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WJC: 2015 — USA Roster Talk

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Ray Ferraro said:
I have no clue what you're trying to get at with the sue us stuff but all I am saying is that young players don't typically do well in this tournament, USA has a couple of those they are relying on. Canada's forward group last year was basically 17 and 18 year olds, they didn't win a medal.
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Just because Canada can't win a medal relying on underagers doesn't mean the US can't.

And haven't I just given you three examples of American underagers in the past three years who have been leaders on their WJC teams? Hanifin compares well to Jones in 2013, Matthews compares well to Eichel in 2014, Werenski compares well to Trouba in 2012, and Eichel is, well, Eichel.

As for our 18 year olds, they just got done dominating the U18 last spring. Milano, Tuch, Eichel, and Larkin are all familiar with each other. There is a lot of past history between many of the 17-18 year olds who will be on this roster.

Besides, the 19 year old age group for the US is very weak. The on-ice leaders will come from the kids.
 
I think an 18 year old player is quite capable of making an impact in this tournament. It's definitely harder for a 17 year old though.
 
Ray Ferraro said:
I have no clue what you're trying to get at with the sue us stuff but all I am saying is that young players don't typically do well in this tournament, USA has a couple of those they are relying on. Canada's forward group last year was basically 17 and 18 year olds, they didn't win a medal.
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They haven't even picked the team let alone configured their lineup. We don't know who they're planning to rely on yet.
 
I think they're going to do good. Really good...don't want to jinx it but this is as excited I've been since that year they took it home with Jones, Gibson, Galchenyuk, and Trouba.

They're probably not quite as good as that team but they have a ton of talent
 
stokes84 said:
I don't know that Matthews is going to have a huge role. This team is stacked with older players. Honestly, I think his role will be rather limited.
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I strongly believe that Matthews will play a big role. His development curve over the past year has been insane. He was a final-minute-with-a-lead guy playing as a double underager at the U18, on a team that had Eichel, Milano, Tuch, Larkin, etc. USAH is as high on Matthews right now as they were on Jack Eichel this time last year. And I'm not sure I disagree with them.
 
stokes84 said:
I don't know that Matthews is going to have a huge role. This team is stacked with older players. Honestly, I think his role will be rather limited.
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If Matthews plays anything like he did at the summer camp he could be one of the better players on the team regardless of his age. Furthermore he's had some of his strongest games this season against the best competition the NTDP has faced (BU, Minnesota etc.) so I feel safe being optimistic about his potential impact.
 
cagney said:
If Matthews plays anything like he did at the summer camp he could be one of the better players on the team regardless of his age. Furthermore he's had some of his strongest games this season against the best competition the NTDP has faced (BU, Minnesota etc.) so I feel safe being optimistic about his potential impact.
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I too am optimistic about Mathews in this tournament. As you eluded to about the NCAA Div 1 competition, Mathews had two goals against a good Minnesota team including the game winner in O.T. I watched the game between the NTDP and Michigan and he went head to head against the likes of Werenski (I know he's the same age), Downing, and other older defenders and he was one of the best players on the ice even though it was a 7-4 NTDP loss.
 
What are the chances Wood makes the team?

It seems like everyone here is penciling him out, but is there a shot? One would think they invited him for a reason...
 
William H Bonney said:
They haven't even picked the team let alone configured their lineup. We don't know who they're planning to rely on yet.
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I'm just going with Bob McKenzie and what the majority are going with which is Eichel and Matthews as the #1 and #2.

TheJuxtaposer said:
Just because Canada can't win a medal relying on underagers doesn't mean the US can't.

And haven't I just given you three examples of American underagers in the past three years who have been leaders on their WJC teams? Hanifin compares well to Jones in 2013, Matthews compares well to Eichel in 2014, Werenski compares well to Trouba in 2012, and Eichel is, well, Eichel.

As for our 18 year olds, they just got done dominating the U18 last spring. Milano, Tuch, Eichel, and Larkin are all familiar with each other. There is a lot of past history between many of the 17-18 year olds who will be on this roster.

Besides, the 19 year old age group for the US is very weak. The on-ice leaders will come from the kids.
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USA has a chance for gold, they have a pretty good one every year so I'm not counting them out but I don't really remember a team having a 18 year old and 17 year old as their #1C and #2C and winning gold so I could ask you why would this be any different but I guess there is a first for everything (although I don't remember if this every happened).

See look what you're saying, Hanifin = Jones in 2013, Matthews = Eichel in 2014, Werenski = Troubla in 2012. All different years, never the same year.

