Proposal: 2013 Offseason: UFAs, Trades, and Potential Buyouts | Part II

[YNWA14]

No, it wouldn't. Two first rounders for one is plenty. Especially with Zibanejad looking so poised and ready this past season. It's overpayment, but Zib + 1st is what Tampa would likely want to move out of the #3 slot. Any more and you're setting yourself up for failure.

I guarantee everyone outside of the Ottawa fan base laughs that offer off the table. Nobody would trade one of Mac, Drouin or Jones for Zibanejad and the 17th.

 

[saskriders]

Lindholm please

btw: what do you think it what take to get Edmonton's pick?

Our first + what?

 

[BondraTime]

I guarantee everyone outside of the Ottawa fan base laughs that offer off the table. Nobody would trade one of Mac, Drouin or Jones for Zibanejad and the 17th.

Agreed, the top 3 picks in this draft would cost a lot. I would think all of Calgary's firsts this year would not be enough, and that package of 6th, 22nd and 28th Is more valuable than Zibby and 17 (which is a very, very good package)

 

[Benjamin]

Lindholm please

btw: what do you think it what take to get Edmonton's pick?

Our first + what?

im sure they would want Weircioch or Smith.

 

[Pavlikovsky]

Lindholm please

btw: what do you think it what take to get Edmonton's pick?

Our first + what?

I think Calgary would pick him so we would have to trade to 6
1st + 2014 2nd + Puempel + DaCosta probably more

 

[WhiteLight*]

Michalek + 17th for 7th if Monahan is there

 

[saskriders]

im sure they would want Weircioch or Smith.

Would be okay with Smith, but would rather prefer to keep him. Want to keep Weir too. But would be willing to give up Puempel or Noesen

Michalek + 17th for 7th if Monahan is there

Why would we need another centre? I know he could switch, but we have 7 guys who played centre in the NHL last year, 8 if we resign Regin. Would rather take a natural winger, or someone who has at least played wing in junior.

 

[WhiteLight*]

Why would we need another centre? I know he could switch, but we have 7 guys who played centre in the NHL last year, 8 if we resign Regin. Would rather take a natural winger, or someone who has at least played wing in junior.

Why did you suggest Lindholm then?


Monahan
Turris
Zibanejad

 

[saskriders]

Why did you suggest Lindholm then?


Monahan
Turris
Zibanejad

Lindholm has played wing. He is even listed as a C/RW. Even if he is better at centre the Swedish connection could be good for all the young Swedes. It isn't easy to move across the world as a teenager/early 20s, but it would help to do it with someone else. Would benefit Karlsson, Lehner, Silf, and Zib in my opinion.

Also, there is no way that Monahan is ready to be #1 centre, or even a #2 next year

 

[WhiteLight*]

Lindholm has played wing. He is even listed as a C/RW. Even if he is better at centre the Swedish connection could be good for all the young Swedes. It isn't easy to move across the world as a teenager/early 20s, but it would help to do it with someone else. Would benefit Karlsson, Lehner, Silf, and Zib in my opinion.

It's nice that he's Swedish but Monahan is already playing in Ottawa and has the Ceci-Prince connection.



OK Lindholm could play the wing but he isn't a ''natural winger'' like you're suggesting

Also, there is no way that Monahan is ready to be #1 centre, or even a #2 next year

Monahan would return to junior obviously. That wasn't for next year, it's for the future

 

[Benjamin]

I think Monahan could play on the 3rd line next season. After a summer of training + his reDQless hockey IQ, i dont see why he cant be in the NHL.

 

[WhiteLight*]

I think Monahan could play on the 3rd line next season.

And then he'd become Burmistrov or Couturier offensively. Let him go back to junior and dominate and keep developing his offense. He's a late 94 so he could even play in the AHL in 2014-15.

 

[BonkTastic]

I think Monahan could play on the 3rd line next season. After a summer of training + his reDQless hockey IQ, i dont see why he cant be in the NHL.

I don't think a lot of people would disagree that there are a number of guys drafted each year who could play 3rd/4th line minutes in the NHL as an 18 year old.

The issue is whether doing so is in the best interest of their long-term development. Unless we're talking about truly generational talents here, I'm almost completely against 18 year olds playing in the NHL. A handful of players can do it, but for the most part it's just a bad idea.

You COULD pick that tomato right now and it would be pretty ok, but if you leave it on the vine another few weeks, it'll be delicious.

 

[WhiteLight*]

I don't think a lot of people would disagree that there are a number of guys drafted each year who could play 3rd/4th line minutes in the NHL as an 18 year old.

