option by recently taking up boxing lessons. Golden gloves here I come... Jk.
 

Raspewtin

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Listen there is just some fans of teams that absolutely crap on their team and drool over others. I have a word for those fans but im pretty sure I'll get another infraction if i say it so its a moot point.

One more month boys Lets go Rangers!:yo:

I don't understand what's so cringe worthy and repulsive about saying the Penguins are going to be very good and the Rangers defense isn't that good?
 

Raspewtin

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Well i think the rangers are going to be very good and the Penguins Defense isn't that good. See what i did? Its called my opinion. And guess what you don't have to understand it.

That's not my point at all. Nobody is sandbaging the Rangers while slobbering all over the Penguins like you just said they are. It's a team discussion. Who's going to sit here and just stroke the Rangers' perceived superiority all summer? There's other teams, and negatives, to discuss.
 

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I don't understand what's so cringe worthy and repulsive about saying the Penguins are going to be very good and the Rangers defense isn't that good?

Crosby, Fehr, and Dupuis are really their only forwards who can really be relied on to defend top players. Their D doesn't get much help in that regard. That's probably the only major weakness I can see.
 

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That's not my point at all. Nobody is sandbaging the Rangers while slobbering all over the Penguins like you just said they are. It's a team discussion. Who's going to sit here and just stroke the Rangers' perceived superiority all summer? There's other teams, and negatives, to discuss.

I'd agree if 50% of your posts were positive and 50% were negative.

But it's pretty much constantly at 95% negativity towards the Rangers.

Like I said, I don't think it's hockey related.
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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I inherently watch a lot more of the Penguins than I want to. My girlfriend is a die hard penguins fan.

Defense + MAF is trouble as it is. Any injuries to the offense and their depth becomes non existent.
 
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That's not my point at all. Nobody is sandbaging the Rangers while slobbering all over the Penguins like you just said they are. It's a team discussion. Who's going to sit here and just stroke the Rangers' perceived superiority all summer? There's other teams, and negatives, to discuss.

Well i don't mind talking up the rangers all off season. I'm a diehard rangers fan and i don't minf taking a **** on other teams. Not my own tho. Not at least with what they've accomplished these past few seasons
 

CupWindow

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Well i don't mind talking up the rangers all off season. I'm a diehard rangers fan and i don't minf taking a **** on other teams. Not my own tho. Not at least with what they've accomplished these past few seasons

Atta boy purp
 
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