2014 CBJ Offseason Thread III (All proposals, "blog" rumors, speculation in here)

[WannabeFinn]

Stralman: 5 years remaining, 4.5 AAV

Tyutin: 4 years remaining, 4.5 AAV

Jack Johnson: 4 years remaining, 4.35 AAV


just thought I'd put some of these free agency signings into perspective

 

[punk_o_holic]

This guy is a center and have no idea if he can play on the wing but any interest in making a trade for Patrick Berglund of the Blues? He recently signed a 3 year deal for $3.7 million/season. But with the signing of Statsny, maybe he comes expendable? Only had 14 goals/18 assists in 72 games though. Not sure if that stats is worth the money he makes.

 

[stevo61]

Did you see the deals given out today? They were horrible. Glad Jarmo stayed out of it. Would you have wanted the CBJ to sign Stralman or Orpik to those contracts?

Rather him be a player in the trade market or stand pat.

Letting Comeau and D Mac walk is of little to no impact, there is a good chance chance we improve without them

Exactly. Its better to stand pat then make a move just so you can say you did. I dont agree on Dmac but at the same time hes a 4th liner that plays 10-14 minutes a game and with his size and play im sure he'll be breaking down within the 3 year contract. Comeau won't really be missed, D'Amigo is a bit smaller but a really good skater and could play on our 4th line.
Why not see what the team can do? So much experience gained for the young guys plus Horton will actually be in the lineup which is basically adding a player. There always has to be people that complain that nothing was done or if we did sign someone im sure it would have been too much money

 

[Crede777]

At the same time, I thought we'd gotten away from rushing prospects and holding spots open for them.

Let them come along sloooooooooooowly. There's no hurry.

 

[WannabeFinn]

At the same time, I thought we'd gotten away from rushing prospects and holding spots open for them.

Let them come along sloooooooooooowly. There's no hurry.

to be fair Wennberg did play a year outside of the NHL and it still isn't a guarantee that he'll be in the NHL next year

at the end of the day our prospects are all going to spend at least a couple years in other leagues before getting a real look in Columbus

 

[WannabeFinn]

and if we're talking about bringing a prospect up to play 4th line duty I'd prefer Chaput over Wennberg or Rychel.. it's more suited for him, he played a solid defensive game, and it gives the other guys more time to develop

 

[Samkow]

@ChrisKuc · 4m

#Blackhawks agree to terms with goaltender Scott Darling and forwards Cody Bass and Pierre-Cedric Labrie on one-year contracts.

 

[KJ Dangler]

I'm just concerned that Jarmo isn't treating this team like a serious playoff team.

We were in playoff position yet sold at the trade deadline. Now, after making the playoffs, we're letting players from the team walk.

When you make the playoffs, you solidify your roster and let those players that comprised the team that made the playoffs grow. You add one or two big players via trade or free agency. When a prospect is "NHL ready" you keep them in the minors for a year before cycling them in at the NHL level.

Instead, Jarmo is treating this year like it was an aberration and he expects us to not actually be a playoff team which (I don't care what Johansen said about contract talks) IS a slap in the face of the current roster.

Or maybe its the first day of free agency, teams wasted alot of money, and now Jarmo can look at trade options ? Or maybe he feels that Rychel, and Wennberg already make the team better with there skill, and that he has no doubt one will make the team. Hard to say, we are 100 days from drop of the puck.

 

[punk_o_holic]

and if we're talking about bringing a prospect up to play 4th line duty I'd prefer Chaput over Wennberg or Rychel.. it's more suited for him, he played a solid defensive game, and it gives the other guys more time to develop

I agree. Chaput is probably more suited on the 4th line then Wennberg and Rychel. Chaput has paid his dues by playing in the AHL and getting developed in the AHL. He's shown that he was capable to play in the NHL last season as well in his short stint. I would rather have Wennberg and Rychel playing in the AHL and be getting top minutes. Also, it allows Wennberg to play and adjust in a North American size rink and will help Rychel adjust to playing against men after playing in the juniors. But if either have a strong camp then obviously find room for them in the big club.

 

[Crede777]

Or maybe its the first day of free agency, teams wasted alot of money, and now Jarmo can look at trade options ? Or maybe he feels that Rychel, and Wennberg already make the team better with there skill, and that he has no doubt one will make the team. Hard to say, we are 100 days from drop of the puck.

Jarmo isn't going to look at trade options until he gets the Johansen contract figured out, I think.

I agree. Chaput is probably more suited on the 4th line then Wennberg and Rychel. Chaput has paid his dues by playing in the AHL and getting developed in the AHL. He's shown that he was capable to play in the NHL last season as well. I would rather have Wennberg and Rychel playing in the AHL and be getting top minutes. Also, it allows Wennberg to play in a North American size rink and will help Rychel adjust to playing against men after playing in the juniors. But if either have a strong camp then obviously find room for them in the big club.

I really didn't like what I saw from Chaput last year. He didn't look good at all in terms of winning face-offs or controlling the puck. He'd have to take a solid step forward in order to be a full time 4th line NHL player in my opinion. At this point I'd rather they bring back Skille and run Skille - Letestu - Boll. Skille at least brough some speed and skill.

