Salary Cap: 2014/2015 New York Rangers roster & salary cap
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
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I think he'd be fine because, well, he's Ryan ****ing McDonagh.
That said, I agree with you on the whole. Should just go 3 rightys and 3 lefties if possible, unless there is a rare exception where the player excels on his offside (i.e, Phaneuf).
That's the risk with signing him. Although he isn't a one-trick offensive PP specialist like he's perceived here. He legitimately held together the defense of a 100 pt team. I think 5 yrs 25-27 mil would be a great pickup, could see him adapting better in AV's system than Staal.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
- 80,071
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Fair point, and to add, he's always had the potential to be a very solid defenseman. He was a first rounder. Might have just taken him awhile to put it together.
Raspewtin
Stay at home defenseman hater
- May 30, 2013
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Niskanen is so..............I don't know.
I'm very inclined to believe this is and will be his only great season. But he did a great job with the Pens this year, that really can't be overlooked, he was noticeable in a lot of ways everytime I watched him. I thought he played bad in the playoffs, though.
He's definitely what we need but god this has bust written all over it.
I'm very inclined to believe this is and will be his only great season. But he did a great job with the Pens this year, that really can't be overlooked, he was noticeable in a lot of ways everytime I watched him. I thought he played bad in the playoffs, though.
He's definitely what we need but god this has bust written all over it.
Vinny DeAngelo
Jimmy Easy to defend
I just wanna point out that wen u compare LAs team to our there two highest paid players are Drew doughty for $7 million per and anze kopitar for $6.8 per. And they are they're two best players IMO. When u look at our team our two highest paid skater are Rick Nash for $7.8 per and broadway buyout Richards for $6.7 per.
Now obviously brad Richards is going to be bought out that's a forgone conclusion at this point. But I think we should move Nash. Not because of his poor play in the playoffs or concussion issue but because he gets paid like a top 10 player when he simply isn't. Rick Nash is a first line winger on almost every team in this league. Trading him this offseason or next season allows us to recapture some prospects or picks lost in the MSL trade and opens a lot of cap room(even though I think we would eat about $2.8 of that cap hit to make him more appealing in trades) after next season we have Hagelin, Stepan, MSL, JT Miller, Mcilrath, Lindberg who need new contracts. And many people are pegging some of those rookies to make an impact. And then there the situation with staal and stralman which we should try to keep both if possible. If not trade staal because there is more organizational depth on the left side... And by trading Nash u move MSL up to the first line and MZA up to the second. Many people has brassard taking the second line center spot while miller is the third and a major part of brassards recent upswing in production has been as a result of zuccarello's good play. Just food for thought and my opinions at 5:30 in the morning
Now obviously brad Richards is going to be bought out that's a forgone conclusion at this point. But I think we should move Nash. Not because of his poor play in the playoffs or concussion issue but because he gets paid like a top 10 player when he simply isn't. Rick Nash is a first line winger on almost every team in this league. Trading him this offseason or next season allows us to recapture some prospects or picks lost in the MSL trade and opens a lot of cap room(even though I think we would eat about $2.8 of that cap hit to make him more appealing in trades) after next season we have Hagelin, Stepan, MSL, JT Miller, Mcilrath, Lindberg who need new contracts. And many people are pegging some of those rookies to make an impact. And then there the situation with staal and stralman which we should try to keep both if possible. If not trade staal because there is more organizational depth on the left side... And by trading Nash u move MSL up to the first line and MZA up to the second. Many people has brassard taking the second line center spot while miller is the third and a major part of brassards recent upswing in production has been as a result of zuccarello's good play. Just food for thought and my opinions at 5:30 in the morning
bto- Yeah, but Doughty and Kopitar are high draft picks made by LA, and resigned as RFAs...
Richards is a UFA. He is either over paid or we don't have him. We basically stand in the situation with Nash, we either keep over paying him or we don't have him (buy him out). Maybe he could be forced to waive, but I am don't think the time to convince him to do that his this summer. If we want him to waive, there is a process. Gotta at least give him another year I would imagine...
My point is just -- we can't make decisions based on the fact that other teams struck gold. Hank was our best player too when he made .850k, that fact is hardly helpful for the Flyers. If you get my point.
Unless we can get a Doughty or Kopitar signed for that money, its kind of an irrelevant fact for us.
