Speculation: 2013 NHL Trade Deadline Thread (CBJ deadline discussion here)

[JacketsDavid]

I agree JD would have more say than anyone in a trade. Jarmo has the GM role but let's keep in mind to get any trade done he has to get approval from his boss - JD.

I have it on pretty good authority that JJ is not being shopped to Pittsburgh (you know a buddy's, neighbor, etc kinda story, but it's from inside so I personally believe it), but he did make it sound like we were looking at someone. Like others I have no idea. I'm not sure if we have any untouchables, so if Pittsburgh wanted to drastically overpay I'm sure JD would listen.

Honestly I don't follow Pittsburgh enough anymore to know what they need. However the play of some of our young d-men definetely makes someone expendable. Also we have a glut of 3rd line forwards.

 

[CBJSprague24]

At this point, I'd hope that any selling would be limited to guys who won't be brought back. It seems, at this point anyway, that some of the bricks JD wants to build this team with are already in place.

 

[Xoggz22]

Should the CBJ sweep Nashville next week and climb into serious playoff contention, will Jarmo trade for a goal scorer? (not a rental, a long term contributor)

Doubtful. This team is clearly playling very well but if I'm the CBJ, I don't mortgage any of the future for the now. We are getting unusual play from our goaltender right now. That will change based on the fact this level is simply not sustainable.

I agree with need more scoring but any addition to that before the deadline will cost a lot of assets. Stay the course, build through the draft but realize we are highly unlikely to get a top 5 pick at this rate (which, to me, sucks in a way given the anticipated talent of top ende of this draft).

Continue to root for the Rags to lose and we may still have a chance at a true lottery pick.

 

[Jackets16]

I think we're either selling, or staying pat. No sense in breaking up the chemistry this team has built ...not to mention we would just have to trade away future assets.

I agree. I want us to do nothing or be sellers. Don't trade any of the future to try to win this year. That just wouldn't be smart to me.

 

[Xoggz22]

I agree with what most have said. Stand pat or sell. My hope is that if we don't make the playoffs we're in it until the end, as is everyone else so that should we miss we drop way back in the standings but have a good season for the fans until the end....

Oh yeah, and that the Rangers continue to play lifeless hockey and fade to black

 

[Robert]

If the CBJ can get up to two or three games above .500 before the deadline they should make a trade to bolster the scoring.. Being in playoff position does not come around that often, even though it's likely the Jackets will make the playoffs next season there are no guarantees... (key injuries can ruin a season quickly)

That said, if the Jackets are below .500 at the deadline I'd sit pat....

 

[Dr. Fire]

If the CBJ can get up to two or three games above .500 before the deadline they should make a trade to bolster the scoring.. Being in playoff position does not come around that often, even though it's likely the Jackets will make the playoffs next season there are no guarantees... (key injuries can ruin a season quickly)

That said, if the Jackets are below .500 at the deadline I'd sit pat....

I tend to lean this way as well. If we have a realistic chance at the play-offs why not unload some redundant pieces for a bonafide scorer. Do you not think that there will be teams out of the play-off hunt looking to unload some salary, or looking for role players or picks?

Good grief, we have a bunch of picks in the upcoming draft, how many more do we need. At some point we need to grab a scorer or two, why not at the deadline?

 

[2minpenalty]

I tend to lean this way as well. If we have a realistic chance at the play-offs why not unload some redundant pieces for a bonafide scorer. Do you not think that there will be teams out of the play-off hunt looking to unload some salary, or looking for role players or picks?

Good grief, we have a bunch of picks in the upcoming draft, how many more do we need. At some point we need to grab a scorer or two, why not at the deadline?

We need scoring like others have said. Outside of Boone Jenner, there is no one in the system that is a descent prospect. We have enough D, let's use the picks to restock the cupboard with forwards who can score and make a difference. When you look at the Falcons, they are now showing signs that they have no one down there outside of Draz that can score.

 

[major major]

Good grief, we have a bunch of picks in the upcoming draft, how many more do we need. At some point we need to grab a scorer or two, why not at the deadline?

The prices for top scorers at the deadline are way higher. You can get them cheaper in the summer.

 

[Dr. Fire]

The prices for top scorers at the deadline are way higher. You can get them cheaper in the summer.

Yea, you are right, screw the play-offs this season.

Look I am realistic here. I know we have a daunting task here with 12 of 17 games on the road to finish the season. Everyone knows we are not good on the road.

But, if somehow at the deadline we are in the mix, you actually want JD to basically just not even try? I mean what message does that send to the players and fans?

"Hey, we can't try and make the play-offs this season because we need to wait and build a team to make the play-offs later"

 

[Robert]

Yea, you are right, screw the play-offs this season.

Look I am realistic here. I know we have a daunting task here with 12 of 17 games on the road to finish the season. Everyone knows we are not good on the road.

But, if somehow at the deadline we are in the mix, you actually want JD to basically just not even try? I mean what message does that send to the players and fans?

"Hey, we can't try and make the play-offs this season because we need to wait and build a team to make the play-offs later"

This is how I feel as well.... when in position to shoot take the shot, 100% of the shots never taken don't score.. ... If not in position then drop back and wait for the next opportunity.

 

[EspenK]

Put me down for a do nothing if in or close at the deadline; be a seller if outside and the offer is really good. As much as this team is a pleasant surprise, I don't see them as a legitimate playoff team and another 4-0 exit does no good. If we can somehow add some offense through the draft, trades and free agency and next year we're close, that will be a different story. Typically at the deadline teams add role players, which at last check, i think we have enough of.

 

[major major]

Yea, you are right, screw the play-offs this season.

Look I am realistic here. I know we have a daunting task here with 12 of 17 games on the road to finish the season. Everyone knows we are not good on the road.

