Proposal: 2013 Offseason: UFAs, Trades, and Potential Buyouts | Part II

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Micklebot

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I think that whoever we get is going to end up being out of left field. Like Sharp or Marleau (though my #1 choice is still Eriksson).

If we could get one of those three and then sign Ian White or something we would be looking pretty good for next season (assuming a healthy line-up).

I could see us signing White or Rozsival as a potential botom 4 dman who could play on the PP.

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-White/Rozsival
Wiercioch-Phillips
Gryba

There will always be injuries so Gryba will get in the lineup, and he can be swapped in for Wiercioch or whoever is under performing.

Phillips hasn't looked bad in his limited time with either Wiercioch or Cowen, so they could be flipped if it makes for better chemistry.
 

TheBradyBunch

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I think that whoever we get is going to end up being out of left field. Like Sharp or Marleau (though my #1 choice is still Eriksson).

If we could get one of those three and then sign Ian White or something we would be looking pretty good for next season (assuming a healthy line-up).

I doubt Sharp, but Marleau actually makes a lot of sense. He didnt have a good year at all last year, even after that amazing start he was only on pace for about 50 pts.
 

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what about david booth from vancouver? He is a decent power forward , has 2 years left on his contract at 4.25 could probably be had fairly cheap and would be a decent option to play with spezza and michalek.

Not my first choice but seems like a solid plan b or c and realistic.
 

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booth is injury prone and is done imo

wouldnt mind Byfuglien...even at his weight he is a very good player but i doubt winnipeg deals him
 

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I think Wiercioch is a weird spot right now. I think the team would correctly prefer to have a solid shutdown guy in the 5/6 slot beside Phillips. Wiercioch is more of an offensive player with great passing ability and the potential to run the #2 powerplay unit now that Gonchar is gone. The thing is that Wiercioch is not particularly suited to top 4 minutes either, because he still needs to be sheltered against the toughest opponents and minutes. I think his name comes up in trade rumors on a semi-regular basis because he is a solid asset who could help a lot of teams, but he may not be the best fit for the Sens at the moment.

How many shutdown guys do we need? Phillips, Gryba, Methot & Cowen.

Wiercioch offense and puck movement is what we need at this time

Briere would be welcomed with open arms. We wouldn't have to give up anything of value (third rounder at most). Murray has already stated that their biggest need is a first line winger. Briere is not that. It obviously wouldn't be the only move or addition the Sens make. Briere wouldn't be playing on our first line.

The one thing we lack all season long was scoring. Briere, although he has regressed from his Buffalo and early Philly days, will still provide scoring from a second or third line role.

I would much rather add a first line forward forward than Briere, but I would rather add a first line forward, and Briere to a third line role. We would have a constant scoring threat in our top 3 lines.

9MM-Spezza-xxxx
Alfie-Turris-Silfverberg
Zibby-Pageau-Briere
Greening-Smith-Neil

(Obviously one or two of these guys could go for the first line winger, opening up room for Condra or Camp darkhorse)

Those top 3 lines seem dangerous to me.

If his salary is 3M and 2M, with a cap hit of 5M, a few teams will be after him. It will cost definitely more than a 3rd rounder to grab him.
 

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If his salary is 3M and 2M, with a cap hit of 5M, a few teams will be after him. It will cost definitely more than a 3rd rounder to grab him.

You are forgetting that he has a no trade clause. A few teams may be after him but he has to be interested in those teams as well.
 

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I would rather have Condra on the 3rd line than Briere to be honest. Even if we don't trade for a top line forward we're looking at a glut of winger talent in the system that needs space. Bringing someone in on a downswing in their career with recent injury issues related to concussions isn't helping the team much (IMO).

Right now I have to reserve my judgment on this team's make-up until after we find out what Murray does this summer. I want to know if we're making a big deal or not, and who goes. If we don't make a significant deal I'm still at a loss how to fit everyone in that's looking for a spot.

Pageau, Stone, Da Costa, Hoffman, Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch, Dziurzynski, Benoit, Sdao, OBrien and maybe Ceci, Prince and Noesen are all guys that will be knocking at the door. Logic says something has to happen.
 

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i dont know i think id take a flyer on Byfuglien.
3 more years $5.2 cap hit.
53 points last year
on pace for 53pts this year.

an absolute Canon of a shot, averages between 15 - 20 goals.
AND shoots right.

Thats a laaaaarge pairing, Cowen and DB. 6'5" 235# and 6'5" err...variable weight.

anyone want that? looks they need forwards. dont know what they be asking for.
 

Micklebot

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i dont know i think id take a flyer on Byfuglien.
3 more years $5.2 cap hit.
53 points last year
on pace for 53pts this year.

an absolute Canon of a shot, averages between 15 - 20 goals.
AND shoots right.

Thats a laaaaarge pairing, Cowen and DB. 6'5" 235# and 6'5" err...variable weight.

anyone want that? looks they need forwards. dont know what they be asking for.

Can't see why you wouldn't take a flyer on him. He's a 50+ point defenceman that plays the right side. He skates well even at his size, and while he isn't tremendous defensively, he's more than adequate for a guy putting up those points. Be great for our PP too.

The only thing I see as a negative is what will it cost, and his actual salary is higher than his cap hit (bad for our internal budget). They don't need a LW so that eliminates Michalek and Conacher I would think, what they seem to need is a top 6 C or RW, and on our team that means Turris, Zibanejad, Silfverberg or Spezza(not happening).
 

