2014 Olympics Thread (2/12-2/23)

[Robert]

From a fan's point of view, I really hope that Canada and the US make it through to face each other in the semis. Naturally, I'm pulling for Canada in that game, but regardless, I'm hoping the winner faces Russia in the finals. Both games would provide great theater.

Agree.... I'm hoping Russia plays for the gold... If Canada plays them I'm all in for my comrade Bob!!!

 

[Robert]

OT... fyi, baby sitters these days get around 10 bucks an hour, when I was a kid we got 50 cents...

That said, the NBC Olympic commercial for Chevy Tahoe and the baby sitter who upped her pay based on the value of Moms car is priceless!!!! lol

$60 bucks for baby sitting around 3 hours is a job I want!

 

[Doug19]

Jeez,

It sounds like if Columbus had a team in 1980 and Vladimir Tretiak was the team's goalie everyone here would have rooted for the Red Army team in the miracle on ice game.

I'm honestly surprised by the amount of people here who put individual player dislikes above pride in your country. So what if you don't personally like TJ Oshie, Dustin Brown, or Patrick Kane or whoever. People can't put that aside for a little pride in your country?

Country pride? Give me a break, this isn't a ****ing foreign invasion it is NHL hockey players taking a couple of weeks off to play as there own nationality. Team USA has to many bad characters for me to be "prideful" in them as a team. NHL isn't a traditional Olympic sport IMO, therefore I don't really treat it fan wise as one.

 

[Robert]

Country pride? Give me a break, this isn't a ****ing foreign invasion it is NHL hockey players taking a couple of weeks off to play as there own nationality. Team USA has to many bad characters for me to be "prideful" in them as a team. NHL isn't a traditional Olympic sport IMO, therefore I don't really treat it fan wise as one.

How about our American women hockey players who are facing Canada's women on Thursday for the gold medal? Do our USA women have to many bad characters for you to be "prideful" in as well??

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Anyone have any idea why Sergei Mozyakin isn't on the Russian hockey team?

I would have thought he would have been in since he's pretty much a star player in the KHL and was the leagues scoring leader last year.

I think I read its because he doesn't perform well on the national stage.

I went to google him to see who he was/look at his stats and noticed that he was drafted by Columbus in 2002. I wasn't a fan of the team back then. Any idea what happened? Didn't want to sign with Columbus or did he suck back then and Columbus said "see you later"?

I also think I read that Doug tried to get him to come over during the summer of 2004 and he considered it all summer before deciding to stay, and Doug never tried again.

 

[Sore Loser]

Mozyakin was thought by many to be a first round talent, but it was pretty much clear from the beginning that he wouldn't be making the jump to North America. A shot at a potential home run by Doug MacLean ... actually, one of his more understandable questionable draft moves.

 

[joshjoshjosh]

Nevermind. My bad.

 

[Samkow]

Surprised to wake up and see Bob starting. Varlamov played well the last game.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Radulov is dominating.

 

[blahblah]

Because not everybody agrees with you? There are to many people on that US roster that I loathe to ever cheer for that hockey team to win anything. Every other sport I'm cool with cheering USA, but not for those pukes on the team USA hockey team. They can lose out of the tournament the next game and I'd be happy.

Jeebus. You don't have to cheer for individual players to support your team. There have been players I've disliked on the Jackets over the years, however that has never stopped me for cheering for my team. I despise Backes with a fiery passion (as a player, but don't know him personally obviously), but if he was a Jacket I would still cheer our team.

Good grief, this has to be some of the dumbest **** ever. Save that crap for individual competitions if you need to.

You are free, obviously, to cheer for who you want for. I understand where you are coming from, even if I think it's highly irrational. All I expect is that people like you understand my position without being confused by it.

It's fascination how apathetic people are to simple patriotism these days. For you out there spewing nationalism, why can't we simply hit the patriotism bar shall we?

 

[blahblah]

Radulov is dominating.

Really like him as a player, too bad he didn't hang around the NHL.

