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WhipNash27 said:
Stepan is a solid #2. Brassard is also a #2 (although I think Stepan is better). Richards was playing like a #2 at times in the playoffs, now he's hardly a #3. Rangers don't have a #1 center, it's a huge gaping hole.
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When Richards, Stepan and Brassard were all playing like #2's they had a shot. With Richards playing like a glorified #4 except for the PP it really kills them. On top of that, he is dragging MSL down with him.
 
Stepan is a 1C, although he is a lower level 1C. Rangers do not have an elite Center. There are about 10 of those in the league and 2 of them are on the same team.
 
We have had numerous debates this year about whether our centers are good enough to win the cup and the answer is a resounding no. I think Brassard and Moore have done a decent job in their respective roles, but having a 1-2 tandem of Stepan and Richards is not enough. Kopitar and Carter have combined for 4 points in this series while Stepan and Richards only have 1 point, Stepan's assist on MSL's PP goal in Game 2. For Richards to have so much PP time and no points to show for it is inexcusable.

Unfortunately, finding that #1 center has proved elusive to Sather and I think that trend will continue. I think they may go the "quick fix" route and someone like Grabovski is not the answer here.

Another issue is finding an offensive defenseman to supplement McD. Amazing how LA's defensemen manage to hit the net while ours, other than McD, just rip it wide.
 
NYR Viper said:
The idea for both was to show there was plenty of cap room. Sign them for whatever but I think both would be VERY solid depth signings.

I wouldn't mind either of them.

I don't think so, but maybe.

I think he'd be find playing with Staal.
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Overall I really like what you did. I also am a major fan of Allen's. I'm just nervous about throwing him into a role like that. It may be necessary though and it may work out in our favor. HIs style also should complement Staal's nicely, I feel.

That being said, I'd prefer to save the extra space and use it elsewhere. Like if Allen doesn't pan out possibly trading for a top 4 guy.

Also, I felt wwe should have bought out Richards last year and signed Grabo as a stop-gap. So I'm totally on board with that move. He fits AV's system nicely.
 
The way people talk about this Grabovski guy. He won't be cheap. Legwand sucked for the Wings. The cap is going up. The cap was set at $64.3 million and space was tight all over the NHL.
 
Dactyl said:
Stepan is a 1C, although he is a lower level 1C. Rangers do not have an elite Center. There are about 10 of those in the league and 2 of them are on the same team.
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Are we talking Crosby and Malkin or Zetterberg and Datsyuk? ;)
 
RangerBoy said:
The way people talk about this Grabovski guy. He won't be cheap. Legwand sucked for the Wings. The cap is going up. The cap was set at $64.3 million and space was tight all over the NHL.
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The feeling was he'd get a decent contract last year and he didn't. Who knows what will happen. The market is odd sometimes. Legwand is not the answer. If they offer Grabo a fair tenure (3 years, maybe) then possible he'll sign for south of 4 million.

He's not a legit #1, but having Stepan, Grabo and Brass down the middle is very strong.
 
I have absolutely no doubt that Grabovski would be the new #1 whipping boy by this time next year if the Rangers sign him.

Edit - the worst part is, he still might be one of their better options
 
Get bigger?

I am so fed up with this "we need to get bigger" BS constantly floating around here
Stats below will prove this is a moronic argument
Our bigger players need to play better
Our key players that get paid Big $$ need to play up to the level what they are paid to perform
This includes #61
PERIOD

[table="head;width=4200]Player| Games| Goals| Assists|Points| +/- | PIM| Shots |Shot% |TOI/game|PPG| Cap hit |$/Point|Height|Weight| Age
Martin St. Louis| 23| 7| 7| 14| -4| 2| 48| 14.6| 19:04| 0,61| 5 625 000| 401 786| 5´8"| 180| 38
Derek Stepan| 22| 5| 9| 14| -1| 2| 45| 11.1| 19:21| 0,64| 3 075 000| 219 643 |6`0"| 196 |23
Mats Zuccarello |23 |5| 8| 13| 7| 16| 50| 10.0| 17:17| 0,57| 1 150 000| 88 462| 5´7"| 179| 26
Carl Hagelin| 23| 7| 4| 11| 0| 16| 55| 12.7| 15:43| 0,48| 2 250 000| 204 545| 5`11"| 186| 25
Derick Brassard| 21| 6| 5| 11| 4| 8| 42| 14.3| 15:23| 0,52 |3 200 000| 290 909 |6´1" |201| 26
Brad Richards| 23| 5| 6| 11| -2| 4| 68| 7.4| 16:58| 0,48| 6 666 667| 606 061 |6´1"| 196| 34
Chris Kreider| 13| 4| 7| 11| -2| 14| 26| 15.4| 16:13| 0,85| 1 325 000| 120 455 |6´3"| 226| 23
Rick Nash| 23| 3| 7| 10| -1| 6| 80| 3.8| 17:12| 0,43| 7 800 000| 780 000| 6´4"| 213| 29
Benoit Pouliot| 23| 4| 5| 9| 8| 22| 38| 10.5| 15:26| 0,39| 1 300 000| 144 444 |6´3"| 197| 27
Dominic Moore| 23| 3| 5| 8| -2| 20| 28| 10.7| 12:48| 0,35| 1 000 000| 125 000| 6´0"| 192| 33
Brian Boyle| 23| 2| 5| 7| -4| 19| 27| 7.4| 13:03| 0,30| 1 700 000| 242 857 |6´7"| 244| 29
Daniel Carcillo |8| 2| 0| 2| 1| 22| 11| 18.2| 08:46| 0,25| 825 000| 412 500| 6´0"| 200| 29
J.T. Miller |4 |0| 2| 2| 3| 2| 3| 0.0| 09:16| 0,50| 894 167 |447 084| 6´1"| 205| 21
Derek Dorsett |21| 0| 1| 1| -2| 19| 20| 0.0| 09:20| 0,05| 1 633 333| 1 633 333| 6´0"| 190| 27
Jesper Fast| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.0| 09:39| 0,00| 850 000 |high |6´0" |185| 22[/table]
 
