Speculation: 2013 NHL Trade Deadline Thread (CBJ deadline discussion here)

[NotWendell]

Sabres fan here....I'm curious for your thoughts on this proposal...Thomas Vanek for two of your first round picks.

I doubt this happens, and to be honest Regier would likely want more...but is Columbus in the market for a sniper of Vanek's quality?

Like the player quite a bit. Don't like the idea he's UFA only after one more season. His salary is not an issue for Columbus, we have to pay SOMEBODY. I think you'll find most here would rather keep the picks.

 

[alphafox]

Sabres fan here....I'm curious for your thoughts on this proposal...Thomas Vanek for two of your first round picks.

I doubt this happens, and to be honest Regier would likely want more...but is Columbus in the market for a sniper of Vanek's quality?

Yes...but not at that price. Columbus needs multiple first round picks for the future of the organization Vanek is a good player, but that move for that price is too short sighted

 

[sabresandcanucks]

Yes...but not at that price. Columbus needs multiple first round picks for the future of the organization Vanek is a good player, but that move for that price is too short sighted

I hear you...If you could lock Vanek up long term that would justify the price...but the risk is there that he will walk.

If the jackets had a sniper to help chip in some offense to compliment their defensive structure I could see them causing some havoc in the playoffs.

 

[major major]

I could see us packaging a first and somebody like Nikitin for a scoring help now and in the future. Maybe somebody like Pominville or possibly Stastny (with the first being conditional on an extension). Alternatively there are some guys I could see like Nino in NYI going for the LA 1st and possibly savard.

I still think we're sellers for the most part, and JD/JK's comments seem to have them looking to exploit the high prices at the deadline without blowing up the team's chances at the playoffs. I see a couple of pieces moved for draft assets/prospects and one trade for a player that makes us better up front now and going forward.

For a hypothetical example... Trade LA's 1st and Nikitin for Paul Stastny and a 2nd. That gives us centers of Johan, AA, Dubi, Brass, Stastny. We trade Brass for a 1st round and prospects. Trade Aucoin for a 3rd.

That would give us a projected line-up of

Calvert-AA-Atkinson
Foligno-Johan-Umby
Dubi-Stastny-Prospal
Boll-DMac-Letestu

JMFJ-Wiz
Tyutin-Moore
Erixon-Prout

Bob
Mason

And we have Our first, NYR first, First from the Brass trade (which could very well end up better than LA's), our second, colorado's second, and the third for Aucoin.

I'm with you on everything, except acquiring Stastny. He's got one more year at $6.6 million and then he's a UFA. What is Stastny's overall game like? His points-per-60 minutes is actual worse than Brassard this year.

It might be better just to leave out the Stastny deal and let Duby or Letestu take the 3rd line center spot. Then we'd still have Nikitin, plus 4 first rounders this year, and some additional prospects and late-round picks.

 

[major major]

I hear you...If you could lock Vanek up long term that would justify the price...but the risk is there that he will walk.

If the jackets had a sniper to help chip in some offense to compliment their defensive structure I could see them causing some havoc in the playoffs.

I'd think about it if it was a sign and trade. But trading draft picks for 29 year olds is not really where this organization is at.

 

[punk_o_holic]

I'd think about it if it was a sign and trade. But trading draft picks for 29 year olds is not really where this organization is at.

I think Vanek would have to be a UFA this Summer for Buffalo to beable to sign him to a new deal. But Vanek has one more year left so they won't beable to do it until next season. But with the new CBA I could be wrong.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Sabres fan here....I'm curious for your thoughts on this proposal...Thomas Vanek for two of your first round picks.

I doubt this happens, and to be honest Regier would likely want more...but is Columbus in the market for a sniper of Vanek's quality?

Seems fair price, but we're not selling future assets for the present. Firsts aren't going anywhere

 

[XLJ]

If Columbus is going to trade one or two of their 1st rd picks, the player that would make more sense is Bobby Ryan not Vanek. Ryan is younger and can grow with the team. Obviously that would be a draft day deal.

 

[Finnpin]

Jarmo might use one 1st rounder (his own words when he got the GM position) to get a player to help the team immediately...but that could happen also in the summer. I'm pretty sure they will hold all 3 1st rounders to the draft day. You never know what happens on that day.

If something happens on deadline day, probably just something minor.

 

[EspenK]

I don't think that.

Who other than Bobrovsky is playing over their heads?

