2014 Trade Deadline Thread II (All General Trade Talk/Proposals/Blog Rumors in here)

[CentreKeeper12]

I think the only question with Gabby besides where will he end up, is when will he go. Will it be before the game tonight or after?

 

[Xoggz22]

You do realize that Nikitin is going to be a RFA and that you'll probably get similiar value in the offseason? Hell, you could very well get close enough for Gaborik's rights.

These guys aren't franchise players. You are making mountains out of mole-hills here.

I'm looking at a hockey deal for Nikitin, either now or the off season. Gaborik; another hockey deal at the deadline if I have another deal lined up and I need his cap space.

Otherwise, I'm all in for a playoff run.

Nikitin is a UFA after the season, not RFA. We lose him for nothing if not signed or traded before July 1st.

 

[Jackets16]

To me, half a roster qualifies as "numerous." I know, too, that you stressed no playoff experience, but many of them have very limited experience.

So, then our roster has numerous players with playoff experience, right?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

To me, half a roster qualifies as "numerous." I know, too, that you stressed no playoff experience, but many of them have very limited experience.

So, then our roster has numerous players with playoff experience, right?

If only we knew which application was common sense.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Hey, just popping over from the LA board. How would you guys feel about:

Gaborik (retaining 20%) and Prout

for

Greene, Vey, Oilers 2014 3rd. Plus conditional 5th if Clbs doesn't re-sign Greene, upgraded to conditional 1st if LA re-signs Gaborik and Greene is not re-signed BUT if both teams re-sign Gaborik and Greene respectively, no picks are exchanged.

At its core its a swap of UFA's, LA gets more offense, Columbus get more defense (which from chatter on the mains I think you were interested in). I don't know how highly Prout is valued, but for us he'd be a #7 for at least this season, and he's inexpensive going forward. Greene I THINK is what Prout may become, with tons of leadership and playoff experience, so if I'm right there would be incentive from Columbus to keep Greene around as a second or third pairing guy.

You guys get Vey to either slot in at C or RW, or put him on the farm if you have too many bodies.

A lot of this revolves around how good Prout is viewed to be, and I wasn't sure, so I attempted to balance it out with a draft pick, plus more if we re-sign Gaborik and you don't re-sign Greene.

How'd I do? Would love some feedback.

 

[SuperGenius]

Hey, just popping over from the LA board. How would you guys feel about:

Gaborik (retaining 20%) and Prout

for

Greene, Vey, Oilers 2014 3rd. Plus conditional 5th if Clbs doesn't re-sign Greene, upgraded to conditional 1st if LA re-signs Gaborik and Greene is not re-signed BUT if both teams re-sign Gaborik and Greene respectively, no picks are exchanged.

At its core its a swap of UFA's, LA gets more offense, Columbus get more defense (which from chatter on the mains I think you were interested in). I don't know how highly Prout is valued, but for us he'd be a #7 for at least this season, and he's inexpensive going forward. Greene I THINK is what Prout may become, with tons of leadership and playoff experience, so if I'm right there would be incentive from Columbus to keep Greene around as a second or third pairing guy.

You guys get Vey to either slot in at C or RW, or put him on the farm if you have too many bodies.

A lot of this revolves around how good Prout is viewed to be, and I wasn't sure, so I attempted to balance it out with a draft pick, plus more if we re-sign Gaborik and you don't re-sign Greene.

How'd I do? Would love some feedback.

Not really interested in Greene. Would rather have Prout, even with his inexperience. Not interested in retaining any of Gaborik's salary either. Vey adds to a glut of F, particularly at C or RW.

not the right deal, really.

 

[Jackets16]

Hey, just popping over from the LA board. How would you guys feel about:

Gaborik (retaining 20%) and Prout

for

Greene, Vey, Oilers 2014 3rd. Plus conditional 5th if Clbs doesn't re-sign Greene, upgraded to conditional 1st if LA re-signs Gaborik and Greene is not re-signed BUT if both teams re-sign Gaborik and Greene respectively, no picks are exchanged.

At its core its a swap of UFA's, LA gets more offense, Columbus get more defense (which from chatter on the mains I think you were interested in). I don't know how highly Prout is valued, but for us he'd be a #7 for at least this season, and he's inexpensive going forward. Greene I THINK is what Prout may become, with tons of leadership and playoff experience, so if I'm right there would be incentive from Columbus to keep Greene around as a second or third pairing guy.

You guys get Vey to either slot in at C or RW, or put him on the farm if you have too many bodies.

A lot of this revolves around how good Prout is viewed to be, and I wasn't sure, so I attempted to balance it out with a draft pick, plus more if we re-sign Gaborik and you don't re-sign Greene.

How'd I do? Would love some feedback.

It may be okay if you just look at value, but it doesn't really help us. I'd rather have Prout than Greene. The rest doesn't really do anything for us.

 

[blahblah]

Nikitin is a UFA after the season, not RFA. We lose him for nothing if not signed or traded before July 1st.

