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Speculation: 2014 - 2015 New York Rangers :: Roster building / proposal thread Part II

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azaloum90 said:
Redone operational roster:

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Derick Brassard ($4.250m) / Mats Zuccarello ($3.900m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Lee Stempniak ($0.900m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Matthew Lombardi ($0.800m)
Chris Mueller ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Dan Boyle ($4.500m)
John Moore ($1.250m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Matt Hunwick ($0.600m) / Mike Kostka ($0.650m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,431,667; BONUSES: $350,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $568,333
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Demote hunwick and heave 1 million space . Then I'd say it's the way it's gonna be . Tight but rfas will fit
 
Trade Hagelin, Klein + better prospect/pick for Evander Kane
Sign Carcillo + Hayes
Roll The dice on McIllraith ( or Allen)
Let Miller and Lombardi fight ( ev Lindberg too) for The 3C spot

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Derick Brassard ($4.000m) / Mats Zuccarello ($3.600m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m) or Matthew Lombardi ($0.800m) / Lee Stempniak ($0.900m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Kevin Hayes ($0.925m* + deferable bonuses)
Dan Carcillo ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Dan Boyle ($4.500m)
John Moore ($1.100m) / Dylan McIllraith ($0.703)
Mike Kostka ($0.650m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)

BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)

BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,063,833; BONUSES: $591,667 + Hayes bonuses
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $934,167
 
BBKers said:
Trade Hagelin, Klein + better prospect/pick for Evander Kane
Sign Carcillo + Hayes
Roll The dice on McIllraith ( or Allen)
Let Miller and Lombardi fight ( ev Lindberg too) for The 3C spot

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Derick Brassard ($4.000m) / Mats Zuccarello ($3.600m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m) or Matthew Lombardi ($0.800m) / Lee Stempniak ($0.900m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Kevin Hayes ($0.925m* + deferable bonuses)
Dan Carcillo ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Dan Boyle ($4.500m)
John Moore ($1.100m) / Dylan McIllraith ($0.703)
Mike Kostka ($0.650m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)

BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)

BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,063,833; BONUSES: $591,667 + Hayes bonuses
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $934,167
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Yes please...

but that's a joke of an offer for Kane.
 
silverfish said:
Yeah. A trade for Kane more or less starts with Kreider.
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pretty much.. We also need more guys like Kreider, not trade Kreider to get that player.

They are also loaded on the right side.. maybe if they did Staal + for Kane? but that puts us in a **** position if Mcdonagh gets hurt.

I also see Kreider as a 20-25 goal scorer with 50 points in the next year or two that he's going to be on this rather small contract (something around 2.5M after we sign him).
 
SeventySeven said:
The idea is to give Miller a chance to show what he can do, assuming he plays well enough to earn the spot in camp.

But, not every line needs a pure playmaker. It's the THIRD line. They'll be asked to play smart, two-way hockey and provide secondary scoring. We know Hagelin and Stempniak are very effective in that role. Now it's Miller's (or Lindberg's or Lombardi's) chance to prove he can be relied on in that role.
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well said man !
 
NYR2007 said:
I love Moore but he didn't belong on that third line last season

I understand their was an injury etc. But he looked out if place on that zucc line
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on the zucc line, you need brassard or someone of his caliber.. moore doesnt belong there... but for moore to grab a few shifts with hagelin and stempniak... why not? wouldnt be much worse then miller if miller isnt capable of that role
 
LundqvistsEvilTwin said:
on the zucc line, you need brassard or someone of his caliber.. moore doesnt belong there... but for moore to grab a few shifts with hagelin and stempniak... why not? wouldnt be much worse then miller if miller isnt capable of that role
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I'd think Moore would fit better with Hagelin and Stempniak as they all play stout defensive games. Moore was stuck between two players he had nothing in common with in Zucc and Pouliot.
 
silverfish said:
Yeah. A trade for Kane more or less starts with Kreider.
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Why though?

Kane keeps getting hurt and has gotten worse since his 30 goal season.

What's with HFNYR's obsession with Kane?

I wouldn't deal Kreider for Kane.
 
Raspewtin said:
Why though?

Kane keeps getting hurt and has gotten worse since his 30 goal season.

What's with HFNYR's obsession with Kane?

I wouldn't deal Kreider for Kane.
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HFNYR has a Mondego-ian complex.

They want what they don't have, can't take solace in what they do have.
 
Raspewtin said:
Why though?

Kane keeps getting hurt and has gotten worse since his 30 goal season.

What's with HFNYR's obsession with Kane?

I wouldn't deal Kreider for Kane.
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There's a difference between having an obsession and realizing what fair value is.

Rust Heisenberg said:
HFNYR has a Mondego-ian complex.

They want what they don't have, can't take solace in what they do have.
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HFNYR also has a complex about overrating their own players. This is not specific to HFNYR, though. It happens any time you talk about sports no matter what. I get it.

Hell, I don't even want Kane that badly. I was just making a point that if Hagelin + Klein + Prospect is what Sather picks up the phone and offers, Cheyadlfknefon (sp?) hangs up the phone laughing.

People need to start thinking about offers like this. We get that what the offer is helps the Rangers, but how can you benefit the other team, too? Other GMs aren't just going to hand us pieces of their team for our **** that doesn't fit anymore. Trades need to be duly beneficial.
 
silverfish said:
There's a difference between having an obsession and realizing what fair value is.
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That wasn't necessarily directed at you. It's directed at HF NYR always vying for Kane specifically. Not a Kane-type of player. Specifically Kane. It's annoying, he's not even that good.
 
Rust Heisenberg said:
HFNYR has a Mondego-ian complex.

They want what they don't have, can't take solace in what they do have.
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we as a nyr fan base need to stop thinking of trades that involve giving up all our talent for guys who have won nothing (thornton). it makes more sense to make smaller deals and snag players like jordie benn, tarasenko, shaw, ect, ect.. so many times have we tried to get the guy to do it all (drury,naslund,redden,gomez,gaborik) nd it has never worked out... build a team that can compete for years, dont build a team that puts pressure on one guy to do it all (nash)
 
If we're trading with the Jets, I'd rather look for Scheiffle, Trouba, Bogosian, or Ladd. But it's not worth what we'd have to trade away.
 
LundqvistsEvilTwin said:
brassard, staal for little,stuart
if were really giving up to much ask them to add x player/draft pick
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If the Jets blow it up, they wouldn't want a 27 year old who could conceivably be a UFA next year, and a player who is slate to be a UFA next year.

It'd be Brassard and (good) prospects probably.
 
JeffMangum said:
If the Jets blow it up, they wouldn't want a 27 year old who could conceivably be a UFA next year, and a player who is slate to be a UFA next year.

It'd be Brassard and (good) prospects probably.
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ill do that deal, wtv the prospect is to be.. little is locked up and at a cheaper cost then wtv brassard will ask for, we keep our d core and get an upgrade on center not to mention give zucc a right handed center who can finish off zuccs passes, give staal nd stepan the 6m they want next year even
 
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