Richards is a UFA. He is either over paid or we don't have him. We basically stand in the situation with Nash, we either keep over paying him or we don't have him (buy him out). Maybe he could be forced to waive, but I am don't think the time to convince him to do that his this summer. If we want him to waive, there is a process. Gotta at least give him another year I would imagine...
My point is just -- we can't make decisions based on the fact that other teams struck gold. Hank was our best player too when he made .850k, that fact is hardly helpful for the Flyers. If you get my point.
Unless we can get a Doughty or Kopitar signed for that money, its kind of an irrelevant fact for us.
Staal VS Stralman. Which player would be a better buy? Stralman. Staal won't be a cheap re-sign. His salary will $5.45M next season. He is not taking a pay cut.
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The Rangers should have bought Richards out last June. Richards is on the 4th line again. AV should take him off the PP.
https://twitter.com/Hope_Smoke/status/477214114297556992
The Rangers should have bought Richards out last June. Richards is on the 4th line again. AV should take him off the PP.
The thing is, we can't count on MSL for 3-4 years ahead. We can count on some sort of contribution next year, but that is about it. He turns 39 like any day now. After next season, he turns 40.
We have Zucc who I think has potential to grow even more offensively. Zucc has played real well, but his role has kind of been limited. Tougher match-ups will come with a bigger role, but I do think his production will come out on top at the bottom line.
AV and Slats needs to make a decision on if they can build a functioning first line with Nash on it. That is the key question. Right now Nash is not functioning offensively on a line that is not functioning offensively, we could stick anyone from Corry Perry to Bobby Ryan to Thomas Vanek to Marian Gaborik to Matt Moulson on that line, none of them would put that line over the top. That line needs more support all over, and especially from the blueline. But they can also do a better job themselves, Kreider is growing into the game, Step needs to make more key plays, I mean, he are making extremely few key plays. Or be replaced. Nash needs to find goto sources for offense. More standard plays that will get him on board. I think that line was god awful for long periods of the regular season, but after being given a lot of time toghter it has developed a lot. But like we have seen during the POs, it could score alot aganist Phi and MTL while being completely shut down by Pitt and LAK.
At the bottom line, AV will want a big and heavy 1st line that can wear on the other team even when facing the toughest match-ups. That wins games for us, or like gives us a shot to win any game (to be precise that line itself is very rarely behind the actual GW goals though). What is the best alternative to get that? The question remains. Try to get something working around Nash, or rid ourselfs of him and try something else. You might not like the first alternative, but I mean, it -- must -- be looked at in the light of the second alternative. And there I just see a bunch of names like Vanek and the likes...
We have Zucc who I think has potential to grow even more offensively. Zucc has played real well, but his role has kind of been limited. Tougher match-ups will come with a bigger role, but I do think his production will come out on top at the bottom line.
AV and Slats needs to make a decision on if they can build a functioning first line with Nash on it. That is the key question. Right now Nash is not functioning offensively on a line that is not functioning offensively, we could stick anyone from Corry Perry to Bobby Ryan to Thomas Vanek to Marian Gaborik to Matt Moulson on that line, none of them would put that line over the top. That line needs more support all over, and especially from the blueline. But they can also do a better job themselves, Kreider is growing into the game, Step needs to make more key plays, I mean, he are making extremely few key plays. Or be replaced. Nash needs to find goto sources for offense. More standard plays that will get him on board. I think that line was god awful for long periods of the regular season, but after being given a lot of time toghter it has developed a lot. But like we have seen during the POs, it could score alot aganist Phi and MTL while being completely shut down by Pitt and LAK.
At the bottom line, AV will want a big and heavy 1st line that can wear on the other team even when facing the toughest match-ups. That wins games for us, or like gives us a shot to win any game (to be precise that line itself is very rarely behind the actual GW goals though). What is the best alternative to get that? The question remains. Try to get something working around Nash, or rid ourselfs of him and try something else. You might not like the first alternative, but I mean, it -- must -- be looked at in the light of the second alternative. And there I just see a bunch of names like Vanek and the likes...
