Speculation: 2013 NHL Trade Deadline Thread (CBJ deadline discussion here)

[Samkow]

Our best player is a guy who won't be playing in the NHL when our rebuild is complete.

We are sellers.

I don't think anybody really believes we aren't. Just an excited fanbase speculating. They'll come back down to earth when the team does.

Although I'm sure everybody will inevitably be disappointed when the only deadline move is Mark Letestu to the Rangers for a 4th round pick.

 

[Xoggz22]

When I look at our draft situation, we are most likely to lose our 3rd to the Rangers - no way I see them making the cup finals. That's a likely pick in the 61-65 range where supposedly this draft still offers value.

The trade deadline should provide us with another 2nd, hopefully a 3rd and possibly another pick later in the draft or even next year. I think we need to continue to think about building the pipeline. Adding picks in that area woudl provide some boom or bust options that may be worth taking a chance on.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

For anyone to take it for what it's worth, Eklund has an e2 for Vinny Prospal on his trade deadline watch list. He is the only CBJ mentioned.

 

[Kev22]

For anyone to take it for what it's worth, Eklund has an e2 for Vinny Prospal on his trade deadline watch list. He is the only CBJ mentioned.

I think most of what the Jackets have to offer are depth players. There is no bona fide star we're looking to trade like last season. I'd like to see Prospal and Letestu stay, but if it is in the best interest of the future to trade them for assets, count me in. I think that if GMJK can rid the club of Umberger and Brassard's contracts, he'll make the move(s). It will be an interesting 3 weeks.

 

[JacketsFanWest]

In the event the CBJ is 8/9, I would think they hold the roster, not add.

There's potentially few sellers and a lot of buyers. The Jackets needs an offensive star, but no one's going to be trading those at the deadline.

But where they could add is going after top unsigned college free-agents. Columbus will be more attractive to a free-agent if they aren't in the basement, look like they could be competitive sooner rather than later, and could offer immediate NHL playing time. That's where Jarmo could really make something happen - add a player who's NHL ready from college without giving up assets.

 

[Cash for Nash]

I think most of what the Jackets have to offer are depth players. There is no bona fide star we're looking to trade like last season. I'd like to see Prospal and Letestu stay, but if it is in the best interest of the future to trade them for assets, count me in. I think that if GMJK can rid the club of Umberger and Brassard's contracts, he'll make the move(s). It will be an interesting 3 weeks.

Got a feeling Brassard will be moved. He's just good enough offensively to have value to a team looking to make a push. Plus he has one more year on his contract. Maybe a 2nd and a prospect. A first would be awesome but maybe too much to ask.

If they could get two second rounders for both Prospal and Brassard I'd think they'd take it.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I don't think Brassard holds much value other than potential.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Seems like Ottawa fans are hoping their team can swing a deal centered around Ben Bishop for Brassard, is that something Columbus would be interested in seeing as Bobrovsky has seemingly been quite solid? What about something involving Stephane De Costa and a pick/prospect? Brassard to Ottawa does make some sense.

 

[EspenK]

Seems like Ottawa fans are hoping their team can swing a deal centered around Ben Bishop for Brassard, is that something Columbus would be interested in seeing as Bobrovsky has seemingly been quite solid? What about something involving Stephane De Costa and a pick/prospect? Brassard to Ottawa does make some sense.

That's an interesting concept. Lets have a discussion about that. See the Brassard thread below for an exhaustive discussion on this very topic.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I don't think Brassard holds much value other than potential.

Meaningless in the real world, but I've seen fans of three or four teams express interest in Brass. His value depends on how many teams express interest and Jarmo's ability (presuming he's willing/intends to trade DB) to play them against one another.

 

[Jackets16]

I'd say we're sellers regardless of our standing. Management has been up front with everyone that this is a full organizational rebuild and that it will take time. I think if we are in the hunt for the playoffs we may make trades for players we think will be part of the team going forward, but there is no way we trade picks or young players for a chance to win now.

