There's the 'poaching' potential of teams up against the cap. See if we can't get something done in an Anisimov package
But my guess JK is done, aside from Joey
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There's the 'poaching' potential of teams up against the cap. See if we can't get something done in an Anisimov package
But my guess JK is done, aside from Joey
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See if we can't get something done in an Anisimov package
Now you're doing it right.
Sore Loser
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I see nothing wrong with staying pat and rolling with the cards we have, once we get Johansen locked up. Let's not forget that we're adding a huge free agent in Nathan Horton, a guy who was never fully healthy for us last year. That presence alone makes us a better team ...
I am also more than happy with the standing pat method. Very happy with the guys we brought in, in D'amigo and Gibbons from what I've seen from them at the NHL level. No additions on D and nikitin and Schultz walking will give Erixon and Goloubef a chance to play.
The forward group has flexibility and will be pushed very soon, if not from the beginning of camp from Wennberg, Chaput, Rychel, Dano, Hjalmarsson and Anderson, with Bjorkstrand and Milano probably a year or two off.
Johansen, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Letestu likely to be our centers down the middle, with the possibility that Jenner or Gibbons take a turn if need be, and Wennberg, Chaput, Dano there as depth.
Lots of options for line up projections. I could see us going with a line 1, and 3 equal lines under that.
Hartnell - Johansen - Horton (size and scoring)
Foligno - Dubinsky - Jenner (pests)
Calvert - Anisimov - D'amigo (checking)
Gibbons - Letestu - Atkinson (scoring. also BC chemistry)
Tropp, Boll
Johnson - Prout
Tyutin - Savard
Wisniewski - Murray
Erixon
But my gut tells me Chaput and Wennberg both make the team out of camp and Rychel isn't far off either
The forward group has flexibility and will be pushed very soon, if not from the beginning of camp from Wennberg, Chaput, Rychel, Dano, Hjalmarsson and Anderson, with Bjorkstrand and Milano probably a year or two off.
Johansen, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Letestu likely to be our centers down the middle, with the possibility that Jenner or Gibbons take a turn if need be, and Wennberg, Chaput, Dano there as depth.
Lots of options for line up projections. I could see us going with a line 1, and 3 equal lines under that.
Hartnell - Johansen - Horton (size and scoring)
Foligno - Dubinsky - Jenner (pests)
Calvert - Anisimov - D'amigo (checking)
Gibbons - Letestu - Atkinson (scoring. also BC chemistry)
Tropp, Boll
Johnson - Prout
Tyutin - Savard
Wisniewski - Murray
Erixon
But my gut tells me Chaput and Wennberg both make the team out of camp and Rychel isn't far off either
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I'm satisfied with how the roster is shaping up to look like, especially if Wennberg makes the big club out of camp.
I'll take a stab at what I think the opening lineup will look like
w/Wennberg...
Hartnell-Johansen-Jenner
Calvert-Dubinsky-Horton
Foligno-Anisimov-Wennberg
Gibbons-Letestu-Atkinson
w/o Wennberg
Hartnell-Johansen-Jenner
Calvert-Dubinsky-Horton
Foligno-Anisimov-Atkinson
Gibbons-Letestu-D'Amigo
Johnson-Savard
Murray-Wisniewski
Prout-Erixon
Forwards: With the Hartnell-Joey-Jenner line, it looks like our clear cut top line, and Hartnell would be in same role as when he played with Giroux, and I definitely wouldn't split Joey up from Jenner either. Then IMO, we have two solid 2nd line options that could either split ice time evenly or one could end up getting more based on who is hot. With Calvert-Dubinsky-Horton, it is a line with good size, decent speed, and one that can forecheck very, very hard. But with Foligno-Anisimov-Atkinson, there is a little more skill but still very good defensively. Then with the clear cut 4th line, Gibbons and D'amigo add skill and Letestu is a very nice veteran presence who knows his way around the ice very well. Could be a dangerous line too. With Wennberg in the lineup, things get a little complicated as I see him getting the "Jenner treatment" starting out as a winger.
Defense: Johnson is our obvious top pairing defensemen, but there is no clear cut choice for his partner. Based off his performance late in the season and the amount of minutes he ate in the playoffs, I went with Savard to play with him. If he continues his growth from last year, I definitely feel comfortable playing big minutes with Jack. Murray-Wisniewski is the next pairing, they were solid last year. And I think Erixon will end up making the roster over Golo, and he and Prout will make up the third pairing.
I'll take a stab at what I think the opening lineup will look like
w/Wennberg...
