Salary Cap: 2015 - 2016 New York Rangers Roster Building Thread Part VI

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NYRFANMANI

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This offseason is going to be awful. Literally every rumor besides Talbot for the 16th is just terrible in every way.


Well be honest, that's the best rumor we could have hoped for.

Picking in the first would leave the season with a better taste in my mouth.
 

LaffyTaffyNYR

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Well be honest, that's the best rumor we could have hoped for.

Picking in the first would leave the season with a better taste in my mouth.

it's going to be pretty much the same team, we need anther scorer but its not like we won't contend again.
 

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I don't think McIlrath fought much at all. 13 scraps in 73 games when the A still has plenty of goons. He showed a lot of restraint in games with multiple fighters on the other team. If he's with the Rangers, I don't see many challengers next year. Fighting will become even more past tense next season. AV is more of a worry for McIlrath than too much fighting.
 

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If we trade Talbot we're going to have to add a backup. Skapski is not the guy for that--at least not yet. It sounds like we'll probably get a great return for Cam and that $1.45 mil one year contract that the Rangers got him to sign looks to be an astute move on Sather/Gorton's part. Otherwise he'd be going into the summer as a UFA. Ponder that if you will.

I would be okay with Soderberg depending on the cost. He'd fit on our team most likely as a 3rd liner so I wouldn't want to give him more than 3 years and I'd try to keep him to $3 mil per or under.

I'm not for moving Yandle either. I don't believe Boyle will be around past next year and Yandle I'd expect is going to be our primary offensive D next year and maybe for the future. Girardi and Staal both have NMC's and are not really movable. Just thought I'd mention it for those who haven't heard. The Rangers did not sign Staal the middle of this past season- - then give him an NMC with the idea of trading him before the ink on the contract dries. Girardi's contract becomes a modified NTC starting the 16-17 season--two seasons as NMC--Staal's turns to a partial NTC in 17-18--2 years NMC. The only guy that is really movable on our defense is Klein. I don't particularly have an issue with our defense as currently constructed going into next season. They do take up a lot of cap space but they are one of the best units in the league.

Anyway I really like Talbot but we need the first rounder (if we can get it) and it wouldn't be good for us not to move him and lose him as a UFA after next year nor fair to himself to not find out just how good he can be and how much money he can make. He needs to move along. It's both in the Rangers interests and his own.
 

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Would really like to keep Yandle. He adds a wonderful dimension and it showed when the team wasn't forced to play caveman hockey like against the Caps lol.
 

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I still have hope that McIlrath will be a decent defenseman tbh. He needs to stop fighting though.

He does not need to stop fighting. Anywhere between 5 to 10 times a year I'd be fine with and as he grows older the numbers maybe decrease. He's a physical D and some of the fights come to him after he creams somebody. Most of his other fights come from defending a teammate. He's got to play his game. He should stay away from the staged fights--there should be a reason for it when it happens.
 

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What is different from Larry having a vendetta against Yandle and me having a vendetta against Nash?

Larry kept putting Miller in packages this past deadline. "Miller and a 2nd for Santorelli".

He associated a ****ing deadline for Miller to show up for the team, otherwise he claimed the team would have to trade him. JT was 21 years old at the time. 21. Larry was ready to give up on him at the age of 21, halfway through his first, somewhat full, pro-season (at the time, Miller was off and on the ice being scratched).

Now, Miller showed promise after the deadline, becoming quite pivotal to the team.... and Larry has moved forward to Yandle. This is his opinion, just as my opinion is to ship Rick Nash out of here. The only difference is that I'm not writing for the NY Post where I have the capability to reach thousands of people with my ideas.

IMO, Yandle isn't going anywhere.

Sather coveted him for years. Isn't that what came out of the lion's mouth himself, upon being acquired?

And Yandle... Yandle performed quite commendably when the team needed him the most. I think Machinehead said he had some total like 4 turnovers the entire playoffs for us?

I don't think Yandle is going anywhere. He will be part of the Rangers for a long long time.
 

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I think Staal is shipped to Toronto next year with JVR coming back the other way.

Babcock turns that franchise around a little and the prospect of playing there becomes that much more palatable for incoming players.

Staal (base) for JVR (base).

Rangers need to free up cap space to retain Yandle, Kreider, Hayes, and perhaps Hagelin (if he's not signed long term this year/traded).

The other alternative is to trade Nash.
 

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I think Staal is shipped to Toronto next year with JVR coming back the other way.

Babcock turns that franchise around a little and the prospect of playing there becomes that much more palatable for incoming players.

Staal (base) for JVR (base).

Rangers need to free up cap space to retain Yandle, Kreider, Hayes, and perhaps Hagelin (if he's not signed long term this year/traded).

The other alternative is to trade Nash.