BBKers said:
I am so fed up with this "we need to get bigger" BS constantly floating around here
Stats below will prove this is a moronic argument
Our bigger players need to play better
Our key players that paid Big $$ need to play up to the level what they are paid to perform
This includes #61
PERIOD

[table="head;width=4200]Player| Games| Goals| Assists|Points| +/- | PIM| Shots |Shot% |TOI/game|PPG| Cap hit |$/Point|Height|Weight| Age
Martin St. Louis| 23| 7| 7| 14| -4| 2| 48| 14.6| 19:04| 0,61| 5 625 000| 401 786| 5´8"| 180| 38
Derek Stepan| 22| 5| 9| 14| -1| 2| 45| 11.1| 19:21| 0,64| 3 075 000| 219 643 |6`0"| 196 |23
Mats Zuccarello |23 |5| 8| 13| 7| 16| 50| 10.0| 17:17| 0,57| 1 150 000| 88 462| 5´7"| 179| 26
Carl Hagelin| 23| 7| 4| 11| 0| 16| 55| 12.7| 15:43| 0,48| 2 250 000| 204 545| 5`11"| 186| 25
Derick Brassard| 21| 6| 5| 11| 4| 8| 42| 14.3| 15:23| 0,52 |3 200 000| 290 909 |6´1" |201| 26
Brad Richards| 23| 5| 6| 11| -2| 4| 68| 7.4| 16:58| 0,48| 6 666 667| 606 061 |6´1"| 196| 34
Chris Kreider| 13| 4| 7| 11| -2| 14| 26| 15.4| 16:13| 0,85| 1 325 000| 120 455 |6´3"| 226| 23
Rick Nash| 23| 3| 7| 10| -1| 6| 80| 3.8| 17:12| 0,43| 7 800 000| 780 000| 6´4"| 213| 29
Benoit Pouliot| 23| 4| 5| 9| 8| 22| 38| 10.5| 15:26| 0,39| 1 300 000| 144 444 |6´3"| 197| 27
Dominic Moore| 23| 3| 5| 8| -2| 20| 28| 10.7| 12:48| 0,35| 1 000 000| 125 000| 6´0"| 192| 33
Brian Boyle| 23| 2| 5| 7| -4| 19| 27| 7.4| 13:03| 0,30| 1 700 000| 242 857 |6´7"| 244| 29
Daniel Carcillo |8| 2| 0| 2| 1| 22| 11| 18.2| 08:46| 0,25| 825 000| 412 500| 6´0"| 200| 29
J.T. Miller |4 |0| 2| 2| 3| 2| 3| 0.0| 09:16| 0,50| 894 167 |447 084| 6´1"| 205| 21
Derek Dorsett |21| 0| 1| 1| -2| 19| 20| 0.0| 09:20| 0,05| 1 633 333| 1 633 333| 6´0"| 190| 27
Jesper Fast| 3| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0.0| 09:39| 0,00| 850 000 |high |6´0" |185| 22[/table]
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$/pt is a very interesting metric. What's the ideal in everyone's mind? I was thinking <$250k/pt.
 
The Rangers need closure on the Staal issue. He does not want to be on the same situation as Lundqvist, Girardi and Callahan next season. He made those comments to Brooks. Free agency. Dealing with the contract stuff. Sign him on July 1 or trade him. The Rangers could have signed Lundqvist and Girardi to those contracts last summer. The price isn't coming down. Girardi wanted the $5.5 million last fall. Pay Staal or trade him. Is Carolina an option anymore? New management in Carolina. Eric is free in two years. Maybe Francis wants to take the team in a new direction and away from Eric Staal being the face of the Canes. It won't be cheap to re-sign Marc. If the Rangers don't want to pay the price, trade him. Don't wait until the trading deadline.
 
For me it's not about raw size at all but the Rangers seriously lack a net front game. They can get by without it a lot...vs teams like Montreal and Philly that they can outskate and in the case of the Habs, out-muscle.