I agree 100%.

 

[Viqsi]

Seems like Ottawa fans are hoping their team can swing a deal centered around Ben Bishop for Brassard, is that something Columbus would be interested in seeing as Bobrovsky has seemingly been quite solid? What about something involving Stephane De Costa and a pick/prospect? Brassard to Ottawa does make some sense.

Could someone over there please explain to said fans that our opinion of Bishop-for-Brassard as a concept has gone well past "disdain" and into outright hostility?

Prospect forwards are certainly of interest. Da Costa, though, would probably not be enough unless that's a signifcantly high pick.

 

[candyman82]

Could someone over there please explain to said fans that our opinion of Bishop-for-Brassard as a concept has gone well past "disdain" and into outright hostility?

Prospect forwards are certainly of interest. Da Costa, though, would probably not be enough unless that's a signifcantly high pick.

That is still better than what I've been seeing on the Oilers boards. Anisimov for Dubnyk? Umberger for a fourth? Dubinsky for a 2nd?

It makes me want to punch kittens.

 

[Roadman]

That is still better than what I've been seeing on the Oilers boards. Anisimov for Dubnyk? Umberger for a fourth? Dubinsky for a 2nd?

It makes me want to punch kittens.

Source, just consider the source.

 

[JacketsDavid]

Guys forget the idea of being buyers. Let me break it down for you.

We have 20 points in 24 games. Even if we played great hockey (and I used the 'Nucks as a point of reference - they average 1.22 points/game). So let's say suddently for the last 24 games we played at that pace - we would end up with 49 points in 48 games.

So we would need the Blues (23 games, 26 points), Coyotes (24 games, 25 points), Preds (24 g, 25 pt) and Wild (23 g, 24 pt) to all play below .500 hockey AND hope that the Flames (22 g, 22 pt), Avs (23 g, 22p) and Oilers (24 g, 21 pt) didn't play well either. Throw in the fact that all of these teams play against each other and it's virtually no chance.

Good news (as someone just mentioned) is that few sellers and lots of buyers means the return on our trades could be real good.
It's up to JD and Jarmo and company to decide who fits long term and who doesn't. maybe with some of the goaltender injuries (lie Carolina) we could get a 4th round pick for Mason? It always amazes me how the price of 3rd line grinding forwards and stay at home d-men are at their highest at the deadline (and we all know we have plenty of 3rd line grinding forwards at least).
Who knows one of the best trades we ever made was season 1 getting Whitney because he was injured. If someone like that is available who could help us out in future years, then by all means go for it, but we're not going to be adding peices to make a futile run at the playoffs this year.

 

[cbjgirl]

I don't think anyone here thinks we are buyers. The question is who gets dumped. Stay the course, if we make the playoffs - yea, if not, that is OK too. This season is not the season to go for it (sell the farm, so to speak) to win the cup. I think management is looking longer term.

 

[JacketsFanWest]

Finnish draft pick of the Blues wants to come play in the NHL? Hmm...? Wonder what it would take for Jarmo to get him from the Blues?

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=8042

Lehtera to NHL?

Sources close to KHL standout Jori Lehtera tell me he has “strong interest†in playing in the NHL next season. The former 3rd round draft pick of the St. Louis Blues was among the leading scorers in the KHL this year.

Lehtera, a native of Finland, is unlikely to come over without some assurance he’ll make the NHL club. He makes good money in the KHL and has little interest in playing in the AHL. The Blues feel he’s in a good spot and wouldn’t pressure him to come over to play in the minors.

The 25 year old has another year left on his KHL contract with Novosibirsk but can opt out of his deal after April 30th.

The Blues hold on to Lehtera’s rights until he turns 27.

http://www.truehockey.com/articles/Red-Wings-Have-Inside-Track-on-Dekeyser-Lehtera-to-NHL

 

[Stretch Factor]

Finnish draft pick of the Blues wants to come play in the NHL? Hmm...? Wonder what it would take for Jarmo to get him from the Blues?

