2014 NHL Draft Discussion

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bleedblue1223

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I think Fabbri was always our guy. Chicago was probably worried about us, but no way Schmaltz would've fell to them and maybe the Sharks were the only ones willing to trade.
 

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With 3 guys who should have been first rounders on the board, I do not see a team trading that pick outside of massive overpayment. We could get it because they would still be within the window to get one of them. Chicago doesn't even have a 2nd rounder. They would have to give up a prospect to get him or a late 3rd plus. Would you give up our 33rd for a late 3rd other picks?

No I personally wouldn't, but I'm not a stupid NHL GM. Just look at what CHI traded to SJ to move up 7 spots, how did that trade help SJ (no seriously I'm asking lol) but they took it anyway. Even though all it did was move SJ to a worse draft positions in both rounds they swapped. Made no sense to me.
 

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Fabbri's playstyle fits us very well. On twitter he was asked what he needed to improve on and he said strength. The kid sounds like he's got some serious drive and will bust his ass to make the team as soon as he can.
 

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No I personally wouldn't, but I'm not a stupid NHL GM. Just look at what CHI traded to SJ to move up 7 spots, how did that trade help SJ (no seriously I'm asking lol) but they took it anyway. Even though all it did was move SJ to a worse draft positions in both rounds they swapped. Made no sense to me.

San jose got a 3rd rounder for a 6th, so it didn't leave them worse with the second pick. I assume SJ really wanted Goldobin. They knew they could trade down and still get him. So they got their player and exchanged their 6th rounder for a high 3rd. Given who went between their original pick and their actual pick (Schmaltz, Fabbri, McCann, Kapanen, Pastrnak, Scherbak), I think it was a loss. But if Goldobin is who they would have picked anyway, it is a win as they added a 3rd rounder at the expense of an almost worthless 6th.
 

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San jose got a 3rd rounder for a 6th, so it didn't leave them worse with the second pick. I assume SJ really wanted Goldobin. They knew they could trade down and still get him. So they got their player and exchanged their 6th rounder for a high 3rd. Given who went between their original pick and their actual pick (Schmaltz, Fabbri, McCann, Kapanen, Pastrnak, Scherbak), I think it was a loss. But if Goldobin is who they would have picked anyway, it is a win as they added a 3rd rounder at the expense of an almost worthless 6th.

Oh I'm sorry lol, I thought both teams swapped their 1 and 3 round picks.
 

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Ho-Sang was taken late in The First, and Barbashev is still available. There are two teams that pick ahead of us in The 2nd. there is some chance Barbashev will be available at pick 33.
 

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Ho-Sang was taken late in The First, and Barbashev is still available. There are two teams that pick ahead of us in The 2nd. there is some chance Barbashev will be available at pick 33.

I think if he gets by Buffalo(which I don't expect to happen), there's a pretty good chance he will fall to us. Florida has a lot of good young centers with Huberdeau, Barkov, Shore, Pirri, Bjugstad etc. I'm hoping they take a Dman like McKeown. I still don't think it's likely, but a lot had to go right for the Blues to end up with Fabbri. Maybe that luck will continue :D
 

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I think if he gets by Buffalo(which I don't expect to happen), there's a pretty good chance he will fall to us. Florida has a lot of good young centers with Huberdeau, Barkov, Shore, Pirri, Bjugstad etc. I'm hoping they take a Dman like McKeown. I still don't think it's likely, but a lot had to go right for the Blues to end up with Fabbri. Maybe that luck will continue :D

Barbeshev is primarily a LW, which is why I think Florida will grab him. They have the centers and D. They need young wings.
 

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I think Fabbri was always our guy. Chicago was probably worried about us, but no way Schmaltz would've fell to them and maybe the Sharks were the only ones willing to trade.

My big fear with Schmaltz is that his brother stays in college an extra year to become a UFA to join Chicago. That would just suck ass.
 

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Ho-Sang was taken late in The First, and Barbashev is still available. There are two teams that pick ahead of us in The 2nd. there is some chance Barbashev will be available at pick 33.
Better chance local product Ryan MacInnis is there, whaaa Da Blues drafting another Center??? Imagine that!

I think if he gets by Buffalo(which I don't expect to happen), there's a pretty good chance he will fall to us. Florida has a lot of good young centers with Huberdeau, Barkov, Shore, Pirri, Bjugstad etc. I'm hoping they take a Dman like McKeown. I still don't think it's likely, but a lot had to go right for the Blues to end up with Fabbri. Maybe that luck will continue :D
I don't expect Barbashev to get past either Buffalo or Florida, unless they are scared off by the "Russian" factor and going back to the motherland to play in KHL instead.

