WC: 2015 — Team Sweden
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I really like Anton Lander's progression the last year. Things seem to come together for him now. Strong two-way forward.
VictorLustig
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We lack a good top line. Forsberg has been pretty underwhelming these last two games.
Good to see OEL is our best skater every game, like he should be. Enroth saved us this time though.
Edit: Excellent jinx. Still think Forsberg & his line has to play better. The Lindström line too.
Good to see OEL is our best skater every game, like he should be. Enroth saved us this time though.
Edit: Excellent jinx. Still think Forsberg & his line has to play better. The Lindström line too.
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I'm sure some other hab fan might have asked this, but just randomly if Montreal was out, would De La Rose be on the team, or would he just be more of the same ?
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Chimpradamus
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Hedman would've been 2nd guy on D (only Karlsson was ahead of him, that scratch was an abomination!) and we wouldn't have won gold in 2006 without Holmström. And then there was Rodin on D... who played like two games before even BÅG realized he wasn't good enough.It's always about the 25th guy
It's about the Swedish coaches and their inability to pick the best players. Those weak links do count and ignoring Hedman was downright blasphemy.
He has been progress nice and have been ok in this tournament so far, but he is not a that first line center we need. I would like to see Lindholm being giving a chance in that role togehter with Eriksson and Forsberg.
Pominville Knows
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Who is this you're talking about?
When it comes to Hedman i do agree with you. Mårts should have been fired just becouse of that move. Just like BÅG becouse of peak Holmström, then he would not have got to do Samuelsson a sour one either.
Chimpradamus
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He was so bad, I even repressed his name. Ronnie Sundin. Was in the lineup from the start, to the surprise of everyone. Even BÃ…G couldn't defend one of his political favourites and he was scratched for the rest of the tournament.
Mårts on not even asking Brodin for an invite: "Han kunde varit vår bäste back i VM, men jag kände vi måste lita på de människor vi har här. Det var dags att ta ett beslut, säger Pär Mårts till Sportbladet." Mårts is so hyped up on "locker room atmosphere" it's not even funny. The Söderberg/ Lagerbäck mentality: "We can't bench Allbäck now, he's played so bad his confidence will be shot." Yes, a player's feelings is more important than the bloody world cup tournament.
Swedish national coaches are more like kindergarden teachers than anything else. Mårts even admits Brodin could've been the best defenseman in the lineup, but he doesn't even ask him. Because he has to trust the players already on the roster. WTF?! Because yeah, the defense has been soo stellar so far! So he brings in Marcus Thuresson instead of Brodin, because "... alla måste få tillhöra."
Let Mårts coach the team, but for the love of everything holy, don't let him manage the roster. You can't allow a dagispappa to do that. Mårts job is to win the tournament, but that's apparently only his secondary objective. First objective is "myshörna".
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Blasphemy is a good thing IMO and in this case a poor choice of word. However not picking Hedman was downright ********.
Chimpradamus
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Hedman had a fantastic season in 2014 as well, but MÃ¥rts and his staff didn't get the memo.
johnny_rudeboy
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Who say that OEL would have played with Ekholm if Brodin comes in? Either way, I am not very impressed by Granberg so far. I think all other d-men in the team we have are better than him both defensivly and offensivly.
When it comes to the olympics, one should say to MÃ¥rts defence, that he did take us to a final, without Sedin and Zetterberg. So you can not complain about the results which is what matters in the end.
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Spot on, it's a terrible mentality that breeds mediocrity. I thought we were supposed to be past all this in Tre Kronor with Boustedt's reforms and putting winning at the centre of everything ahead of "participation", but apparently not.
That Allbäck / Zlatan example still makes me rage.
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So much whining and in this thread, I got a headace reading thru some of it.
I think MÃ¥rts is doing a good job. I bet this new "talent- skill- offense first" generation of players are not the easiest to work whit, on and of the ice.
The games always seem extra exiting and entertaining when SWE is playing nowadays. Take a look at the defensive borefest that is a Team Finland game and you fall asleep in notime in comparison.
I think MÃ¥rts is doing a good job. I bet this new "talent- skill- offense first" generation of players are not the easiest to work whit, on and of the ice.
The games always seem extra exiting and entertaining when SWE is playing nowadays. Take a look at the defensive borefest that is a Team Finland game and you fall asleep in notime in comparison.
TheTwelfth
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MÃ¥rts is a fantastic coach, but should not be picking the team. Boustedt should have overruled his Edler/Oduya/Tallinder selections ahead of Hedman/Brodin for the OG. The Edler selection bothered me even more than the Tallinder one, since MÃ¥rts claimed that he was due some loyalty back for coming to the WHC 2013 and getting suspended...
No it was not. Marts said that Hedman was a player who needed to play big minutes on the top pair to be useful and that it would not be useful at all to bring him in as a nr 7 or 8 D because that is not a role that fits Hedman.
Hedman replied later that he would have been perfectly ok with playing low minutes since it would have been a dream come true to be in the Olympics.
What I am saying is that for Marts it was not between Hedman and Tallinder. It was basically between Karlsson, OEL and Hedman, and he chose Karlsson and OEL.
Edler was great in the tourney and was integral with the pp for the Sedins who Edler always is on the first pp unit with. If he had been bad one might critise loyalty, but when loyal players returns and actually plays well? No you are wrong in that respect, hard to get that you think that was worse than Tallinder - really give your head a shake on that one.
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Agree. I thought Edler was fantastic during the short period he played. Hedman lost his spot after his bad WC. The same people critizising MÃ¥rts for not picking Hedman would also critizise him for picking Hedman, if he had a bad tournament. Personally I find Hedman a bit overrated in this thread, he wasn't THAT good back then so I don't see this as a very big deal. MÃ¥rts went with the chemistry tactic so three pairings were already set, and they did not include Hedman. I'm fine with him bringing a locker room guy as the 7th D, lot's of guys could fill that role. I personally wanted Brodin over Hedman.
No spot for him.
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