 

[Nordique]

So what you are saying and based on recent history, it takes a national tragedy such as 9/11 for this country to act patriotic?

Take government and politics out of the discussion, doesn't something like the US Olympic team provide something to take national pride in?

It's fascination how apathetic people are to simple patriotism these days. For you out there spewing nationalism, why can't we simply hit the patriotism bar shall we?

I think we have different ideas of what patriotism is. My patriotic ideals have nothing to do with a hockey game.

End of the day, this is a beautiful country when we are all free to speak our mind and cheer for who we like.

 

[Doug19]

Don't really understand how my view is crap or unrealistic. I don't like the players, so I don't root for them. Like I said, I don't even view Hockey as a real Olympic sport in the sense that I view all the other sports. Hockey in the Olympics is played by NHLers, I will never root against my teams players. If Dubinsky and Johnson were on team USA, I probably would have rooted for USA, but there isn't one player outside of Kesler on that team that I like or am interested in, so therefore I don't care in the least how they do in the Olympics.

 

[Nordique]

Don't really understand how my view is crap or unrealistic. I don't like the players, so I don't root for them. Like I said, I don't even view Hockey as a real Olympic sport in the sense that I view all the other sports. Hockey in the Olympics is played by NHLers, I will never root against my teams players. If Dubinsky and Johnson were on team USA, I probably would have rooted for USA, but there isn't one player outside of Kesler on that team that I like or am interested in, so therefore I don't care in the least how they do in the Olympics.

This is what happens when professional atheletes take part in the Olympics. My interest in the NHL and the CBJ far outweigh any interest I have in these Olympics. I care more about the women's team winning the gold than I do about the men's. I'd take a Stanley Cup any day of the week over Olympic Gold for the men's hockey team.

I suspect this will be the last Olympics the NHL allows players to participate in, and I never thought I'd say it, but I'm glad.

 

[Cash for Nash]

Jeebus. You don't have to cheer for individual players to support your team. There have been players I've disliked on the Jackets over the years, however that has never stopped me for cheering for my team. I despise Backes with a fiery passion (as a player, but don't know him personally obviously), but if he was a Jacket I would still cheer our team.

Good grief, this has to be some of the dumbest **** ever. Save that crap for individual competitions if you need to.

You are free, obviously, to cheer for who you want for. I understand where you are coming from, even if I think it's highly irrational. All I expect is that people like you understand my position without being confused by it.

It's fascination how apathetic people are to simple patriotism these days. For you out there spewing nationalism, why can't we simply hit the patriotism bar shall we?

Well. There isn't that sense of nationalism/identity that there was prior to "globalization" and the Soviet empire crumbling. That's just a fact. And yes--those factors affect the level of "patriotism" expressed by some US citizens.

I respect your opinion. And don't really disagree. However, my American pride/patriotism has been tempered.

 

[blahblah]

I think we have different ideas of what patriotism is. My patriotic ideals have nothing to do with a hockey game.

End of the day, this is a beautiful country when we are all free to speak our mind and cheer for who we like.

Let's not make this into something complicated. Patriotism is simply showing pride in your country. Supporting your nations teams and athletes is a common expression of that pride. Tossing away the support simply based on a personal dislike of some of the members of a team to the point in cheering for another country puts your patriotism in question.

The the Olympics; Bob, Tyutin, Nikitin, and AA are not represent Columbus. They are representing Russia; therefore you really couldn't claim some form of patriotism for Columbus OH.

Not really complicated. I'm not saying these people aren't patriotic; I'm just saying they aren't showing it by rooting for Russia over the US because they don't like Oshie (who by all accounts is a fairly classy guy off the ice), as an example. Personal dislike for someone you probably haven't met (outside of, perhaps, and autograph) probably doesn't meet the level of criteria to start actively rooting against them and not supporting your home team.

I'm not really all that concerned about their personal views on the matter, just don't try and make it sound like this hard concept. If you (not you personally, but those with the other view) sleep better thinking that it doesn't make you less of a patriot, then you are free to live in denial. Not really intending it as judgement, there are things about me that probably make me less of a patriot as well. However I'm not going to try and justify those views as perfectly patriotic.

