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Speculation: 2013 Offseason Thread Part VI: Vinny Lecavalier chooses Philly (5 years, $4.5M per)

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It looks to me like we're going to have $2-3m to add a depth D and/or another winger. Not a whole lot to work with.
 
Tawnos said:
It looks to me like we're going to have $2-3m to add a depth D and/or another winger. Not a whole lot to work with.
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depends if Sather can move any of Asham, Powe or Pyatt.. That would really help. let Haley center the 4th line with Boyle and Dorsett on the wing.. that would be alot of savings right there.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
depends if Sather can move any of Asham, Powe or Pyatt.. That would really help. let Haley center the 4th line with Boyle and Dorsett on the wing.. that would be alot of savings right there.
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One of those three will be our 13th forward. Besides, no need to trade players that you can just demote.

I'm not a big believer it building a roster that forces you to make decisions on who makes the team based on the Cap.
 
I really want Cal Clutterbuck. He's available. Great 3rd line addition in my opinion.
 
I'm telling you guys, I say it every thread. Deal DZ for a first and a winger. Sign Nystrom. Sign Roszival. Let's go to work with that team.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Hagelin - Brassard - Callahan
DZ Winger - Richards - Zuccs
Nystrom - Boyle - Dorsett
Asham

Staal - G
McD - Stralman
Moore - Rozy
Eminger

Hank

Waive or Deal Powe for a late pick or like a 6th in 2014. Let Haley battle Asham for the extra forward spot, and hope he wins it to save some money on the cap by losing Asham. Thomas and another forward (Jean? Newbury? Fast? Lindberg?) will likely start the year in NY due to injuries to Hags and Callahan. Will they play well enough to keep their spots? Also think the team might stick with Pyatt instead of opting for Nystrom, as Pyatt and AV have a history.

Not a lot of turnover. Look at Chicago. By my count, 13 players who played on opening night for them in 2011-2012 just won the cup. Thirteen.

By comparison, the Rangers team that opened in 11/12 had just 10 of the same players to the team that finished the season this past year. Too much turnover all the time with this team.

I liked our team on paper that ended last season. Let's give these guys a shot under a new coach. No need to add a big name FA this year. Let other teams bid themselves into cap hell.
 
kenjets36 said:
I really want Cal Clutterbuck. He's available. Great 3rd line addition in my opinion.
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I don't see how we have any room for him cap-wise.

Although I think he would make our team that much deeper.

Kreider Stepan Nash
Zuccarello Brassard Callahan
Hagelin Richards Clutterbuck
Asham/Haley Boyle Dorsett

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Del Zotto
Moore Stralman
 
Lundsanity30 said:
depends if Sather can move any of Asham, Powe or Pyatt.. That would really help. let Haley center the 4th line with Boyle and Dorsett on the wing.. that would be alot of savings right there.
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other teams would trade Boyle and give Oscar Lindberg a real look to make the team. lets hope Sather dumps Boyle's salary. he is overpaid for what he does... Lindberg deserves a shot.. a lot of players come from the SEL and make the NHL without time in the AHL... let's see if Lindberg can do that..
 
MacTruck said:
I don't see how we have any room for him cap-wise.

Although I think he would make our team that much deeper.

Kreider Stepan Nash
Zuccarello Brassard Callahan
Clutterbuck Richards Hagelin
Asham/Haley Boyle Dorsett

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Del Zotto
Moore Stralman
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Switch Hags and Zuccs. No need to play them where they're not comfortable.
 
silverfish said:
I'm telling you guys, I say it every thread. Deal DZ for a first and a winger. Sign Nystrom. Sign Roszival. Let's go to work with that team.

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Hagelin - Brassard - Callahan
DZ Winger - Richards - Zuccs
Nystrom - Boyle - Dorsett
Asham

Staal - G
McD - Stralman
Moore - Rozy
Eminger

Hank

Waive or Deal Powe for a late pick or like a 6th in 2014. Let Haley battle Asham for the extra forward spot, and hope he wins it to save some money on the cap by losing Asham. Thomas and another forward (Jean? Newbury? Fast? Lindberg?) will likely start the year in NY due to injuries to Hags and Callahan. Will they play well enough to keep their spots? Also think the team might stick with Pyatt instead of opting for Nystrom, as Pyatt and AV have a history.

Not a lot of turnover. Look at Chicago. By my count, 13 players who played on opening night for them in 2011-2012 just won the cup. Thirteen.

By comparison, the Rangers team that opened in 11/12 had just 10 of the same players to the team that finished the season this past year. Too much turnover all the time with this team.

