2014 Olympics Thread (2/12-2/23)

[Iron Balls McGinty]

You're becoming pathetic in your Quick defense.
How do you know what the refs were discussing?
30 seconds? Are you bad at time measuring?
Are you saying he moved the net and didn't know it? How is that possible? Is he Pejorative Slured?
And I just watched replay and he pointed at the net right away. I don't know where did you see him skating around with his head down, that might have been after his conversation with the ref.


OFF COURSE it's according to ONE player. He's THE ONLY ONE on the Russian team who ever played with Quick.
Are you saying that Voynov is lying? That would be the dumbest lie ever. Sooner or later he would have been called out by all the other LA players and by Quick himself . But no one said a word regarding his comments.
Your arguments are ridiculous. But you can believe whatever you want.

Let's be real here, I GUARANTEE you every professional goalie knows how to do this so don't act like he is a dirty player. Bob would do it himself if he knew it could help them win. Pro athletes in every position and every sport know how to fudge the rules to their advantage. It can be moving the net, it can be diving to draw a call, it can be a multitude of things. It can even be a little snot on the baseball when the umpire isn't looking.

With that being said, I think you are a little over the top in your persecution of Jonathan Quick. I see no evidence he did this on purpose. It's a bad coincidence. It's bad luck for Russia. And its ultimately a bad rule considering it would have still been a goal by the NHL rule book.

It cost Russia the game but sometimes ***** happens. I've come to live with this as a CBJ fan.

 

[Jackets16]

Here's my take on the game.

The USA beat Russia in a game that ultimately doesn't really mean that much. Who cares about anything else.

 

[Sore Loser]

I get sick of hearing fans base a win or loss on one poor call. The game is 60 minutes long (and, in this case, longer) ... play better for the entire game, and you'll win regardless of the calls.

It goes both ways in every game. There are missed calls all around for every team, and there are always poor calls that are made both ways too. But, if you want to win a hockey game, stop playing the blame game, band together, and persevere.

Get over it.

 

[fox2usp]

Here's my take. In the video, Quick obviously knocks the net off. He either does it by accident or is very good at doing this because he never looks down or reacts to it at all. Voynov claims Quick practices to dislodge the net back home in LA. Since this would have been been a good goal in the NHL, there would be no advantage to practice doing this for NHL play. Quick practices this maneuver, according to Voynov, for the slim chance he can unleash his well practiced art in International competition and steal a game. Of course, his coaches in the NHL are co-conspirators because they allow him to practice this maneuver and they don't care about Delay of Game penalties or sportsmanship. Yeah, not buying it. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

 

[EspenK]

Here's my take. In the video, Quick obviously knocks the net off. He either does it by accident or is very good at doing this because he never looks down or reacts to it at all. Voynov claims Quick practices to dislodge the net back home in LA. Since this would have been been a good goal in the NHL, there would be no advantage to practice doing this for NHL play. Quick practices this maneuver, according to Voynov, for the slim chance he can unleash his well practiced art in International competition and steal a game. Of course, his coaches in the NHL are co-conspirators because they allow him to practice this maneuver and they don't care about Delay of Game penalties or sportsmanship. Yeah, not buying it. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

You forgot that he has it down to such a science that the net is dislodged by just the slightest bit so that it is not noticeable until a goal is scored and Quick points it out.

 

[major major]

I have no idea whether knocking the net off was accidental or not, but that sort of thing is very much within the bounds of sportsmanship as most pros define it. I'm not talking about Lady Byng sportsmanship, but rather the bounds of the game that encompass embellishment, rough stuff, etc... Why would anyone be surprised if Quick at some point practiced knocking the net off? That's a part of his job.

Also Russia would have won the game if Quick hadn't knocked his net off. Sounds like something people would complain about on a message board.

 

[fox2usp]

You forgot that he has it down to such a science that the net is dislodged by just the slightest bit so that it is not noticeable until a goal is scored and Quick points it out.

That's all part of his net displacement wizardry and International competition conspiracy.

 

[major major]

You forgot that he has it down to such a science that the net is dislodged by just the slightest bit so that it is not noticeable until a goal is scored and Quick points it out.

Again I don't know if it was intentional, but the more defensible presumption that some folks are making is that Quick intended to dislodge the net, not that he intended for the dislodging to be undiscovered for so long. Goalies sometimes dislodge nets to end dangerous scoring chances, this is really not that unusual.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Why doesn't Nike sell these USA 1960 replica jerseys? I would love to have one but I can't ever find one. I know they sell one similar on the USA Hockey website but its actually the 2011 Buffalo World Junior jersey with Buffalo on the chest patch and not USA.