Hartnell-Johansen-Jenner
Calvert-Dubinsky-Horton
Foligno-Anisimov-Wennberg
Gibbons-Letestu-Atkinson
w/o Wennberg
Hartnell-Johansen-Jenner
Calvert-Dubinsky-Horton
Foligno-Anisimov-Atkinson
Gibbons-Letestu-D'Amigo
Johnson-Savard
Murray-Wisniewski
Prout-Erixon
Forwards: With the Hartnell-Joey-Jenner line, it looks like our clear cut top line, and Hartnell would be in same role as when he played with Giroux, and I definitely wouldn't split Joey up from Jenner either. Then IMO, we have two solid 2nd line options that could either split ice time evenly or one could end up getting more based on who is hot. With Calvert-Dubinsky-Horton, it is a line with good size, decent speed, and one that can forecheck very, very hard. But with Foligno-Anisimov-Atkinson, there is a little more skill but still very good defensively. Then with the clear cut 4th line, Gibbons and D'amigo add skill and Letestu is a very nice veteran presence who knows his way around the ice very well. Could be a dangerous line too. With Wennberg in the lineup, things get a little complicated as I see him getting the "Jenner treatment" starting out as a winger.
Defense: Johnson is our obvious top pairing defensemen, but there is no clear cut choice for his partner. Based off his performance late in the season and the amount of minutes he ate in the playoffs, I went with Savard to play with him. If he continues his growth from last year, I definitely feel comfortable playing big minutes with Jack. Murray-Wisniewski is the next pairing, they were solid last year. And I think Erixon will end up making the roster over Golo, and he and Prout will make up the third pairing.
Anybody up for a fast/scoring 4th line, I see a lot of big body responsible forward in the top 9
Jenner-Johansen-Horton
Hartnell-Dubinsky-Foligno
Calvert-Anisimov-Letestu
Gibbons-Wennberg-Atkinson
Jenner-Johansen-Horton
Hartnell-Dubinsky-Foligno
Calvert-Anisimov-Letestu
Gibbons-Wennberg-Atkinson
Honestly what are some of you people smoking? Atkinson was one of only three 20 goal scorers we had last year. And some of you don't even have him on the roster or as a fourth liner checker? Are you kidding me? Do you even follow this team? Atkinson WILL be in the top 9 to start the season. After the season starts, who knows. But after finishing third in goal scoring last year, Atkinson did not lose his spot on the roster.
WannabeFinn
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Never said Cam is a fourth line "checker"
I could see our fourth line playing like a 2nd line, since the team(top 9) plays a heavy game
I could see our fourth line playing like a 2nd line, since the team(top 9) plays a heavy game
I believe Cam would benefit not playing with Dubi or Arty since they are geared to play defensively against top lines
JKinCLE
killing time @ work
This. ^^
I mentioned this in the "opening night lines thread". I don't think most people even remember he was signed. He is absent on 90% of lineup predictions. I get that it could be the mystery factor surrounding him, but lets not also overlook the facts surrounding him.
- Former 2nd round pick of Jarmo's Blues in '07
- Came in 3rd in both goals scored, and points in the SHL and was just over a ppg.
Just my opinion, but I would rather he be in the line up than Jerry D'Amigo. Its really all dependent on whether hjalmarsson can adjust to the NHL, which I think he is smart and mature enough to handle it. I doubt Jarmo would have reached out to him 7 years after he drafted him originally if he didn't think he could play.
Exactly. And last i heard there were 3 other teams pushing hard to sign him. One of which was chicago.
Forget Tyutin?
Prout's got to really get into top form to pass Tyutin.
Here's my favorites if we don't move Tyutin:
Murray-JJ
Tyutin-Savard
Erixon-Wiz
Golo/Prout
Is Murray ready for hard defensive minutes? I also really want to find a way to get Golo in the lineup. Defensively I think he can handle the hardest minutes, and he might be safer paired with Tyutin (Tyutin and Savard might be too slow together).
Yep. It'll be either him or Gibbons in that 12/13 spot. People are also forgetting that Tropp is on a one way so he'll likely be in the lineup every night. Chaput and D'Amigo will not be on the opening night roster. Boll will play when the opponent warrants it. If Wennberg makes the team, I think you'll see a minor trade, like Letestu for a 4th.
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We can put him on waivers and, if he clears, send him down. If he gets snatched up, we probably wouldn't cry over that situation.
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I firmly believe this will be the roster out of camp. No insider knowledge of course, but this is what I feel will happen.
Jenner - Johansen - Horton - This line played together mostly at the end of the year and they did pretty well even with Horton at 70%. I think these guys get the first crack at playing with Johansen.