Meh, I thought he was 25. Either way, nothing isn't that big of a deal because the something isn't that big of a deal. We like to pretend these guys are worth more than what they are.

 

[pete goegan]

So, then our roster has numerous players with playoff experience, right?

Correct.

Unfortunately, that's not enough players, nor do they have enough experience, for me to be confident in how they will perform under the playoff pressure.

 

[EspenK]

I don't see the value now or for his rights prior to UFA being all that different. I'd just as soon keep him and see what happens. Even if you miss out on an asset, you gain potential goals and impact for the rest of the season. That's more important to me than the likely player + pick that he'd net. Neither of these types of picks or players help us now. Our reward for keeping him and not signing him is maybe a 3rd, maybe nothing, but we do gain considerable cap space - so even nothing is something.

I think he is worth more now because the acquiring team gets to have him actually play for sure. For a guy like Nikitin maybe we get a 2nd now and a 3rd later? Either way I agree that keeping him is the best alternative unless the deal is too good to pass up, which a 2nd isn't enough.

 

[blahblah]

It may be okay if you just look at value, but it doesn't really help us. I'd rather have Prout than Greene. The rest doesn't really do anything for us.

The proposal is odd; but Vey would be a pretty good addition and worthy of a loaner deal involving Gaborik (the Gaborik we have this season). Vey is basically ready and pretty much fits what we are doing as a team.

There are others I would prefer over Green; but he's also a pretty decent player.

With Gaborik's cap hit and the lack of teams with cap space; that might be one of the better deals you'd see at the deadline. Prout would have to be removed from my perspective. He's probably going to be every bit as good as Vey in the long run. To finish this off, from the CBJ side, you'd probably want to include a lesser farm system player. Much lesser.

 

[Kev22]

Some interesting things going on today. Cory Conacher and Joe Corvo on to waivers. Mike Weaver traded to Montreal for a 2015 5th. Things are starting to roll now, hopefully something happens so that we can all stop *****ing at each other.

 

[blahblah]

Some interesting things going on today. Cory Conacher and Joe Corvo on to waivers. Mike Weaver traded to Montreal for a 2015 5th. Things are starting to roll now, hopefully something happens so that we can all stop *****ing at each other.

haha, we'll ***** even if/when something happens.

 

[DJA]

I'm hearing some JJ to Boston chatter on Twitter. Anyone else hear this?

 

[Fro]

i would like to know more...

 

[EspenK]

I'm hearing some JJ to Boston chatter on Twitter. Anyone else hear this?

No but from Boston's perspective I think it makes sense. from ours, depends on the return. With Tyutin & Murray out though I think it is highly unlikely.

 

[DJA]

No but from Boston's perspective I think it makes sense. from ours, depends on the return. With Tyutin & Murray out though I think it is highly unlikely.

Unless we're acquiring another dman I think you're right. However Ehrhoff is still out there...

 

[Kev22]

Mike Cammalleri looks like he's going to be dealt. Is there any fit with him here? He fits a position of need (LW) and he might be a better fit in the top six than Gaborik.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I'm hearing some JJ to Boston chatter on Twitter. Anyone else hear this?

Looks like it's all coming from a single source, unless I'm missing some stuff. Speculation.

 

[Samkow]

I'm hearing some JJ to Boston chatter on Twitter. Anyone else hear this?

I think they're referring to the singer Jack Johnson playing a show in Boston in May. Not sure why they're saying rumor though as it's been confirmed.

http://jackjohnsonmusic.com/tour/detail/2014_05_23_boston_calling_festival

 

[Kev22]

I think they're referring to the singer Jack Johnson playing a show in Boston in May. Not sure why they're saying rumor though as it's been confirmed.

http://jackjohnsonmusic.com/tour/detail/2014_05_23_boston_calling_festival

This is a new low for HF.

 

[Jackets16]

The proposal is odd; but Vey would be a pretty good addition and worthy of a loaner deal involving Gaborik (the Gaborik we have this season). Vey is basically ready and pretty much fits what we are doing as a team.

There are others I would prefer over Green; but he's also a pretty decent player.

With Gaborik's cap hit and the lack of teams with cap space; that might be one of the better deals you'd see at the deadline. Prout would have to be removed from my perspective. He's probably going to be every bit as good as Vey in the long run. To finish this off, from the CBJ side, you'd probably want to include a lesser farm system player. Much lesser.

I wouldn't mind having Vey. I just think we can do better if we traded Gaborik and Prout.

 

[Jackets16]

I'm hearing some JJ to Boston chatter on Twitter. Anyone else hear this?

I don't pay attention to twitter when it comes to trade rumors, unless it is a proven guy tweeting it.

 

[Samkow]

This is a new low for HF.

I typed in Jack Johnson Boston. That's all I saw.

https://twitter.com/search?q=jack johnson boston&src=typd

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I think they're referring to the singer Jack Johnson playing a show in Boston in May. Not sure why they're saying rumor though as it's been confirmed.

http://jackjohnsonmusic.com/tour/detail/2014_05_23_boston_calling_festival

Oh man that's funny.