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=8042

I assume The Finn likes him too, since he drafted him in STL.

 

[blahblah]

I don't think anyone here thinks we are buyers. The question is who gets dumped. Stay the course, if we make the playoffs - yea, if not, that is OK too. This season is not the season to go for it (sell the farm, so to speak) to win the cup. I think management is looking longer term.

If the purchase fits in with the long term plans, I don't see why we wouldn't proceed. No, I don't see a typical dead line deal. However, there was a deal of Goligoski for Neal a couple of years ago. I could see something like that going down. Maybe a vet for a 5th round pick or something along those lines. That seems less likely because of the depth we have at forward now. Maybe a trade from a bottom dweller for an upcoming RFA.

You have to plan for the future, you also want to show the locker room you are behind them as well. The big thing is you don't want to sell if the players get themselves in the hunt. A lot of our fans would want them to, but that isn't likely how the front office would view it.

 

[KeithBWhittington]

You know who's gotten lost in the mix here? And not just because he's been out with injury, is John Moore. Given by what we've seen from Erixon and Golo and Prout playing decently, I'd wonder if there's any inkling to see if Moore still has decent value via trade.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Finnish draft pick of the Blues wants to come play in the NHL? Hmm...? Wonder what it would take for Jarmo to get him from the Blues?

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=8042

Surely I'm not the only one who glanced at this blurb and saw "Tero Lehtera", right?

 

[Jaxs]

You know who's gotten lost in the mix here? And not just because he's been out with injury, is John Moore. Given by what we've seen from Erixon and Golo and Prout playing decently, I'd wonder if there's any inkling to see if Moore still has decent value via trade.

I may be in the minority here, but I think Moore will develop into a top pairing defenseman. Moore's injury was ill timed in the sense that he would have had big minutes to continue to develop with the Wiz injury and others with missed time. Erixon has taken that ball and ran with it.

If it came to getting a good offer for Moore, it would be considered. Prout plays more of a shutdown style than Moore or Golo. Moore would be worth more than Golo. I still think it is too early to deal Moore. Next season there may be necessity to thin with so many of our dmen getting further from their ELCs. It will get a little crowded next year, assuming Murray shows well at training camp.

 

[pete goegan]

I may be in the minority here, but I think Moore will develop into a top pairing defenseman. Moore's injury was ill timed in the sense that he would have had big minutes to continue to develop with the Wiz injury and others with missed time. Erixon has taken that ball and ran with it.

If it came to getting a good offer for Moore, it would be considered. Prout plays more of a shutdown style than Moore or Golo. Moore would be worth more than Golo. I still think it is too early to deal Moore. Next season there may be necessity to thin with so many of our dmen getting further from their ELCs. It will get a little crowded next year, assuming Murray shows well at training camp.

I agree. When Moore and Wiz return, I'd like to see them step in as the third pair, replacing Acoin and Prout. I like what Prout has shown, but he's not capable of the same level of play as Moore.

 

[Roadman]

We have had a number of up and comers that seemed to have burst upon the scene, provide some much hoped for relief and promise, only to fade. Clitsome anyone?

While I have been an advocate of turning our seeming surplus of defensive depth into some offensive promise, that thought does need to be tempered with the reality of the situation. 11 different defense men have played for the CBJ this season, and most have played well but the sample size is still a little small for most. There is still time for most before the ELC/ waiver window closes. The longer the look the more valid the analysis.

There is no doubt in my mind that some of the defensive corps as it now stands will be dealt, Who and when is an entirely different proposition.

Patience is a virtue.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

You know who's gotten lost in the mix here? And not just because he's been out with injury, is John Moore. Given by what we've seen from Erixon and Golo and Prout playing decently, I'd wonder if there's any inkling to see if Moore still has decent value via trade.

Have wondered the same, actually despite the fact that I also see Moore as Murray's future partner on the top pair.