I don't really want to get any further into this, I haven't seen these players alot but I hear this team has alot of skill so let's see how they do. I didn't want to get into too much detail just kind of note that this team is fairly young, not lacking skill though.

Mr Writer said:
Ray, you don't know what you are talking about most of the time. Sweden in 2012 had 9 underagers, 7 18 year old players and 2 17 year old players. And who took the prize that year? Give it a rest already. Your analysis of Team Canada is generally off the mark and now you are branching out to TUSA... and again off the mark...but we'll see. How about you give us your take on the Finns? not that it would be all that insightful.
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Yeah, I remember Friberg leading Sweden in scoring, Collberg who was a 17 year old did well but Forsberg didn't. This situation isn't very similar because Sweden had 19 year olds that were on their top lines, the only thing similar is how many 17 and 18 year olds the teams have but USA (by the sounds of it) will have Eichel and Matthews as their 1 and 2 punch. I will say that, Eichel and Matthews are sounding like "superstars" in the NHL.

And what do you know about hockey? All I read from you is whining and *****ing about hockey people better than you.
 
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Zip15 said:
Disappointed that Bailey didn't get at least a look. I think he's improved his PK and defensive games that, with his size and puck protection abilities, he could've slotted in on the 4th line or as the 13th forward, and moved up if someone was being unproductive.

Oh well. Compher and Fasching will make the team, so not all is lost for Sabres prospects on Team USA.
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Yeah but why Miles wood? In no way is he better than Bailey.
 
Forward group is extremely well balanced, definitely can go toe-to-toe

what's the defense looking like?

Demko > Canadian goalies as well.
 
Ray Ferraro said:
I'm just going with Bob McKenzie and what the majority are going with which is Eichel and Matthews as the #1 and #2.

USA has a chance for gold, they have a pretty good one every year so I'm not counting them out but I don't really remember a team having a 18 year old and 17 year old as their #1C and #2C and winning gold so I could ask you why would this be any different but I guess there is a first for everything (although I don't remember if this every happened).

See look what you're saying, Hanifin = Jones in 2013, Matthews = Eichel in 2014, Werenski = Troubla in 2012. All different years, never the same year.

I don't really want to get any further into this, I haven't seen these players alot but I hear this team has alot of skill so let's see how they do. I didn't want to get into too much detail just kind of note that this team is fairly young, not lacking skill though.

Yeah, I remember Friberg leading Sweden in scoring, Collberg who was a 17 year old did well but Forsberg didn't. This situation isn't very similar because Sweden had 19 year olds that were on their top lines, the only thing similar is how many 17 and 18 year olds the teams have but USA (by the sounds of it) will have Eichel and Matthews as their 1 and 2 punch. I will say that, Eichel and Matthews are sounding like "superstars" in the NHL.

And what do you know about hockey? All I read from you is whining and *****ing about hockey people better than you.
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Yet McDavid (a 17 year old) coming off a broken hand and no game action in 6 weeks will be our number 1 center and will excel according to you. just curious as to what you base that on...anything more than just hope?

and not the place for it, but if you want to create a thread defending the record of HC since 2010 (the point were people were promoted or new hires arrived at the POE) then I'll be more than interested to hear that defense of HC, the POE and the absolutely abysmal record since 2010....but somehow I doubt it will be any more insightful than your X's and O's Team Canada, Team USA and Team fill in the blanks commentary...
 
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Mr Writer said:
Yet McDavid (a 17 year old) coming off a broken hand and no game action in 6 weeks will be our number 1 center and will excel according to you. just curious as to what you base that on...anything more than just hope?

[/B]and not the place for it, but if you want to create a thread defending the record of HC since 2010 (the point were people were promoted or new hires arrived at the POE) then I'll be more than interested to hear that defense of HC, the POE and the absolutely abysmal record since 2010....but somehow I doubt it will be any more insightful than your X's and O's Team Canada, Team USA and Team fill in the blanks commentary...
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Eichel and McDavid can probably do well as #1C don't know about Matthews.

Not going to get this off-topic.
 
SabresBillsBuffalo said:
Yeah but why Miles wood? In no way is he better than Bailey.
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You've seen Wood play?
SanDogBrewin said:
http://www.bceagles.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/120214aaa.html

"Santini scored a power play goal in an 8-0 rout of Germany on Dec. 29, 2014, in last year’s tournament. The Mahopac, N.Y., native suffered a wrist injury on Oct. 25 and has not played since, but is targeting a return date around the World Junior Championship."

Only update I could find. So basically it is still a wait n see.
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Predicting the future? Nice. :)
 
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