But, if somehow at the deadline we are in the mix, you actually want JD to basically just not even try? I mean what message does that send to the players and fans?

"Hey, we can't try and make the play-offs this season because we need to wait and build a team to make the play-offs later"

Yes, I said that, screw the playoffs this season. I also said that JD shouldn't try to improve the team the rest of the year.

I'm all for getting a scorer, and I am more optimistic than most that we could win some playoff games if not rounds. Yes, look for a deal in the next few weeks, but just know that the price for a top line scorer in the next few weeks is going to be very high.

 

[Xoggz22]

Yea, you are right, screw the play-offs this season.

Look I am realistic here. I know we have a daunting task here with 12 of 17 games on the road to finish the season. Everyone knows we are not good on the road.

But, if somehow at the deadline we are in the mix, you actually want JD to basically just not even try? I mean what message does that send to the players and fans?

"Hey, we can't try and make the play-offs this season because we need to wait and build a team to make the play-offs later"

I think most of us are saying don't mortgage the long term for a short term satisfaction. It doesn't mean you don't try and make a deal but i don't want to bring on dead end contracts at the price we know they cost at the deadline. It wouldn't be right for this team.

If you can make a deal to get a contributor for long term and help now then go for it but this is the most expensive time of year. We are likely to have limited success and if that means cutting into the long term success with what we appear to be trying to build then I'm not interested.

 

[JACKETfan]

Wiz for someone who can score.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Wiz for someone who can score.

So, Wis?

 

[Robert]

Wiz for someone who can score.

I like Wiz, the only problem is that I rarely see him play.....

 

[cbjfaninmo]

If you can make a deal to get a contributor for long term and help now then go for it but this is the most expensive time of year. We are likely to have limited success and if that means cutting into the long term success with what we appear to be trying to build then I'm not interested.

This is my opinion too. I don't think JD will mortgage any of the future for a short term fix. It will be too expensive. Draft Jarmo Draft!!

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

You don't have to mortgage the long term to add a piece or two at the deadline. It is possible to make trades that don't include prospects or picks. When we traded Klesla for Upshall, we got out of a long term deal for a guy who could help the team now who we wouldn't be tied to long term.

Chances are, as AP as said, JD and his Finnish henchman have evaluated the team, and now know who they view as long term "bricks" and who they don't. We also know that no one is safe, this regime isn't tied to certain players, and they may want to move long term-contracts they don't want to be tied to for future flexibility.

RJ, Jack, Brassard, Tyutin - A contending team who spends to the cap could have interest in these types of guys. We'd have to obviously take money back, but we could take a guy back who could still help now but who has a shorter contract along with a pick or prospect.

Let's say the Flyers want Umberger or Tyutin. We could take back a contract like Meszaros to make the money work if they threw in a prospect, young player, or pick the regime thought would help the building process. Wouldn't be "mortgaging the future" but would still be a type of trade that works for the now and adds for the later.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

You don't have to mortgage the long term to add a piece or two at the deadline. It is possible to make trades that don't include prospects or picks. When we traded Klesla for Upshall, we got out of a long term deal for a guy who could help the team now who we wouldn't be tied to long term.

Chances are, as AP as said, JD and his Finnish henchman have evaluated the team, and now know who they view as long term "bricks" and who they don't. We also know that no one is safe, this regime isn't tied to certain players, and they may want to move long term-contracts they don't want to be tied to for future flexibility.

RJ, Jack, Brassard, Tyutin - A contending team who spends to the cap could have interest in these types of guys. We'd have to obviously take money back, but we could take a guy back who could still help now but who has a shorter contract along with a pick or prospect.

Let's say the Flyers want Umberger or Tyutin. We could take back a contract like Meszaros to make the money work if they threw in a prospect, young player, or pick the regime thought would help the building process. Wouldn't be "mortgaging the future" but would still be a type of trade that works for the now and adds for the later.

Hopefully JD and JK see Jack as a brick. He's a workhorse.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Dallas just took on the long term contract of Erik Cole for a UFA to be in Michael Ryder, saying they'd rather have a locked up veteran that can help them going forward than a guy they probably wouldn't resign.

If, for example, we could trade them Umberger for Derek Roy - wouldn't that be an example that makes us better for this year's stretch run while also freeing up flexibility for JD and Jarmo going forward?

Not saying that move would be made, but I think that type of deal is a possibility.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Hopefully JD and JK see Jack as a brick. He's a workhorse.

Yes. As I have said I love Jack and don't understand why he isn't wearing a C and don't think he should go anywhere.

That said, when it comes to guys who could fetch value in a trade, a guy like Jack certainly does as opposed to guys like Aucoin who would fetch a condition 7th Freddy Modin stye

 

[blahblah]

Yes. As I have said I love Jack and don't understand why he isn't wearing a C and don't think he should go anywhere.

That said, when it comes to guys who could fetch value in a trade, a guy like Jack certainly does as opposed to guys like Aucoin who would fetch a condition 7th Freddy Modin stye

You underestimate what Aucoin would bring. He'll fetch more than a 7th, if we were to trade him.

 

[Dr. Fire]

I think most of us are saying don't mortgage the long term for a short term satisfaction. It doesn't mean you don't try and make a deal but i don't want to bring on dead end contracts at the price we know they cost at the deadline. It wouldn't be right for this team.

If you can make a deal to get a contributor for long term and help now then go for it but this is the most expensive time of year. We are likely to have limited success and if that means cutting into the long term success with what we appear to be trying to build then I'm not interested.

For everyone bashing me, that is exactly what I pointed out. TRY and make a deal. If nothing pans out, at least you can tell the fans and players that you tried.

Well, no one is bashing me really, but my point was he should try.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

You underestimate what Aucoin would bring. He'll fetch more than a 7th, if we were to trade him.

No, he won't.