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Pageau, Stone, Da Costa, Hoffman, Borowiecki, Gryba, Wiercioch, Dziurzynski, Benoit, Sdao, OBrien and maybe Ceci, Prince and Noesen are all guys that will be knocking at the door. Logic says something has to happen.

Gryba and Wiercioch aren't knocking at the door, they've entered the room.

Da Costa and Stone look like trade bait at the moment IMO. Dziurzynski is a dime a dozen bottom six forward. Benoit is either out of here or our 7th D. O'Brien is long gone.

Only guys who are really knocking at the door IMO are Pageau, Hoffman, Borowiecki and the long shots Sdao, Ceci, Prince, Noesen.
 

YNWA14

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I dunno. I think there's potential to do something really neat this off-season and set up the team for the foreseeable future. My dream summer...lol

Move Cowen + Da Costa for Oiler's 7th overall.
Move Zibanejad + Puempel/Stone + 3rd for Eriksson.
Sign Jordan Leopold.

Draft Lindholm/Monahan and Rychel/Pulock.

Eriksson - Spezza - Silfverberg
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Conacher - Lindholm/Monahan/Pageau - Condra
Greening - Smith - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Leopold - Wiercioch
Phillips - Gryba/Sdao/Ceci

Anderson
Lehner

Meh. Dreaming over. It'll probably be an uneventful summer as usual.
 

Tampacuseforever

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Gryba and Wiercioch aren't knocking at the door, they've entered the room.

Da Costa and Stone look like trade bait at the moment IMO. Dziurzynski is a dime a dozen bottom six forward. Benoit is either out of here or our 7th D. O'Brien is long gone.

Only guys who are really knocking at the door IMO are Pageau, Hoffman, Borowiecki and the long shots Sdao, Ceci, Prince, Noesen.

I totally agree with this.
 

Tampacuseforever

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I dunno. I think there's potential to do something really neat this off-season and set up the team for the foreseeable future. My dream summer...lol

Move Cowen + Da Costa for Oiler's 7th overall.
Move Zibanejad + Puempel/Stone + 3rd for Eriksson.
Sign Jordan Leopold.

Draft Lindholm/Monahan and Rychel/Pulock.

Eriksson - Spezza - Silfverberg
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Conacher - Lindholm/Monahan/Pageau - Condra
Greening - Smith - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Leopold - Wiercioch
Phillips - Gryba/Sdao/Ceci

Anderson
Lehner

Meh. Dreaming over. It'll probably be an uneventful summer as usual.

Giving up a whole lot of our youth and future for a team that I don't really know if it is any better than what we would have standing pat.
 

Daffy

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I dunno. I think there's potential to do something really neat this off-season and set up the team for the foreseeable future. My dream summer...lol

Move Cowen + Da Costa for Oiler's 7th overall.
Move Zibanejad + Puempel/Stone + 3rd for Eriksson.
Sign Jordan Leopold.

Draft Lindholm/Monahan and Rychel/Pulock.

Eriksson - Spezza - Silfverberg
Michalek - Turris - Alfredsson
Conacher - Lindholm/Monahan/Pageau - Condra
Greening - Smith - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Leopold - Wiercioch
Phillips - Gryba/Sdao/Ceci

Anderson
Lehner

Meh. Dreaming over. It'll probably be an uneventful summer as usual.


I'd rather try and sign one of Scuderi or Ference on D, and keep Cowen.

I like Eriksson, but I think he's a tad overrated on this board. Also coming off an awful season.

I think Ottawa will make a splash in the trade market, but this is not the moves I'd make personally.
 

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Gryba and Wiercioch aren't knocking at the door, they've entered the room.

Da Costa and Stone look like trade bait at the moment IMO. Dziurzynski is a dime a dozen bottom six forward. Benoit is either out of here or our 7th D. O'Brien is long gone.

Only guys who are really knocking at the door IMO are Pageau, Hoffman, Borowiecki and the long shots Sdao, Ceci, Prince, Noesen.

Lol how is Stone trade bait? The organization is very high on him and he was the only one of the black aces who actually practiced with the team during the playoffs. They actually had him practicing with the team as soon as the black aces squad was called up.
 

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If it means his value is lower, I would take a chance on Byfuglien.

This. If we can get Buff for a significant discount based on his weight then we should go for it. Maybe a Michalek for Big Buff trade could be made.
 

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If Weir is playing in our top 4 he needs to gain an ADDITIONAL 20lbs. The dude gets knocked off the puck way way way too easily.

Turris was a lot better this year with the weight gain. Stronger with the puck and more engaged physically. Weir needs to add massive strength
 

Tampacuseforever

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Lol how is Stone trade bait? The organization is very high on him and he was the only one of the black aces who actually practiced with the team during the playoffs. They actually had him practicing with the team as soon as the black aces squad was called up.

Because you have to give up something to get something. Seems logical a high profile guy who could be had for a decent return.
 

Micklebot

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This. If we can get Buff for a significant discount based on his weight then we should go for it. Maybe a Michalek for Big Buff trade could be made.
With Ladd and Kane playing the LW, I doubt the move for Michalek.
If Weir is playing in our top 4 he needs to gain an ADDITIONAL 20lbs. The dude gets knocked off the puck way way way too easily.

Turris was a lot better this year with the weight gain. Stronger with the puck and more engaged physically. Weir needs to add massive strength

If we trade for Buff, we can maybe make him room with Wier on the road and have his eating habits rub off. That should put on those 20 lbs in no time.
 
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