The issue is whether doing so is in the best interest of their long-term development. Unless we're talking about truly generational talents here, I'm almost completely against 18 year olds playing in the NHL. A handful of players can do it, but for the most part it's just a bad idea.

You COULD pick that tomato right now and it would be pretty ok, but if you leave it on the vine another few weeks, it'll be delicious.

This, except tomatoes are gross no matter what

 

[saskriders]

It's nice that he's Swedish but Monahan is already playing in Ottawa and has the Ceci-Prince connection.

It's not just that he is Swedish. It is that

-He could play our weakest position
-Alfie, and other players could help him adjust to NHL and North American life
-He could help other key young players adjust to NHL and North American life.

Monahan has only (or at least almost always) played our deepest position.

 

[WhiteLight*]

It's not just that he is Swedish. It is that

-He could play our weakest position
-Alfie, and other players could help him adjust to NHL and North American life
-He could help other key young players adjust to NHL and North American life.

Monahan has only (or at least almost always) played our deepest position.

Monahan is a future replacement for Spezza. Being a C is a non-issue


So it's a positive for Lindholm that his adjustment could be eased, but it's a negative (or not simply not a positive) for Monahan that he doesn't even need that adjustment in the first place?

 

[Benjamin]

I don't think a lot of people would disagree that there are a number of guys drafted each year who could play 3rd/4th line minutes in the NHL as an 18 year old.

The issue is whether doing so is in the best interest of their long-term development. Unless we're talking about truly generational talents here, I'm almost completely against 18 year olds playing in the NHL. A handful of players can do it, but for the most part it's just a bad idea.

You COULD pick that tomato right now and it would be pretty ok, but if you leave it on the vine another few weeks, it'll be delicious.

I'd have no problem with Monahan in the OHL for another year but I think the NHL would better for him. Even so, due to the depth of the Sens I think he would be sent back anyways.

 

[saskriders]

Monahan is a future replacement for Spezza. Being a C is a non-issue


So it's a positive for Lindholm that his adjustment could be eased, but it's a negative (or not simply not a positive) for Monahan that he doesn't even need that adjustment in the first place?

If he is a future replacement for Spezza then what happens to one of Turris/Zib/Pageau.

Best case scenario Spezza has 10+ years in him. Worst case scenario we have replacements, and can pick up a cheep 4th line centre. Centre is already rebuilt.

 

[WhiteLight*]

If he is a future replacement for Spezza then what happens to one of Turris/Zib/Pageau.

Best case scenario Spezza has 10+ years in him. Worst case scenario we have replacements, and can pick up a cheep 4th line centre. Centre is already rebuilt.

I'd stick with Spezza for a few more years and when Monahan is ready for prime time I'd trade Spezza


Monahan
Turris
Zibanejad
Pageau




Stanley Cup baby

 

[Sensinitis]

If he is a future replacement for Spezza then what happens to one of Turris/Zib/Pageau.

Best case scenario Spezza has 10+ years in him. Worst case scenario we have replacements, and can pick up a cheep 4th line centre. Centre is already rebuilt.

That's extremely optimistic. Best case scenario Spezza probably has 6+ years in him.

 

[saskriders]

I'd stick with Spezza for a few more years and when Monahan is ready for prime time I'd trade Spezza


Monahan
Turris
Zibanejad
Pageau




Stanley Cup baby

What is wrong with

Spezza
Turris
Zibanejad
Pageau

 

[WhiteLight*]

Boston, LA, SJS, Detroit, formerly Philly, all have ''too many centres'' and it's worked great for them

 

[saskriders]

That's extremely optimistic. Best case scenario Spezza probably has 6+ years in him.

Players going into their 40s is getting more common, although Spezza has had back problems. Regardless I said best case, and that we already have possible replacements in the system.

 

[WhiteLight*]

What is wrong with

Spezza
Turris
Zibanejad
Pageau

Nothing really, but it's all down hill from here for Spezz, someone will need to take his place eventually.

 

[aragorn]

I would guess that BM is not going to trade away any players that are going to help this team move to the next level, that is to say, do better in the playoffs which Michalek would for a 2013 draft pick who will not be NHL ready for a few yrs. It just makes no sense. The Ottawa Senators are on the verge of getting to the next level, why would they make their team worse? They will trade for someone they feel they don't need at this time for someone who will help them get to the next level, that makes sense but not set them back.

If they trade anyone at the draft it will be guys that are not in their future plans, I would guess Da Costa, JOB, maybe Conacher, Condra, Filatov (if anyone would even want him) & Petersson. It's not enough to move up very far but I doubt they move at all, it's too costly & BM won't overpay. It's all hype IMO to get interest, I doubt they do anything. I think they will be happy to draft at 17 unless someone makes them a deal they can't refuse.