Speculation: 2013 Offseason Thread Part VI: Buyout Season

[iamitter]

Hjalmarsson and Bickell's rights for Gagner and a pick.

That doesn't seem outlandish at all. Actually makes a ton of sense.

 

[Josh3217]

Small and soft, brah.

Stralman is EONS better than O'Brien.

I agree Stralman is better. It wasn't meant to be in specific order except for our top 3 are obviously Mcd G Staal.

 

[iamitter]

Why is Stralman the 7th Dman?

Because while O'Brien doesn't even bring 1/10 of what Stralman does in terms of puck moving, is a much slower skater and worse defender, he has "grit", "sandpaper" and "toughness".

I agree Stralman is better. It wasn't meant to be in specific order except for our top 3 are obviously Mcd G Staal.

My apologies, in that case. I thought you were one of those get tougher at all costs people.

 

[Tawnos]

Small and soft, brah.

Stralman is EONS better than O'Brien.

Just as a random aside, but I love when people use measures of time for that kind of thing.

 

[Josh3217]

Because while O'Brien doesn't even bring 1/10 of what Stralman does in terms of puck moving, is a much slower skater and worse defender, he has "grit", "sandpaper" and "toughness".



My apologies, in that case. I thought you were one of those get tougher at all costs people.

Would you like that lineup? OBrien as a 7th? Or would Eminger be a better option? I would rather have someone with grit and toughness and be a decent hockey player rather than just having a tough guy. For example guys like Orpik, Boychuk, Regehr, etc..

 

[Thirty One]

Just as a random aside, but I love when people use measures of time for that kind of thing.

The correct term would have been oodles.

 

[Tawnos]

The correct term would have been oodles.

I'm also partial to scads

 

[Josh3217]

People misunderstand my feelings about toughness and soft players. Obviously you can't have a whole team of tough players. I am not for that. Look at Boston, toughest team in the league. But they also have skill with Krejci, Seguin, Bergeron and more. But they also have half of their team if not more of guys that don't take s***. They play physical and they push back. That is what I like and that is what I want. I want more toughness in the bottom six instead of having Zuccarello on the 3rd line.

 

[jniklast]

Just as a random aside, but I love when people use measures of time for that kind of thing.

What's the correct unit for hockey skill?

 

[Josh3217]

Whats the deal with guys like Matt Beleskey, Zack Smith, and Kyle Clifford? Any interest for the bottom 6?

 

[iamitter]

Would you like that lineup? OBrien as a 7th? Or would Eminger be a better option? I would rather have someone with grit and toughness and be a decent hockey player rather than just having a tough guy. For example guys like Orpik, Boychuk, Regehr, etc..

I like Eminger as a 7th. He's a good soldier and does what's asked of him. I would love old-Orpik but he kinda sucks now. Hopefully McIlrath can be our Orpik.

I like toughness, but not at the expense of skill generally. I think getting toughness is overrated especially in players who won't play much. Young, hungry players generally bring that edge and if they are fast, I'd like them on our 4th line over goons. Trouble is, we seem to have a problem finding those players. And those top 6 players that have an edge are very, very rare.

 

[Trxjw]

That doesn't seem outlandish at all. Actually makes a ton of sense.

It does make sense, but I think the Hawks will do whatever they can to keep Bickell.

 

[iamitter]

Whats the deal with guys like Matt Beleskey, Zack Smith, and Kyle Clifford? Any interest for the bottom 6?

Clifford would be amazing. Unfortunately, he'd cost an arm and a leg.

 

[Thirty One]

Clifford would be amazing. Unfortunately, he'd cost an arm and a leg.

Bickel's?

 

[Josh3217]

Clifford would be amazing. Unfortunately, he'd cost an arm and a leg.

From what I have been reading Cory Sarich and Curtis Glencross are available. That would be a nice top 9 forward and bottom pairing dman. I would have more interest in Glencross especially if CGY keeps a little salary.

 

[iamitter]

It does make sense, but I think the Hawks will do whatever they can to keep Bickell.

I think he outpriced himself after these playoffs for them, frankly.

And Gagner would be too tempting. They need that 2C.

 

[OnTheBrink]

would Ranger fans be interested in a deal around: tweak as necessary:

7th overall + 2nd rounder + N. Schultz + Rajala for MDZ + Miller

 

[Doctyl]

would Ranger fans be interested in a deal around: tweak as necessary:

7th overall + 2nd rounder + N. Schultz + Rajala for MDZ + Miller

interesting, would want more proven talent though if we are dealing DZ and Miller

 

[iamitter]

Bickel's?

I'd saw them off myself.

 

[iamitter]

would Ranger fans be interested in a deal around: tweak as necessary:

7th overall + 2nd rounder + N. Schultz + Rajala for MDZ + Miller

Don't see the need for Schultz or the 2nd. Don't know much about Rajala. I don't think NYR brass will give up Miller, though. They seem entranced by him.

I could see a deal based around Del Zotto and the 7th or MDZ+Miller+ for Yakupov, but that's about it.

 

[alkurtz]

I'm also partial to scads

Light years? Parsecs?

 

[OnTheBrink]

interesting, would want more proven talent though if we are dealing DZ and Miller

you can have horcoff @ 50% retained aswell if that sweetens it.

 

[Josh3217]

I am an advocate for change! My favorite parts of hockey is the Draft, Trade Deadline, and Free Agency. I love transactions that is why I put out so many lineups and have so many "pipe dreams".

 

[Doctyl]

MDZ+Miller for Eberle/Yaks?

 

[iamitter]

Light years? Parsecs?

The two are pretty akin. The difference between them is like feet and yards.