Makes absolutely no sense for Toronto as a rebuilding team to trade a younger top 6 PWF for a top 4 LHD, an area which they are stacked with (Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner, maybe Hanafin?). IMO
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Makes absolutely no sense for Toronto as a rebuilding team to trade a younger top 6 PWF for a top 4 LHD, an area which they are stacked with (Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner, maybe Hanafin?). IMO

I would think that Gardiner and Phaneuf are at some point shipped. And Hanafin is what, 3 years away, at earliest? He is a raw prospect. And Rielly is hardly as gritty stay at home defenseman.
 
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Yandle shouldn't be going anywhere. Our defense is trash at playing with the puck and he's great at it. We need more players like Yandle, not more pluggers and shot blockers.
 

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I would think that Gardiner and Phaneuf are at some point shipped. And Hanafin is what, 3 years away, at earliest? He is a raw prospect. And Rielly is hardly as gritty stay at home defenseman.

Hanifin isn't 3 years away though.

And the Leafs are going to tank for a few seasons. They've openly stated they're in a rebuilding phase, which throws out any proposals of a 29 yr old Marc Staal IMO.

Plus they also have Polak, a similar defender to Staal.
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Hanifin isn't 3 years away though.

And the Leafs are going to tank for a few seasons. They've openly stated they're in a rebuilding phase, which throws out any proposals of a 29 yr old Marc Staal IMO.

Plus they also have Polak, a similar defender to Staal.

I caught a few games with him at BC this year. Very raw player.

He just turned 18 a few months ago. Lately a lot of players have been staying 3 or all 4 years with York. He was a freshman. If he stays until his junior year is over, that is another 2 years at collegiate, and then probably another year in AHL before he is able to come up.

How much have you watched of him? Electric but he needs time to clean up several areas of his game.
 

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I caught a few games with him at BC this year. Very raw player.

He just turned 18 a few months ago. Lately a lot of players have been staying 3 or all 4 years with York. He was a freshman. If he stays until his junior year is over, that is another 2 years at collegiate, and then probably another year in AHL before he is able to come up.

How much have you watched of him? Electric but he needs time to clean up several areas of his game.

Watched a few games during the WJCs, nothing other than that.

I sincerely doubt he'll spend 3-4 years in college, he's too good for that. Maybe 1 season at max IMO - that's what Bob McKenzie thinks a few nights ago on That's Hockey.

If the team is building around Rielly and Hanafin as their defense, it makes no sense to add another 5.7m LHD.
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Watched a few games during the WJCs, nothing other than that.

I sincerely doubt he'll spend 3-4 years in college, he's too good for that. Maybe 1 season at max IMO - that's what Bob McKenzie thinks a few nights ago on That's Hockey.

If the team is building around Rielly and Hanafin as their defense, it makes no sense to add another 5.7m LHD.

You could be right about Staal. I can't see Hanafin not staying until at least his JR year is over. Just my opinion.

Kreider - 3 years
Cross - 4 years
Hayes - 4 years
Hayes 2 - 4 years
Atkinson - 4 years (I believe)
I checked Schneider's BC career out yesterday - 4 years
Gaudreau - 4 years

These guys stay the distance with York.
 

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Sather may have coveted Yandle for years but I know for a fact that the whole organization had the ultimate scrabble face watching him with us. I blame ulfie. I'm sure those in the org do as well.

If you say he did what he was brought in to do and the org was pleased with him then why 2nd pp and 3rd pair? Don't say AV. That stuff is consensus based.
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Sather may have coveted Yandle for years but I know for a fact that the whole organization had the ultimate scrabble face watching him with us. I blame ulfie. I'm sure those in the org do as well.

If you say he did what he was brought in to do and the org was pleased with him then why 2nd pp and 3rd pair? Don't say AV. That stuff is consensus based.

I don't think it was a coincidence that Yandle's pp unit was by far the better, and more dynamic one, throughout the playoffs.
 

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Sather may have coveted Yandle for years but I know for a fact that the whole organization had the ultimate scrabble face watching him with us. I blame ulfie. I'm sure those in the org do as well.

If you say he did what he was brought in to do and the org was pleased with him then why 2nd pp and 3rd pair? Don't say AV. That stuff is consensus based.

Is there like any chance you were watching the wrong player?
 

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Sather may have coveted Yandle for years but I know for a fact that the whole organization had the ultimate scrabble face watching him with us. I blame ulfie. I'm sure those in the org do as well.

If you say he did what he was brought in to do and the org was pleased with him then why 2nd pp and 3rd pair? Don't say AV. That stuff is consensus based.
Because we're not the Coyotes and have more than 1-2 good players?

This guy is one of the entertaining Rangers I've seen in my short time, I don't get the flack.
 
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