I liked our team on paper that ended last season. Let's give these guys a shot under a new coach. No need to add a big name FA this year. Let other teams bid themselves into cap hell.
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I would like someone better than a 3rd liner for Del Zotto
 
Lundsanity30 said:
depends if Sather can move any of Asham, Powe or Pyatt.. That would really help. let Haley center the 4th line with Boyle and Dorsett on the wing.. that would be alot of savings right there.
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reality is any 12/13 F likely makes 700K to a million. Another Rupp for Powe type deal involving Pyatt this time will save around 500K
 
MacTruck said:
I don't see how we have any room for him cap-wise.

Although I think he would make our team that much deeper.

Kreider Stepan Nash
Zuccarello Brassard Callahan
Hagelin Richards Clutterbuck
Asham/Haley Boyle Dorsett

McDonagh Girardi
Staal Del Zotto
Moore Stralman
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Clutterbuck makes the same as Brian Boyle... Boyle is gonna make 1.8 next year :shakehead let's hope Sather trades him at the draft. :yo:
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
other teams would trade Boyle and give Oscar Lindberg a real look to make the team. lets hope Sather dumps Boyle's salary. he is overpaid for what he does... Lindberg deserves a shot.. a lot of players come from the SEL and make the NHL without time in the AHL... let's see if Lindberg can do that..
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possible.. either way, we just need a competent bottom 6. that goes along way in being a contender.
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
other teams would trade Boyle and give Oscar Lindberg a real look to make the team. lets hope Sather dumps Boyle's salary. he is overpaid for what he does... Lindberg deserves a shot.. a lot of players come from the SEL and make the NHL without time in the AHL... let's see if Lindberg can do that..
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they dealt a 3rd for Boyle when he was not established so if they can somehow get a 2nd or even the 3rd back in this yrs draft I agree its a good move.

Cant really bank on Lindberg but he may be ready. Worst case is sign a 4th liner like Lapierre or Hendriks for less than the 1.7 Boyle made and its a good deal. They have Richards, Stepan, Brassard down the pipe anyway. Just get a cheaper faceoff/PK guy
 
Vitto79 said:
they dealt a 3rd for Boyle when he was not established so if they can somehow get a 2nd or even the 3rd back in this yrs draft I agree its a good move.

Cant really bank on Lindberg but he may be ready. Worst case is sign a 4th liner like Lapierre or Hendriks for less than the 1.7 Boyle made and its a good deal. They have Richards, Stepan, Brassard down the pipe anyway. Just get a cheaper faceoff/PK guy
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sign Lapierre trade Boyle. Lapierre brings more energy, Rangers seem to need that at times last year.. Lappy Haley Dorsett on the team at certain times can help the Rangers... Boyle slows the pace too much. Rangers need more speed in the lineup that can put up pts not guys like Powe. Powe will make $1,150,000 next year :help: trade him too please http://capgeek.com/player/753
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
Clutterbuck makes the same as Brian Boyle... Boyle is gonna make 1.8 next year :shakehead let's hope Sather trades him at the draft. :yo:
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Is Dorsett not the same as Clutterbuck, some team will have a great player in Clutterbuck but I dont think the Rangers need to go there since they have a similar player

Bolye is tradeable even at 2 million actual bucks, less on the cap.

As for DZ if they move him they need a RD and an offensive guy, Free Agents get overpaid so I would expect a young offensive RD back in a DZ deal even though yea they need a top 6 winger. Good change DZ is gone or again a balzy Staal deal
 
Vitto79 said:
Is Dorsett not the same as Clutterbuck, some team will have a great player in Clutterbuck but I dont think the Rangers need to go there since they have a similar player

Bolye is tradeable even at 2 million actual bucks, less on the cap.

As for DZ if they move him they need a RD and an offensive guy, Free Agents get overpaid so I would expect a young offensive RD back in a DZ deal even though yea they need a top 6 winger. Good change DZ is gone or again a balzy Staal deal
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no Clutterbuck is more skilled and more of a 3rd liner than Dorsett.. Clutterbuck scored 19 goals a few years ago...
 
Vitto79 said:
Is Dorsett not the same as Clutterbuck, some team will have a great player in Clutterbuck but I dont think the Rangers need to go there since they have a similar player

Bolye is tradeable even at 2 million actual bucks, less on the cap.

As for DZ if they move him they need a RD and an offensive guy, Free Agents get overpaid so I would expect a young offensive RD back in a DZ deal even though yea they need a top 6 winger. Good change DZ is gone or again a balzy Staal deal
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Clutterbuck is a lot stronger on his skates, a lot stronger along the boards.
 
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