Kokoschka
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BBKers
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In a galaxy far far away - this took place last offseason and beyond
Brad Richards was bought out
We retained Brandon Prust
Neither of the Columbus trades took place
All other trades took place (maybe except the one with SJ for Clowe)
Would have left us with the following team right now:
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Artem Anisimov ($3.283m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Brandon Prust ($2.500m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonaugh ($0.875m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.225m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Tim Erixon ($0.851m) / Justin Falk ($0.975m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundkvist ($6.875m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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TOTALS (2013-14)
SALARY CAP: $64,500,000
CAP PAYROLL: $59,890,500
BONUSES: $350,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,609,500
Plus an additional firstrounder last year that we gave Columbus
Brad Richards was bought out
We retained Brandon Prust
Neither of the Columbus trades took place
All other trades took place (maybe except the one with SJ for Clowe)
Would have left us with the following team right now:
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Artem Anisimov ($3.283m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Brandon Prust ($2.500m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonaugh ($0.875m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.225m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Tim Erixon ($0.851m) / Justin Falk ($0.975m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundkvist ($6.875m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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TOTALS (2013-14)
SALARY CAP: $64,500,000
CAP PAYROLL: $59,890,500
BONUSES: $350,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,609,500
Plus an additional firstrounder last year that we gave Columbus
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Spoiler alert:
At the end of this movie the team is golfing in April. Wait until it comes out on DVD and rent it.
BBKers
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Linnarhult
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Still don't understand how you trade Dubi after getting a contract like that. Everyone and their Mom knew 2012 was a fluke season. Meanwhile Callahan wants over a mil more than that
eco's bones
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Both Gaborik and Nash IMO would function best as complementary scorers then as the main guys--like Gaborik is doing playing on Kopitar's wing in LA right now. When Gaborik's your biggest threat you're pretty much heading for the 2nd round and then out. The Rangers have got to where they are with Nash somehow or other because they were able to mitigate his lack of goals by balanced scoring over 4 lines and their dependency on a very good defense and an elite goalie.
Nash and Gaborik are not elite players in my terms. They don't rank with the top 15-20 forwards in the league. They need more help to do what they do best than those that are truly elite. They are a rung below but in the right circumstances like Gaborik is in now--they can be a real force. Which is to say that if Gaborik were here and Nash was in LA it wouldn't surprise me at all if Nash had 13 goals playing with Kopitar and Gaborik had 3 like Nash has so far. If the Rangers had a legit 1st line center Nash would IMO be much more of a factor.
Nash and Gaborik are not elite players in my terms. They don't rank with the top 15-20 forwards in the league. They need more help to do what they do best than those that are truly elite. They are a rung below but in the right circumstances like Gaborik is in now--they can be a real force. Which is to say that if Gaborik were here and Nash was in LA it wouldn't surprise me at all if Nash had 13 goals playing with Kopitar and Gaborik had 3 like Nash has so far. If the Rangers had a legit 1st line center Nash would IMO be much more of a factor.
Kokoschka
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Nash and Gaborik aren't paid to be complementary scorers. Gaborik worked for LA because Columbus retained 50% of the money. They couldn't afford Gaborik at the full number. Richards was supposed to be the legit 1st line center and he is getting paid like one. 20 goals and 51 points. LA has Kopitar and they needed Columbus to retain the maximum allowed money to make it. The money is a big factor. Players get a certain wage and then they need help to perform. LA also has a 2nd line center in Carter which takes pressure off of Kopitar.
haohmaru
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If we had to trade Staal, my ideal package would be Staal, Dorsett, and Fast or Kristo for Edler and Kassian. Adds a competent defender who can match McD in terms of offense and would play similarly to Stralman defensively, as well as a big 4th liner. After that, find a way to make the contracts work for everyone else.
TheTakedown
Puck is Life
- Jul 11, 2012
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Hows this for next season?
TIght, but it gets the job done.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Joe Pavelski ($6.000m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($1.750m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.750m) / Derick Brassard ($3.700m) / Mats Zuccarello ($3.500m)
Brian Boyle ($2.200m) / Dominic Moore ($1.600m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Conor Allen ($0.925m) / Anton Stralman ($4.000m)
John Moore ($1.400m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,370,833; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $629,167
TIght, but it gets the job done.
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Joe Pavelski ($6.000m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($1.750m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.750m) / Derick Brassard ($3.700m) / Mats Zuccarello ($3.500m)
Brian Boyle ($2.200m) / Dominic Moore ($1.600m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Conor Allen ($0.925m) / Anton Stralman ($4.000m)
John Moore ($1.400m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,370,833; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $629,167
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