Barbeshev is primarily a LW, which is why I think Florida will grab him. They have the centers and D. They need young wings.
He's listed as a Center on TSN McKenzie's final 2014 prospect rankings, LW everywhere else. :huh:
 
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If Barbashev is gone, I hope we pick Lemieux. He has a chance to be a 2nd liner (but more likely a 3rd liner) - a gritty, in your face guy with skill who will get under other players' skin.
 

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If Barbashev is gone, I hope we pick Lemieux. He has a chance to be a 2nd liner (but more likely a 3rd liner) - a gritty, in your face guy with skill who will get under other players' skin.

I have no interest in Lemieux.

Would rather go after Donato/Pollock.
 

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I'm thinking barbashev for buffalo and Demko for Florida. Buffalo has a bunch of picks BPA is Barbashev. I see the panthers taking the best goalie mainly because next years crop doesn't look to be near as good. It is a hole they need to address in their organization as a goalie is a long term project. I like Ryan Donato or Kamenev here. Both are top six 2nd line center talents.

I see the d-men falling that are ranked highly, but I think you can get equivalent talent later in the draft. None of these guys really wow you. Just got more hype on better teams. We are due for a run on defense men pretty quick in the draft.
 
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In an ideal world we would get Barbashev at #33 and then take Choppers boy at #52 (which means he would have to fall a bit). If Barbashev is take by #33 I wouldn't mind taking Ryan MacInnis there. I know a lot of people feel like he isn't worth that spot but the last time we passed on a would be 2nd generation Blue with ties to the organization... well... what happened to that kid again....

Oh yeah we courting him as an UFA to be our #1C.

I'm just saying.:D
 

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Gotta think its going to be one of Barbashev, MacInnis, McKeown, based on rankings. Would love Barbashev, but would be happy with any of the three.
 

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In an ideal world we would get Barbashev at #33 and then take Choppers boy at #52 (which means he would have to fall a bit). If Barbashev is take by #33 I wouldn't mind taking Ryan MacInnis there. I know a lot of people feel like he isn't worth that spot but the last time we passed on a would be 2nd generation Blue with ties to the organization... well... what happened to that kid again....

Oh yeah we courting him as an UFA to be our #1C.

I'm just saying.:D

Yes. But the last time we DID pick the 2nd generation Blue, Basil McRae's kid, he didn't work out.

So, based on your logic, it's a 50-50 gamble (like any other choice).

The Blues should go with who they think is absolutely the most likely to be the best player for them. If that's McInnis in that slot, grab him. If its an absolute dead heat, grab McInnis. if another player looks slightly better, grab THAT guy.

I hope Barbashev is still available at 33. If not, I might want McKeown.
 
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In an ideal world we would get Barbashev at #33 and then take Choppers boy at #52 (which means he would have to fall a bit). If Barbashev is take by #33 I wouldn't mind taking Ryan MacInnis there. I know a lot of people feel like he isn't worth that spot but the last time we passed on a would be 2nd generation Blue with ties to the organization... well... what happened to that kid again....

Oh yeah we courting him as an UFA to be our #1C.

I'm just saying.:D
Last time we took a 2nd gen Blue with ties...well that didn't work out so well. :sarcasm:
 

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I honestly wouldn't mind McKeown at this point. Sure I'd want Barbeshev at this pick, but getting a safer pick on the defensive side of things certainly wouldn't be upsetting for me.
 

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Barbashev is who I want at 33, but Id be happy with any one of MacInnis, Kamenev, or Karlsson
 

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I would pick Dougherty over McKeown. In more than one publication, they didn't question the tools of mckeown, but they weren't sure about the IQ. I'd prefer a d-man with a college commitment to a premiere program.
 

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I'll be really upset if we take MacInnis at 33. We got one good prospect, that doesn't mean our cupboards are stocked. We need more. We can't afford to reach for reason other than talent. That includes position. I'd rather go with McKeown if he is BPA. We can use him or another RHD for a trade piece. If a guy like MacInnis, Donato or Hawryluk is top on our board, then I'd prefer to trade down and grab an extra early 3rd rather than take him 10 spots before he is projected. I'm all in on Barbashev though. I'd package our 3rd and 33rd to grab him.
 
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