Salary Cap: 2014/2015 New York Rangers roster & salary cap
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St. Louis is also a very cap conscious team. They operate under losses many years despite being as successful as they are.
Nash's 7.8 mill would be an undoubted deal breaker. Even Staal's projected 5.5 would likely be too high for them to even take without having to give up young and affordable talent.
They operate under a loss due to 2 factors. 1. They have a horrendous concessions deal that cripples income and 2. People want a deep run. Cap spending won't be the issue as they are targeting Staz and Spez. They are willing to spend,but not on just anyone.
CAREFUL!!!!!!!!
Too many people start to call for trading Stepan/Girardi, I might get lost in the crowd
It probably has more to do with hockey being a difficult sport to sell in that geographic region. The more north you go in the United States, the more popular this sport is, and the more these owners can demand per average ticket.
It's probably relatively cheap to get good seats there. Their profit margin probably isn't very high when considering expenses and selling out the arena for 41 games. The losses probably come from not selling out the arena. Not selling out the arena means that they'll have to lower ticket prices and spend more money on promotions to get more people in. Perpetuating cycle that's really tough financially on those owners.
I imagine Shattenkirk and Oshie will be traded by the time their contracts are up. I believe they each have 2 or 3 more seasons left under their affordable contracts.
I agree that these should be separate.
We want to make the best possible deal.
That is not coke for pepsi.
However, it is not likely we can trade Stepan + for a Getzlaf.
Or Hank for Malkin
Too few elite/premium Cs.
Best option is to get a beast, hold the fort with Miller/maybe Brassard, have the beast at 3C asap.
That might be enough to neutralize a Kopitar or Getzlaf.
So we have to say, if we can bribe a team for a guy like Draisatil with assets that may or may not include Stepan, phase 2 may be to trade Stepan to replace the assets that were traded.
no trades for sake of trades, but no sacred cows either.
Whiplash27
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Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
Yeah, even with retaining some of Nash's contract, and if Nash waives his NTC, I don't think they go for it.
Agreed.
So Brassard do short term, and he might give partial hometown discount if we can assure him of Zuc/Hagelin to play with. We would have to be not greedy about it, but some $ relief I see.
Move Stepan; just be sure to get top dollar.
No,the 90s were a boom for the sport. Go watch late 80s-90s games at the Checkerdome...place was so loud it was like an earthquake in the arena.From what I understand, the Blues had trouble selling out Scott trade until the late..and were forced to relatively lower ticket prices that were more appealing.
Don't know how my un-extensive knowledge of St. Louis would be "laughable". I wasn't claiming to be a know all. Hockey is a tough sell in the south. St. Louis is predominantly a baseball town, not a hockey town. As to the trouble selling out the Scot. yeah one year after lockout when the team was awful. That would be any place.
Love the random passive aggressiveness though.
I've never seen someone so enthused for prospects as you are. And this is coming from someone who holds on for dear hope with any Mets prospects for the last 8 or so years!
Miller as our 2c. I like that.
Brady Skjei hasn't made his decision concerning staying in school or turning pro. His season ended two months ago. Skjei is physically ready for the NHL. His skating ability is top notch. He is taking summer school classes. Rangers prospects camp is in 3 weeks. Maybe Skjei will make his decision after prospects camp. The Rangers and Skjei figure out where he is in his development and when he can play in the NHL. If the Rangers feel Skjei is close to playing in the NHL,they could move Staal in a trade instead of paying him.
The Rangers interviewed Dylan Larkin at the scouting combine last month. They don't have a #1 pick. They could be gathering intel on Larkin and the other prospects for down the road if there a trade possibility. The Rangers liked McDonagh in 2007. He was taken 12th that year. Clark liked him. Gorton was still with Boston at the 2007 combine. In 2009,Gorton and Clark told Sather to acquire McDonagh based on what they saw at the 2007 combine.
https://twitter.com/mikemorrealeNHL/status/471737266130264064
Usually its doesn't take 2 months to make a decision about staying in school.
Maybe the Rangers are looking to shed a contract and looking for a #1 in return as part of the deal.
The Rangers interviewed Dylan Larkin at the scouting combine last month. They don't have a #1 pick. They could be gathering intel on Larkin and the other prospects for down the road if there a trade possibility. The Rangers liked McDonagh in 2007. He was taken 12th that year. Clark liked him. Gorton was still with Boston at the 2007 combine. In 2009,Gorton and Clark told Sather to acquire McDonagh based on what they saw at the 2007 combine.
https://twitter.com/mikemorrealeNHL/status/471737266130264064
Usually its doesn't take 2 months to make a decision about staying in school.