No one. The thing that is making this team successful imo is its team defense. Throw in Bob and a bit of luck and that is why they have produced the way they have. I still think that is a very tough way to make a living in the NHL long term but for now it is what is winning for the Jackets.

 

[pete goegan]

Here's the latest from Arace, incluing quotes from JD and JM:

http://mobile.bluejacketsxtra.com/w...ets+Headlines&headtitle=Bluejackets+Headlines

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Here's the latest from Arace, incluing quotes from JD and JM:

http://mobile.bluejacketsxtra.com/w...ets+Headlines&headtitle=Bluejackets+Headlines

Thanks, pete. Good read and more confirmation that just about anything is possible.

FWIW - non-mobile version link:
http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com...04/01/jackets-in-good-spot-to-call-shots.html

 

[Roadman]

Here's the latest from Arace, incluing quotes from JD and JM:

http://mobile.bluejacketsxtra.com/w...ets+Headlines&headtitle=Bluejackets+Headlines

Enjoy the comment at the end, "Michael Arace is a sports reporter for The Dispatch."

Guess nobody else can tell who are the reporters and who are the columnists.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

From the Arace article above

Davidson pointed out that the salary cap is about to drop from $70 million to $64.3 million, and there will be teams that need to cut salaries this summer. That will make for a more robust trade market later rather than sooner.

"And don't forget," Kekalainen said, "we have three first-round picks. If one of them helps us now, and long-term, we would think about (trading a pick)."

 

[Jackets16]

As others have said, I'm on-board with the following strategy for deadline.

1) JD and JK decide who really should be here going forward and who is expendable
2) If you get a great over-payment offer on someone expendable, send them out
3) If you don't, let this roster roll for the season and try to make the changes in the summer
4) Keep our draft picks off the table in any deal

I'm perfectly fine if nothing happens at the deadline and we just roll the dice on this team for this season and take our 3 first round draft picks to the bank.

I agree with you. There are a few players I would like to see traded, but I am okay with keeping them. I just don't want to see us trading any picks/prospects for help now.

 

[Jackets16]

I could see us packaging a first and somebody like Nikitin for a scoring help now and in the future. Maybe somebody like Pominville or possibly Stastny (with the first being conditional on an extension). Alternatively there are some guys I could see like Nino in NYI going for the LA 1st and possibly savard.

I still think we're sellers for the most part, and JD/JK's comments seem to have them looking to exploit the high prices at the deadline without blowing up the team's chances at the playoffs. I see a couple of pieces moved for draft assets/prospects and one trade for a player that makes us better up front now and going forward.

For a hypothetical example... Trade LA's 1st and Nikitin for Paul Stastny and a 2nd. That gives us centers of Johan, AA, Dubi, Brass, Stastny. We trade Brass for a 1st round and prospects. Trade Aucoin for a 3rd.

That would give us a projected line-up of

Calvert-AA-Atkinson
Foligno-Johan-Umby
Dubi-Stastny-Prospal
Boll-DMac-Letestu

JMFJ-Wiz
Tyutin-Moore
Erixon-Prout

Bob
Mason

And we have Our first, NYR first, First from the Brass trade (which could very well end up better than LA's), our second, colorado's second, and the third for Aucoin.

I would be okay with that. I would rather have 4 firsts than Statsny, but that is just me.

 

[Jackets16]

Sabres fan here....I'm curious for your thoughts on this proposal...Thomas Vanek for two of your first round picks.

I doubt this happens, and to be honest Regier would likely want more...but is Columbus in the market for a sniper of Vanek's quality?

We could use a player like Vanek, but I have no interest in trading for him, because I would rather keep our draft picks and prospects.

 

[DJA]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 2m
CBJ will be a buyer. Columbus would be willing to part with 1 of their 3 first rnd draft picks for a scoring forward. #tradecentre

 

[CapnCornelius]

If that's the best offer we get for Brassard, I'd do it. I'm not excited about Beleskey, but Smith-Pelley could easily end up better than Dorsett. Have folks soured on him though? Smith-Pelley's scouting reports look good.

I'm sure some (fans) have soured on Smith-Pelley, but that is probably because he overperformed last year and this year he's back in the AHL where he probably should be at this point in his development. Ultimately, I still think he has solid potential. Now, I'd rather have Peter Holland, but I don't think the Ducks would consider that for a minute.

Games in hand also doesn't guarantee 2 points. St. Louis has done nothing over the past couple of weeks to show me that they're capable of doing anything with those 3 games. If anything, the pressure is on those teams behind us to do something with these extra games.

