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Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread V

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Inferno said:
2 words....salary cap.
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Bingo. Look at what happened to Chicago after their first cup run in 2010.

Remember the turnover they went through that off-season?

RW Dustin Byfuglien (traded to Atlanta)
LW Ben Eager (traded to Atlanta)
D Brent Sopel (traded to Atlanta)
C Colin Fraser (traded to Edmonton)
RW Kris Versteeg (traded to Toronto)
LW Andrew Ladd (traded to Atlanta)
C Adam Burish (unrestricted free agent, signed by Dallas)
C John Madden (unrestricted free agent, signed by Minnesota)
G Antti Niemi (unrestricted free agent, signed by San Jose)
D Kim Johnsson (unrestricted free agent)

Cash rules everything around me.
 
I really wish there would be a luxury tax in the NHL - if solely to compensate for stuff like cost of living. $100 will get you a lot further in Nashville than it will in NYC along with income taxes, etc...
 
haohmaru said:
I really wish there would be a luxury tax in the NHL - if solely to compensate for stuff like cost of living. $100 will get you a lot further in Nashville than it will in NYC along with income taxes, etc...
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Besides Henrik Lundqvist, the hard cap is the best thing to happen to the Rangers in 20 years
 
This is Sather's summer. He loves to trade when he has someone over a barrel and there are any number of teams that are rip for the picking whether for salary cap reasons or otherwise and I have no doubt the Rangers, for better or worse, will wind up with a Spezza or Joe Thornton or maybe even a Patrick Sharp...someone of that ilk is going to be moved for a package of J. Moore and Danny Kristo. OK, maybe they won't come that cheap but I don't see the Rangers having to overpay in assets to acquire those types of players.

Both Vancouver deals yesterday could have helped the Rangers, at least on paper. Maybe AV had negative reports on the players. In any event, I have little doubt we're acquiring one of the big fish I mentioned earlier.
 
Chief said:
This is Sather's summer. He loves to trade when he has someone over a barrel and there are any number of teams that are rip for the picking whether for salary cap reasons or otherwise and I have no doubt the Rangers, for better or worse, will wind up with a Spezza or Joe Thornton or maybe even a Patrick Sharp...someone of that ilk is going to be moved for a package of J. Moore and Danny Kristo.

Both Vancouver deals yesterday could have helped the Rangers, at least on paper. Maybe AV had negative reports on the players. In any event, I have little doubt we're acquiring one of the big fish I mentioned earlier.
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With what cap space?
 
I like the patient strategy. Seems like lots of churning with every team. Lets see what floats to the surface. I loved Pouloit about 60% of the time this year. Him and Stralman came to the Rangers as free agents off the scrap heap and we turned them into multimillionaires. Players sometimes can be like real estate or stocks buy low ..let them go high.. Maybe if we can find another under performing player the challenge will be to decide whether or not to sign him to a multiyear contract at a reasonable number.
 
Chief said:
This is Sather's summer. He loves to trade when he has someone over a barrel and there are any number of teams that are rip for the picking whether for salary cap reasons or otherwise and I have no doubt the Rangers, for better or worse, will wind up with a Spezza or Joe Thornton or maybe even a Patrick Sharp...someone of that ilk is going to be moved for a package of J. Moore and Danny Kristo. OK, maybe they won't come that cheap but I don't see the Rangers having to overpay in assets to acquire those types of players.

Both Vancouver deals yesterday could have helped the Rangers, at least on paper. Maybe AV had negative reports on the players. In any event, I have little doubt we're acquiring one of the big fish I mentioned earlier.
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The Rangers are in the same spot as a lot of teams. They don't have enough cap space to re-sign all their RFA/UFA's. Boyle we know is already gone. The Rangers still have to re-sign Zucc, Brassard, J. Moore out of the RFA's and D. Moore, Stralman, and possibly Pouliot out of the UFA's. Your talking about $15 million in combined cap space taken up if you don't re-sign Pouliot. $17 million if you do.

If the Rangers did move for one of those guys, they would have more holes elsewhere on the roster.
 
What about Setoguchi to replace Pouliot?

27, RH shot. Had only 11 goals last year but his shooting % was only 8.5%, 3% lower than his career average of 11.5%. Gotta figure he'll return to around his average and if he does, he could pot 15-20 goals.
 
jerseyjinx94 said:
What about Setoguchi to replace Pouliot?