 

[DJA]

We always hear how we will "poach" players from other teams that are up against the salary cap and it never, ever happens. I'm genuinely curious - if someone could find the last time we've made a substantial trade between July 1 and the start of the regular season, I'd appreciate it.

 

[EspenK]

Hyperbole. There are trades, buyouts, etc - very creative ways of making it work.

And you keep saying "free agents" - how many guys do you think people want to sign? Like I said, ONE skilled veteran winger would go a long way on this club.

I'm with you on this. Just one, preferably a RW'er and I'd say the team was improved. As it stands I think we are status quo. Yes Hartnell on paper appears to be a better version of Umbie but he is not the kind of guy who is going to make us a much more serious contender.

 

[Crede777]

I also don't think we can count on both Hartnell and Horton to remain healthy. At least one will likely miss significant time.

Would Peter Mueller be a good target?

 

[NotWendell]

So guys, what's the opening night lineup look like right now?

 

[punk_o_holic]

This doesn't help us now as it isn't a need but I would offer a draft pick to the Canucks for Markstrom. Now that they have Miller/Lack, they don't need him.

If Markstrom has a strong camp and Mcelhinney struggles, send him to the AHL(although I'm sure some will find that disrespectful to him if the club truly likes him). Cmac doesn't make too much to be in the AHL. If Cmac does fine in camp, send Markstrom to AHL(although he would be making too much to be in the minors) and hope he plays well. Then next Summer, bye bye Cmac and have Markstrom as the backup.

*Like I said this does nothing but it's more of me wanting a fav player to leave my least fav team and come to my fav team.

 

[punk_o_holic]

I also don't think we can count on both Hartnell and Horton to remain healthy. At least one will likely miss significant time.

Would Peter Mueller be a good target?

Wasn't he known to have injury issues as well? Not sure if he got hurt in the Swiss League last year and I think he stayed healthy in the shorten season the year before but prior to those years, I want to say he was always injured.

On top of that, who would be better, him or Hjarmarson? To me, it seems like a lateral move and would rather give Hjarmarson a shot. Maybe give Mueller a tryout offer but those don't happen until close to camp when players aren't signed and get desperate.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Flipped Umby into Hartnell. Horton should be, fingers crossed, healthy next season. Will be a different lineup for sure.

I liked our bottom 6 / 4th line last year -> but losing Comeau, DMac, and probably Skille for nothing? Don't like that part.

 

[punk_o_holic]

Also, anyone know how the Iginla signing(but lost Statsny), Stuart trade, and other minor signings and re signings effect the Av's? They also have to sing Barrie who had a breakout year last season. Will they have room for O'Reilly still if he gets his raise or will he be on the block? Could be a player Jarmo has an eye out on.

 

[WannabeFinn]

I know he's got a ******* personality, but he's still pretty damn talented. Would anyone be severely against GMJK and JD going after Ribeiro if he came cheaply? To be fair, I don't think they would even think twice about him after his character issues, but ya never know I suppose

 

[DJA]

Also, anyone know how the Iginla signing(but lost Statsny), Stuart trade, and other minor signings and re signings effect the Av's? They also have to sing Barrie who had a breakout year last season. Will they have room for O'Reilly still if he gets his raise or will he be on the block? Could be a player Jarmo has an eye out on.

They still have over $10 mil in cap space even with Iginla and Stuart.

They should look into spending some of that on their D. It still looks horrific.

 

[NotWendell]

I know he's got a ******* personality, but he's still pretty damn talented. Would anyone be severely against GMJK and JD going after Ribeiro if he came cheaply? To be fair, I don't think they would even think twice about him after his character issues, but ya never know I suppose

I heard on NHL Network radio that he's supposed to be going into some sort of therapy for his personal issues.

 

[WannabeFinn]

Also, anyone know how the Iginla signing(but lost Statsny), Stuart trade, and other minor signings and re signings effect the Av's? They also have to sing Barrie who had a breakout year last season. Will they have room for O'Reilly still if he gets his raise or will he be on the block? Could be a player Jarmo has an eye out on.

according to Capgeek, Avs have 10.2m cap space and only ROR left to sign

 

[Socks]

I know he's got a ******* personality, but he's still pretty damn talented. Would anyone be severely against GMJK and JD going after Ribeiro if he came cheaply? To be fair, I don't think they would even think twice about him after his character issues, but ya never know I suppose

Not interested.

I'm trying to think of the other notable names still out there. Niskanen, but he's going to get paid stupid money for what he brings.

 

[EspenK]

Also, anyone know how the Iginla signing(but lost Statsny), Stuart trade, and other minor signings and re signings effect the Av's? They also have to sing Barrie who had a breakout year last season. Will they have room for O'Reilly still if he gets his raise or will he be on the block? Could be a player Jarmo has an eye out on.

Cap Geek showing them at just under 59 mill (58.7). Lots of room to sign those two.

 

[Samkow]

I know he's got a ******* personality, but he's still pretty damn talented. Would anyone be severely against GMJK and JD going after Ribeiro if he came cheaply? To be fair, I don't think they would even think twice about him after his character issues, but ya never know I suppose

****** personality seems to be an understatement. Pass.