But when they face teams like the Kings, Boston, Ducks, Blues, etc they can have trouble breaking into the interior of the ice which increases the quality of scoring chances. Rebounds, tips, screens. It's not an absolute necessity if the matchups work out perfectly but it would go a long way towards making them a more diverse team in terms of ways they can win.

For example, and I'm sure I will get blasted by the Corsi police for this, but if I could swap Pouliot for a player like Bryan Bickel I would make that trade off every time. Kreider and Nash should provide this. Kreider does, albeit inconsistently. Nash is Nash at this point and the concussions aren't going to make him more likely to engage. If JT Miller can become Mike Richards-ish between Hags and MSL that could help compared to what Brad is giving them. Yes that is by no means guarenteed.
 
Brassard will cost the Rangers $4.5 million in a long-term contract. Grabovski is the same player. Add Stepan. Three finesse centers. Zuccarello will cost the Rangers major bucks. $4.5 million for him too.
 
I think you gotta compliance buyout Richards and at least look into buying out Nash. If you compliance richards/ ordinary buyout Nash, the nash buyout hit is only 2.5 hit/8 yrs. Saving 5.3 hit a yr in space next 4 yrs! and its a 2.6 hit for 4 yrs after that. Really not alot. Saving so much in cap space. Idc what you tell me, hes not a 7.8 player. This aint football where you can renegotiate contract.
 
Giglio NYR15 said:
I think you gotta compliance buyout Richards and at least look into buying out Nash. If you compliance richards/ ordinary buyout Nash, the nash buyout hit is only 2.5 hit/8 yrs. Saving 5.3 hit a yr in space next 4 yrs! and its a 2.6 hit for 4 yrs after that. Really not alot. Saving so much in cap space. Idc what you tell me, hes not a 7.8 player. This aint football where you can renegotiate contract.
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Nash certainly has trade value.
 
Buying out Nash would be such a horrible move to make. It concerns me that it's even a consideration at this point.
 
It's very simple. I've said it for years - this team has been lacking a true PMD and a true #1 center. McD appears to have evolved into one of the best all-around dmen in the league, which most certainly puts a dent in that first problem, although if we could add an offensive force (perfectly willing to sacrifice some defensive acumen) on the right side as well, that would be a godsend.

Most important, however, is to find a guy to play the middle who can dictate play. Win faceoffs, be close to a PPG (doesn't have to exceed or even equal in this day and age, but you need a guy who at least flirts with 75 points annually), win physical battles, win speed battles, carve up the defense.

Stepan is a below par #1/above par #2, who has the brains and the hands, but is lacking the physical and is held back by his lack of footspeed. Brassard IMO has evolved into a par #2 who has the speed and the hands, but is also lacking the physical and doesn't have Stepan's hockey IQ. Richards at this point is a below par #3 in my book - he has the brains, but is just simply shot.

If Miller can evolve into a Mike Richards, that would certainly be helpful, but that still doesn't quite do it. What we truly desperately need is an up-and-coming Barkov/Galchenyuk/Johansen/Schiefele.
 
BrooklynRangersFan said:
It's very simple. I've said it for years - this team has been lacking a true PMD and a true #1 center. McD appears to have evolved into one of the best all-around dmen in the league, which most certainly puts a dent in that first problem, although if we could add an offensive force (perfectly willing to sacrifice some defensive acumen) on the right side as well, that would be a godsend.

Most important, however, is to find a guy to play the middle who can dictate play. Win faceoffs, be close to a PPG (doesn't have to exceed or even equal in this day and age, but you need a guy who at least flirts with 75 points annually), win physical battles, win speed battles, carve up the defense.

Stepan is a below par #1/above par #2, who has the brains and the hands, but is lacking the physical and is held back by his lack of footspeed. Brassard IMO has evolved into a par #2 who has the speed and the hands, but is also lacking the physical and doesn't have Stepan's hockey IQ. Richards at this point is a below par #3 in my book - he has the brains, but is just simply shot.

If Miller can evolve into a Mike Richards, that would certainly be helpful, but that still doesn't quite do it. What we truly desperately need is an up-and-coming Barkov/Galchenyuk/Johansen/Schiefele.
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The Rangers need to miss the playoffs and have a top pick to get one of those players. That's not happening.
 
RangerBoy said:
The Rangers need closure on the Staal issue. He does not want to be on the same situation as Lundqvist, Girardi and Callahan next season. He made those comments to Brooks. Free agency. Dealing with the contract stuff. Sign him on July 1 or trade him. The Rangers could have signed Lundqvist and Girardi to those contracts last summer. The price isn't coming down. Girardi wanted the $5.5 million last fall. Pay Staal or trade him. Is Carolina an option anymore? New management in Carolina. Eric is free in two years. Maybe Francis wants to take the team in a new direction and away from Eric Staal being the face of the Canes. It won't be cheap to re-sign Marc. If the Rangers don't want to pay the price, trade him. Don't wait until the trading deadline.
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If it at the end of the day we paid Girardi and traded Staal, I won't be a happy camper.

Girardi is the one we should have traded. His contract stinks and he's only going to get worse.
 
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