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Speculation: 2014 - 2015 New York Rangers :: Roster building / proposal thread Part III

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Matt4776 said:
I still don't get the hate for bridge contracts. For players who are already superstars a la McD, obviously a bridge is the way to go. Thank god we didn't sign MDZ to a long-term extension worth a lot of money, though.
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I've always called deals like Kreider's and Stepan's bridge contracts. They cover the gap between ELC and long-term deals that take a player well into UFA years. McDonagh's not on a bridge. At least one person terms it that way too:

EJ Hradek ‏@EJHradek_NHL 21h
1 Quick thought on the idea that the Habs' combined deals for Subban (bridge & new: 10 yrs, $77.5M) aren't "terrible."
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The bridge was the 2nd contract.

Agreed on MDZ though.
 
Tawnos said:
I've always called deals like Kreider's and Stepan's bridge contracts. They cover the gap between ELC and long-term deals that take a player well into UFA years. McDonagh's not on a bridge. At least one person terms it that way too:



The bridge was the 2nd contract.

Agreed on MDZ though.
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Yeah obviously the bridge deal is the one signed before arbs right to the year before UFA or two years before UFA (in which case the player can Arb himself to UFA).

All players seem prepared to instead of signing a bridge deal sign a 4-5 year deal instead for vey decent money, or even longer (there are a ton of examples of players on insanely good long term deals around 4-6m per).
 
Savant said:
I am far not Girardi's biggest fan but I disagree with this.

Rangers did not give him a 5 year deal to trade him the next season, especially considering they let Stralman walk. There is simply no way they could find a Girardi deal to upgrade their offense while replacing Girardi's minutes on the RH side.

Staal I could see being dealt before Girardi though. Resigning Staal handcuffs them in terms of upgrading the offense due to the salary commitment to Nash, Lundqvist and the top 3 defenders. Could get ugly.
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Since this lends itself to a short response, I will comment.
Rangers gave Girardi 5 cause that was the only way to sign him, unless it was gonna be even more $$ for less years. It is not because they wanted to, Dan had them over a barrel, and they wanted, bottom line to retain an asset.

I have no problem with that. Other than NTC clause, only negative; the $ is not a bargain but we can live with it.

However, now that you addressed priority 1, making sure you don't lose the asset for nothing, now you have to decide: better keeping or flipping. I disagree but respect those who say keep. I concur with careful review of different return scenarios. We only get one shot at moving DG, and it should be for the best return.

Since Girardi is not likely to take a deal anywhere and we currently have flexibility with Staal, we should move Girardi while Kadri remains a viable option. If that changes, we are forced to keep Girardi.

Preferable to control our options than let them control us.
 
Some ‪#‎NYR‬ numbers to announce for the 2014-15 season: Dan Boyle will wear No. 22, Tanner Glass No. 15 and Lee Stempniak No. 12. Forward Jesper Fast will now wear No. 91

you crazy Fast:laugh: no pun intended
 
Fast should be wearing like 43 or something until he actually resembles an nhler.

91 is absurd lol
 
Fast getting #91 leads me to believe that he'll be the 13th forward...

I don't like that, but it is what it is....

Then again I could just be wildly speculating.
 
Its just funny when Fast, for me the hardest Ranger to notice on the ice last year is wearing #91 like he is some insanely talented or flashy player.
 
Jesper Fast was born in 91 and that's probably why he chose that number, nothing more to it.
 
Tawnos said:
I've always called deals like Kreider's and Stepan's bridge contracts. They cover the gap between ELC and long-term deals that take a player well into UFA years. McDonagh's not on a bridge. At least one person terms it that way too:



The bridge was the 2nd contract.

Agreed on MDZ though.
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Oh no I agree. I just had a typo there. I mean't for McD, a bridge isn't the way to go.
 
bernmeister said:
Since this lends itself to a short response, I will comment.
Rangers gave Girardi 5 cause that was the only way to sign him, unless it was gonna be even more $$ for less years. It is not because they wanted to, Dan had them over a barrel, and they wanted, bottom line to retain an asset.

I have no problem with that. Other than NTC clause, only negative; the $ is not a bargain but we can live with it.

However, now that you addressed priority 1, making sure you don't lose the asset for nothing, now you have to decide: better keeping or flipping. I disagree but respect those who say keep. I concur with careful review of different return scenarios. We only get one shot at moving DG, and it should be for the best return.

Since Girardi is not likely to take a deal anywhere and we currently have flexibility with Staal, we should move Girardi while Kadri remains a viable option. If that changes, we are forced to keep Girardi.

Preferable to control our options than let them control us.
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1. If Girardi goes who takes his minutes? Neither Boyle nor Klein can handle that workload.

2. Why is Girardi going to waive his NTC?

3. Kadri is probably not available.

Also remember it is exponentially easier to find a second pairing LHD, (they grow on trees) than a top pair minutes eating RHD. Depth wise, the correct move is to trade Staal.
 
I would trade Girardi instantly — if possible. It's not.

The Run contributed so much to the self esteem of this team. One of the main reasons I wanted Girardi resigned was to do the same, he is core and we were fragile. I don't think we are fragile anymore.

I am sure like Anaheim would have given up Vaatanen and Maroon for Girardi, or something like that. Maroon takes Poos spot and Vaatanen starts behind Klein and Boyle to grow in to the role as Boyles heir.

But Girardi can't be moved. We have to "wait" until the LNTC kicks in...
 
OverTheCap said:
Jesper Fast was born in 91 and that's probably why he chose that number, nothing more to it.
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If it's a sign of the kid being a bit cocky, I'd love that. It's not like he hasn't been extremely "calm" so far.

Fast has potential to be the biggest upset this year. Let's keep our thumbs crossed. He should have another gear in his skating.
 
Aufheben said:
If they were just numbers, they wouldn't be retired by teams. That said, I don't have a problem with Fast wearing 91.
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players make the number that gets retired by an organization. if gretzky didnt wear 99 no one would consider it a sacred number in hockey.
 
Vitto79 said:
Some ‪#‎NYR‬ numbers to announce for the 2014-15 season: Dan Boyle will wear No. 22, Tanner Glass No. 15 and Lee Stempniak No. 12. Forward Jesper Fast will now wear No. 91

you crazy Fast:laugh: no pun intended
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Pretty cool for anyone who had a Brian Boyle jersey. They now have a Dan Boyle jersey since it has the same name and same number on it.

Not sure I've ever seen that happen with the same name AND number.
 
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