27, RH shot. Had only 11 goals last year but his shooting % was only 8.5%, 3% lower than his career average of 11.5%. Gotta figure he'll return to around his average and if he does, he could pot 15-20 goals.
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I would do it if it was under 3 mil...

Have a 3rd line of hags-miller-seto

Kreider-stepan-MSL
Nash-Bras-MZA
Carboom-Moore-fast

Boyle, stralman, poul are all in same boat.. First time in career they are top commodities.. Will get longer then typical 2-3 yr contracts..
 
I forgot that Gorton and AV will be a big part of the decision making they won't neglect the bottom 6
 
New Kids on The block - Why no Swedes or. Finns?

Only 29 roster spots of now. LOTs of new faces to be part of The organisation this coming week.including 5 draft picks today

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2014-2015 (29)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (12)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit| Status |Team| Drafted |Age
1 | F| Stepan, Derek |$3,075,000| RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R2 #51 NYR (2008)| 23
2 | F| Hagelin, Carl| $2,250,000| RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #168 NYR (2007)| 25
3 | F | Miller, J.T. (ELC) | $1,244,167* |RFA 2015 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011)| 20
4 |F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) |$900,000*| RFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #157 NYR (2010)| 22
5 | F | St Louis, Marty| $5,625,000| UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| Undrafted| 39
6 |D | Staal, Marc | $3,975,000| UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 NYR (2005)| 27
7| G | Talbot, Cameron| $562,600| UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| Undrafted (started w NYR)| 26
8|D | Kline, Kevin | $2,900,000 | UFA 2018| New York Rangers/NHL | R2 #37 Nashville Predators(2003)| 29
9| F| Nash, Rick (NMC??)| $7,800,000| UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002)| 29
10| D| McDonagh, Ryan |$4,700,000| UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Montreal (2007) |24
11 |D| Girardi, Dan (NMC => NTC)| $5,500,000| UFA 2020| New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 29
12 |G| Lundqvist, Henrik (NMC)| $8,500,000| UFA 2021| New York Rangers/NHL| R7 #208 NYR (2000)| 32[/table]

ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL (17)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit| Status |Team| Drafted |Age
13| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) |$1,295,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #10 NYR (2010) | 21
14 |F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC) | $800,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #100 NYR (2010) | 22
15|F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) |$760,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #57 PHX (2010) |22
16 |F |Hrivik, Marek (ELC) |$685,000* |RFA 2015 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 22
17 |D | Allen, Connor (ELC) |$1,775,000* |RFA 2016 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 24
18|D |Zámorský, Petr (ELC) | ~$925,000?? |RFA 2016 |HC Zlin |Undrafted (started w NYR) |21
19 |D |Hughes, Tommy (ELC) | $608,333 |RFA 2016 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 21
20|D |Bodie, Matt (ELC) |$925.000 |RFA 2016 |Union College |Undrafted (started w NYR) |24
21 |F |Haggerty, Ryan (ELC) |$925.000 |RFA 2016 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 21
22| F |Nicholls, J. (ELC) | $709,167 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)| 21
23|D |Noreau, Samuel (ELC) |$685,000 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R5 #136 NYR(2011) |21
24 |F |St. Croix, M. (ELC) | $665,000 |RFA 2016 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011) |20
25 |F |Kantor, Michael (ELC) | $583,333 |RFA 2016 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 22
26|F |Chris McCarthy (ELC) |$692,500 |RFA 2016 |NCAA - U of Vermont |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 22
27| D | Donnay, Troy (ELC) | $716,667* |RFA 2017 |Juniors - London Knights/OHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 20
28|G |Skapski, Mackenzie (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Kootenay/WHL |R6 #170 NYR(2013) |19
29|D |Andersson, Calle (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Zug Switzerland - loaned |R4 #119 NYR (2012)| 19
(30)| F | Duclair, Anthony (ELC-S) |$820,000* |RFA 2017 |Juniors - Québec Remparts/QMJHL |R3 #80 NYR(2013)| 18
(31)|D |Ryan Graves (ELC-S) |$660.000 |RFA 2018 |Juniors - PEI/QMJHL |R4 #110 NYR(2013) |18[/table]