I've seen tons of Chinese knockoffs but they never seem to put the name in the right place on the back.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

That Quick might have done this on purpose isn't cool but, as others have said, isn't all that unusual.

That he's so poor at something he apparently practices is, because the net barely came off, to the point where not only did he not notice it, but neither did the officials. If Quick purposefully dislodged his net, it would have been with the intention of stopping play - right away. Like fox said, it's so highly improbable that the intent was to barely dislodge the net just in case play continued, the opposing team scored and it could be waved off, as to not be worth considering.

So, I'm fine with being upset with Quick if you think he dislodged the net on purpose. But not if you're holding him responsible for the disallowed goal. That's on the officials.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

No Bob for Russia against Slovakia today.

 

[Dr. Fire]

The RBar made the cut on Yahoo Sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olymp...oshie-s-shootout-winner--video-090728439.html

 

[joshjoshjosh]

The RBar made the cut on Yahoo Sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olymp...oshie-s-shootout-winner--video-090728439.html

I love how the flag pops up in the frame seemingly out of nowhere

 

[EDM]

People in the R-Bar cheering like that for Joshi to beat Bob?

 

[Jaxs]

People in the R-Bar cheering like that for Joshi to beat Bob?

Damn those hockey fans. I suppose nationalism is dead.

 

[Nordique]

Just watched the USA-RUS game. Wow, what a game. USA was fortunate Ovie was hitting posts, and the rest of the sharpshooters weren't on target aside from Datsyuk. There were a couple of fire drills in defensive zone where pucks were so close to getting behind Quick.

The CBJ Russians all played well. I feel for Bob, but he will be fine for the one who thinks that will affect his NHL game.

The IIHF may want to rethink some of their rules. Running out the same shooter after three rounds is odd, bush league more like. The net off of the moorings was bad, I didn't realize the rule was different than the NHL rule

As far as who to root for earlier in this thread, go USA. I can hate players when they play against the CBJ, yes Backes and Brown I'm talking about you, I can also look at the front of the jersey when team USA is playing!

Yes, I feel the IIHF needs to get in touch with the situation. Oshie should not be allowed to shoot more than once, stupid rule imo. The disallowed Tyutin goal should have counted, I'd be pissed if I was Russian too.

All of that being said, go USA, bring home the gold

 

[cbjgirl]

One thing about the net problem... they need to make the plastic post things a different color than the net frame. It would be very hard to see from a distance since they were both red. I think the NHL ones are yellow. A splash of yellow where there shouldn't be any, would have a better chance of being spotted.

 

[bizzz*]

Another controversial goal. The puck lies on the top of the net, Nash hits the net with his stick, the puck jumps to the Rask's back and goes in. They called it a high sticking, even though Nash's stick didn't touch the puck.

 

[Timeless Winter]

The RBar made the cut on Yahoo Sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olymp...oshie-s-shootout-winner--video-090728439.html

Holy crap.

 

[NotWendell]

I get sick of hearing fans base a win or loss on one poor call. The game is 60 minutes long (and, in this case, longer) ... play better for the entire game, and you'll win regardless of the calls.

It goes both ways in every game. There are missed calls all around for every team, and there are always poor calls that are made both ways too. But, if you want to win a hockey game, stop playing the blame game, band together, and persevere.

Get over it.

If the Kings hadn't have had those extra 2.2 seconds....

 

[Dr. Fire]

Looks like Varlamov has won the starting job for Russia. Slovakia is no USA, but he did pitch the shut-out.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Another controversial goal. The puck lies on the top of the net, Nash hits the net with his stick, the puck jumps to the Rask's back and goes in. They called it a high sticking, even though Nash's stick didn't touch the puck.

to be honest, I think Nash touched the puck with a high stick before it got to the net, that's how it ended up on top of it.

 

[EspenK]

Here are the brackets for the rest of the tournament

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/olympics/wp/2014/02/16/olympic-hockey-playoff-bracket-is-set/

Russia has to play an extra game and get by, presumably, Finland & Sweden to get to the gold medal game.

USA & Canada could (should) meet in semis.

 

[Samkow]

 

[MoeBartoli]

Samkow....thanks for posting the bracket.