Maybe the Rangers are looking to shed a contract and looking for a #1 in return as part of the deal.
Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
I hope this is what the future holds for us as well, but he just hasn't proven that he can play top 6 minutes yet. I think he should be a bottom 6 player next season until he proves he can play at a higher level. If he comes out of the gate flying, then maybe consider moving him up, but until then, I'm not comfortable putting all of our eggs in his basket.
Wishful thinking.
But if Nash were to waive now (mindful if I am not mistaken he does have change into limited NTC next year), would we be able to do this if we
a) took less
and/or
b) paid more
I'm not sure I see St. Louis doing this.
I would be THRILLED if you could pls make the case that blows me away.
I think MAYBE we can do Nash to Nashville, if we eat full half salary option; then we serious add, we could get decent return.
Otherwise, you're looking at Eric Staal size contract for contract.
ES, is he gonna put out close to 100% or not?
However, we would be moving a W for a C............
Eventually, I believe that the Rangers will trade Nash to recoup some younger assets.
Utterly realistic.
But instead of letting guys walk for nothing, let's use their rights as sweeteners, at min.
TheTakedown
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Can agree with this as well
its either going to be:
Nash
Staal
Girardi
I dont see anyone else netting a large return, and the return for Stepan won't benefit short or long term
Those three players have the greatest trade value that are touchable on this team. The rest of the team stays, as there are no reasons to trade Zucc, Brass, etc
Wait, where did you get that at all from that quote?
There's no way we can keep Stralman and get Edler.
It would likely come down to one of Staal, Stralman and Edler. The two former are both better then Edler IMO.
Buy out no. Trade yes.
If I'm not mistaken we do get change from NMC Nash fully controls to partial NTC next year. So he's going. We all know it, he knows it.
Just a matter of finding a good deal and him realizing at what point, unless there were a lot more tallies and more of those scores clutch, he is a luxury we can't afford. Better to add and pay half his contract (which dramatically ups his value).
But Richards is the one that must be bought out under amnesty.
Vinny DeAngelo
Jimmy Easy to defend
if skjei turns pro i think we move staal.
moving nash needs to be looked into highly...
i think we could get something like Kadri and torontos first for him. Nash has waived to there before and you know they want another scoring winger. if not toronto is also in need of defensemen so maybe girardi to pair with dion for kadri or tht first whichever they want more
moving nash needs to be looked into highly...
i think we could get something like Kadri and torontos first for him. Nash has waived to there before and you know they want another scoring winger. if not toronto is also in need of defensemen so maybe girardi to pair with dion for kadri or tht first whichever they want more
Disagree w/you there, KD.
It's a matter of marrying most complementary talents.
Kreider - Miller - MSL = max speed
this should be the line, and it will be our first or second.
For some reason, every time that I try to respond to one of your posts, my internet wipes out completely. What the hull?
Y u do dis to my wifi, killem?
And, similar to my argument about why Kreider should be on our first line this year, I will make the same one with Miller.
He is regarded as one of our top prospects and he needs as many minutes and exposure to playing with good line mates to develop into the best player he can become.
Hagelin's speed allows him to be defensively more responsible. St. Louis will mentor him as they go. He will learn more from his experience with MSL than any coach can teach him. And he'll be getting 14-17 minutes per game in the hardest league he has yet to play in and master.
Even if he doesn't come out of the gate flying, that spot should be his for at least like 40 games.
It's a matter of logic.
You have premium players, usually you have to send a premium + (or pre elite or elite)*;
You have regular players, usually you have to send regular value +;
Or you have subpar players, which you try to avoid.
* depending on particulars, you want a guy like Getzlaf, he simply may not be available.
Then, you have prospects, where there is potential vs. actual.
Forget the swindle of McDonagh. Big time exception.
But you can get some added consideration in a deal cause you are taking risk.
YES I SAID IT, I ADMITTED IT, WE ARE TAKING RISK.
But there is always some degree of risk.
While it is not 100% across the board in all cases, the better the talent (usually reflected in the pick) the better the likelihood of that talent working out. Some sooner, some later.
You can't get today's Getzlaf today. Fine
Get tom.'s Getzlaf today. While properly discounted, so while expensive, still affordable.
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