2014 OFFSEASON UFAs
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit 2013/2014| Team 2013/2014| Drafted |Age |Signed with |New caphit
1 |D |Stralman, Anton | $1,700,000 | New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005) |27||
2 |F |Boyle, Brian |$1,700,000 | New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003) |29||
3 |F |Pouliot, Benoit | $1,300,000 | New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #4 Minnesota Wild (2005)| 27||
4 |D |Diaz, Rafael |$1,225,000 | New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted |28||
5 |F |Moore, Dominic | $1,000,000 | New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #95 NYR (2000) |33||
6 |F |Carcillo, Dan |$825,000 | New York Rangers/NHL | R3 #73 Pittsburgh Penguins (2003)| 29||
7 |F |Powe, Darroll |$1,066,667 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |28||
8 |F |Asham, Arron |$1,000,000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996) |35||
9 |D |Bickel, Stu |$750,000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (basically started w NYR)| 27||
10 |F |Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | Undrafted |27||
11 |D |Johnson, Aaron | $600,000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | R3 #85 Columbus Blue Jackets (2001)| 30||
12 |D |Syvret, Danny |$587,500 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #81 Edmonton Oilers (2005) |28||
13 |G |LeNeveu, David | $550,000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #46 Phoenix Coyotes (2002) |30||[/table]

OFFSEASON RFAs
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit 2013/2014|Team| Drafted |Age |Signed with |New caphit
1 | F | Brassard, Derick | $3,200,000 | New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)| 26||
2 | F | Kreider, Chris (ELC) | $1,325,000* | New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |22||
3 | F | Zuccarello, Mats | $1,150,000 | New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26||
4 | D | Falk, Justin |$975,000 | New York Rangers/NHL |R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007) |25||
5 | D | Moore, John (ELC) |$965,000 | New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)| 23||
6 | F | Kristo, Danny (ELC) |$1,300,000* | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)| 23||
7 | F | Jean, Kyle (ELC) |$925,000* | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |24||
8 | F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) |$900,000* | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #80 NYR (2009) |23||
9 | G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC) |$750,000* | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| Undrafted (started w NYR)| 23||
10 | G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC) | $700,000* | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R5 #140 NYR (2009) |22||
11 |F | Wilson, Jason (ELC) |$588,333 | Wichita Thunder/CHL |R5 #130 NYR (2010) |23||
12 |F | Beach, Kyle |$550,000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #11 Chicago Blackhawks (2008) |24||[/table]

[PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
[table="head;width=4200]Pos |Player |Team |Drafted |Age
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA |R3 #72 NYR (2011)| 20
F |Nieves, Cristoval| Michigan Wolverines/NCAA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)| 20
F |Adam Tambellini| Calgary Hitmen/WHL| R3 #65 NYR (2013)| 19
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA| R1 #28 NYR (2012)| 19
F |Pavel Buchnevich| Cherepovets/KHL| R3 #75 NYR (2013)| 18
G |Brandon Halverson|Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) |R2 #59 NYR (2014)|18
F|Keegan Iversson|Portland Winterhawks (WHL)| R3 #85 NYR (2014)|18
D|Ryan Mantha| Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL)| R4 #104 NYR (2014)|18
G|Igor Shesterkin| Spartak Moscow (KHL)| R4 #118 NYR (2014)|18
F|Richard Nejezchleb| Brandon (WHL)| R5 #122 NYR (2014)|20
D|Daniel Walcott| Blainville Boisbriand (QMJHL)| R5 #140 NYR (2014)|18
D|Tyler Nanne| Team USA under 18| R5 #142 NYR (2014)|18
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* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2015 DRAFT PICKS
2nd round Tampa Bay Lightening (for Ryan Callahan)
2nd round NYR
3rd round NYR
4th round NYR
6th round NYR

We lost our 2015 1st rounder in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay.
We will receive a second-round pick from Tampa Bay in the Ryan Callahan trade as he re-signed with Tampa Bay for the 2014–15 NHL season. We then also lost our 7th round pick in the same trade.
We lost our 2015 5th rounder in the trade with Vancouver that brought us Rafael Diaz
 
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SixGoalieSystem said:
FWIW been told deal with STL fell through. Going to take further info from that source with a grain of salt.

Thankfully I don't post rumors often, cause if I did, any credibility would be gone.

Sorry, boys. I honestly thought the rumor was legit.
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Maybe it was. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't close to happening.
 
SixGoalieSystem said:
FWIW been told deal with STL fell through. Going to take further info from that source with a grain of salt.

Thankfully I don't post rumors often, cause if I did, any credibility would be gone.

Sorry, boys. I honestly thought the rumor was legit.
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What? We ever had a deal in place with STL?
 
List of Rangers draft day trades

Can someone post here a list of all our draft day trades?
 
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