Hartnell - Anisimov - Atkinson - I went back and forth on line's 2 and 3, and where to put Foligno, Calvert, Cam, and Dubi, but I think this what will happen. Gives a nice mix of size with Arty and Hartnell while having the speed of Atkinson. Hartnell worked well with a speed demon in Giroux, and Cam can try to replicate what Giroux brought in terms of speed. Arty got the nod over Dubi for me because of his offensive upside, although if Arty goes through one of his scoring droughts you can easily switch them up.
Wennberg - Dubinsky(A) - Foligno - Yes, I firmly believe Wennberg makes the team out of camp. Foligno worked well with everyone he played with last year, and Dubinsky is a warrior that will drag everyone into the battle. If Wennberg can't handle it, then send him down immediately and bring up Calvert to this line.
Calvert - Letestu (A) - D'Amigo - D'amigo gets the nod for me over guys like Gibbons, Boll, Tropp, and Hjalmarsson because he brings a dimension similar to MacKenzie. He has speed and isn't afraid of the physical side of the game, much like Calvert and Letestu, and unlike Gibbons or Hjalmarsson. He has a touch of an offensive game, unlike Boll and Tropp.
Extras: Boll, Tropp. Hjalmarsson and Gibbons to Springfield/claimed off waivers. First call ups (In Order): Rychel, Dano, Chaput
Defense
JJ (A) - Savard - Looked great together in the post-season. Should get the first crack together.
Murray - Wisniewski - Murray is ready for an expanded roll, and Wisniewski will be needed to supply offense from the back-end.
Tyutin - Prout - Keeps 3 lefties and 3 righties, which is rare for a team I believe. Hard swallowing Tyutin's salary on the 3rd pair, but he's not better than Jack and Murray is at least on par with him already.
Extra: Erixon/Goloubef - Who can swap in if any of the defenseman are injured/playing poorly. Good problem to have, healthy competition.
Dealt or claimed off waivers: Erixon/Goloubef - Loser of the battle will be on an NHL team this season, IMO. First call ups: St. Denis, Weber
Goalies are obvious.
Jenner - Johansen - Horton - This line played together mostly at the end of the year and they did pretty well even with Horton at 70%. I think these guys get the first crack at playing with Johansen.
Hartnell - Anisimov - Atkinson - I went back and forth on line's 2 and 3, and where to put Foligno, Calvert, Cam, and Dubi, but I think this what will happen. Gives a nice mix of size with Arty and Hartnell while having the speed of Atkinson. Hartnell worked well with a speed demon in Giroux, and Cam can try to replicate what Giroux brought in terms of speed. Arty got the nod over Dubi for me because of his offensive upside, although if Arty goes through one of his scoring droughts you can easily switch them up.
Wennberg - Dubinsky(A) - Foligno - Yes, I firmly believe Wennberg makes the team out of camp. Foligno worked well with everyone he played with last year, and Dubinsky is a warrior that will drag everyone into the battle. If Wennberg can't handle it, then send him down immediately and bring up Calvert to this line.
Calvert - Letestu (A) - D'Amigo - D'amigo gets the nod for me over guys like Gibbons, Boll, Tropp, and Hjalmarsson because he brings a dimension similar to MacKenzie. He has speed and isn't afraid of the physical side of the game, much like Calvert and Letestu, and unlike Gibbons or Hjalmarsson. He has a touch of an offensive game, unlike Boll and Tropp.
Extras: Boll, Tropp. Hjalmarsson and Gibbons to Springfield/claimed off waivers. First call ups (In Order): Rychel, Dano, Chaput
Defense
JJ (A) - Savard - Looked great together in the post-season. Should get the first crack together.
Murray - Wisniewski - Murray is ready for an expanded roll, and Wisniewski will be needed to supply offense from the back-end.
Tyutin - Prout - Keeps 3 lefties and 3 righties, which is rare for a team I believe. Hard swallowing Tyutin's salary on the 3rd pair, but he's not better than Jack and Murray is at least on par with him already.
Extra: Erixon/Goloubef - Who can swap in if any of the defenseman are injured/playing poorly. Good problem to have, healthy competition.
Dealt or claimed off waivers: Erixon/Goloubef - Loser of the battle will be on an NHL team this season, IMO. First call ups: St. Denis, Weber
Goalies are obvious.
Not bad Joe! I trust Dubi matched up against the opponent's top line more than Arty. I'd rather Arty have the freedom to be more freewheeling. So swap those two.
I agree that I don't see how Gibbons doesn't make the roster.
I'll go on record right now as saying Jared Boll will be put on waivers before the season starts.
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