Peace.

 

[v3rs3]

I'm not rooting against the US, I'm rooting for the Jackets. If Gaborik was healthy, I'd be rooting for him on Slovakia, too. I'm not into sports jingoism, I can easily separate support for my country and those who serve it from those who merely play games under its flag. To each his own.

This is basically my thoughts. I jumped out of my seat when tyutin scored in the 3rd, just like I would had it of been an NHL game. My CBJ fandom outweighs team USA. Plus I'm personally not happy with how the team was constructed.

It's a game, not a war.

 

[cbjgirl]

This is basically my thoughts. I jumped out of my seat when tyutin scored in the 3rd, just like I would had it of been an NHL game. My CBJ fandom outweighs team USA. Plus I'm personally not happy with how the team was constructed.

It's a game, not a war.

I'm with you and Pete on this one.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Let's not make this into something complicated.

No one is making it so until...

Patriotism is simply showing pride in your country. Supporting your nations teams and athletes is a common expression of that pride. Tossing away the support simply based on a personal dislike of some of the members of a team to the point in cheering for another country puts your patriotism in question.

...someone puts qualifications on another person's opinion/perspective.

Not really complicated. I'm not saying these people aren't patriotic; I'm just saying they aren't showing it by rooting for Russia over the US because they don't like Oshie (who by all accounts is a fairly classy guy off the ice), as an example. Personal dislike for someone you probably haven't met (outside of, perhaps, and autograph) probably doesn't meet the level of criteria to start actively rooting against them and not supporting your home team.

According to you. But not necessarily to all.

I'm not really all that concerned about their personal views on the matter, just don't try and make it sound like this hard concept. If you (not you personally, but those with the other view) sleep better thinking that it doesn't make you less of a patriot, then you are free to live in denial. Not really intending it as judgement, there are things about me that probably make me less of a patriot as well. However I'm not going to try and justify those views as perfectly patriotic.

Seems like you are concerned about it, as you - and others - continue posting about it. And every time I see someone telling someone else how they should think, it's someone telling someone else they're not patriotic. Is that the American way?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Root for USA. Root for Canada. Root for CBJ players. Root against Ovy/Crosby/whomever. Root for Slovenia or the Swiss. You have your reasons, and they're yours (and mine are mine, such as they are). Don't make me no nevermind.

Here's a for-instance:
Watching the 2-man bobsled last night (managed to not see the results before watching on network TV), I was glad to see the veteran Russian, who never won a gold medal, win, even though the US team was in medal contention. I suppose under some circumstances, I'd have pulled for the US sled, but that driver had already won a gold medal in his career. I'm still glad he finished on the podium, but it didn't bother me in the least that he finished behind a deserving champion from another country.

Point: I reserve the right to root for whom I want on a case-by-case basis, with the reasoning being totally of my own choosing, even if it's merely a whim. Sometimes that reasoning is "because this competitor/this team is from the USA." Sometimes it's another reason, like with the ice dancers. Glad they won - that they are a US team is, I guess, a bonus for my patriotism.

 

[pete goegan]

Bob with the 22 shot shutout!

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Root for USA. Root for Canada. Root for CBJ players. Root against Ovy/Crosby/whomever. Root for Slovenia or the Swiss. Root for the Jamaican bobsledders. You have your reasons, and they're yours. Don't make me no nevermind.

That's just un-American...

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Bob with the 22 shot shutout!

Way to go Bob!

 

[Nordique]

It's a game, not a war.

Short and sweet, but right on the money.

Tossing away the support simply based on a personal dislike of some of the members of a team to the point in cheering for another country puts your patriotism in question.

If you knew anything about me in real life, you'd feel very silly for saying that.

 

[FANonymous]

If you knew anything about me in real life, you'd feel very silly for saying that.

Do you own multiple pairs of truck nuts?