Blues schedule is a mixed bag. 3 games against Chicago left in addition to games against Detroit and Minnesota. Not to mention 2 games against Columbus. But the schedule gets pretty lame at the end with games against Calgary and Colorado (twice). At this point Jackets have to build on their lead such that once the Blues get to those games against Calgary and Colorado they are already out of the picture.

The noose is tightening on Hitchcock (again).

I tweeted yesterday that it is ironic that the Jackets seem to be on the edge of killing the man's career again. All the more ironic given that Richards is doing it in Hitchcock fashion.

so what could we realistically get using LA's 1st (not that I want to, but if it finds us a scorer...we should think about it)

Well, look at the sorts of rumors you hear for the Pens, Bruins, Hawks, etc. first round pick. You can certainly get a veteran rental player. But I suspect Jarmo would only want to do that if he also thought he could re-sign the player. So, making it a conditional first round pick (either together with a lower level asset or in place of a later round pick) might be a more attractive option for the Jackets. I think there are players under contract that could be had, but most of the names I've seen are guys with only one year left. Interesting exception has been Curtis Glencross whose name seems to be popping up.

I still think there is an interesting possibility or possibilities with Detroit. Consider that Wiz is a Michigan native and was between Columbus and Detroit when he signed with us. The Wings are looking for defensive help--don't believe for a second they are putting their fate in the hands of a college kid. The Jackets and Wings won't share a division next year. Valterri Filpulla has not yet re-signed and played during the lockout for...Jokerit where his brother also plays. At points the Wings have also had interest in Steve Mason and they have not re-signed Jimmy Howard at this point. A deal for Filpulla where he immediately gets signed to an extension could be very attractive and gives the Jackets a leg up on their off-season.

Oh, I need to give the team some bulletin board material since my last post worked so well. So, let's go with this: It's nice that we are sitting in 8th place, but this team seems to struggle with winning games in regulation. Let's face it, overtime or shootout wins against the Blues and Preds aren't going to cut it. Feel free to prove me wrong guys. In the meantime, Jarmo, if you're trading a first round pick, make it the Kings.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 2m
CBJ will be a buyer. Columbus would be willing to part with 1 of their 3 first rnd draft picks for a scoring forward. #tradecentre

Of course, this could just be referencing Jarmo's quote in the Arace piece.

Not trying to be a wet blanket, because I believe the "would be willing..." part is true, but still.

 

[pete goegan]

I still think there is an interesting possibility or possibilities with Detroit. Consider that Wiz is a Michigan native and was between Columbus and Detroit when he signed with us. The Wings are looking for defensive help--don't believe for a second they are putting their fate in the hands of a college kid. The Jackets and Wings won't share a division next year. Valterri Filpulla has not yet re-signed and played during the lockout for...Jokerit where his brother also plays. At points the Wings have also had interest in Steve Mason and they have not re-signed Jimmy Howard at this point. A deal for Filpulla where he immediately gets signed to an extension could be very attractive and gives the Jackets a leg up on their off-season.

Interesting, indeed.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I still think there is an interesting possibility or possibilities with Detroit. Consider that Wiz is a Michigan native and was between Columbus and Detroit when he signed with us. The Wings are looking for defensive help--don't believe for a second they are putting their fate in the hands of a college kid. The Jackets and Wings won't share a division next year. Valterri Filpulla has not yet re-signed and played during the lockout for...Jokerit where his brother also plays. At points the Wings have also had interest in Steve Mason and they have not re-signed Jimmy Howard at this point. A deal for Filpulla where he immediately gets signed to an extension could be very attractive and gives the Jackets a leg up on their off-season.

That is "make up plausible but totally fabricated connections" such as to be worthy of a Canadian newspaper writer's blog. Well done!

 

[ernmorris]

How about Drew Stafford? 2 years left on his contract and he potted 31 goals last year.

@TheFourthPeriod: A quick look at our Top 25 Available list heading down the homestretch of trade deadline season http://t.co/UTRa3zlVVx

Umberger on the list as well.

 

[CapnCornelius]

That is "make up plausible but totally fabricated connections" such as to be worthy of a Canadian newspaper writer's blog. Well done!

I'm not sure what part is "fabricated."

If there is one thing that I've also learned from watching hockey for all these years it is that GM's have a tendency to go after guys they know. I suppose it is natural--there is no one you've scouted better than a guy who played for you once before. It's why Burke was drawn to Bertuzzi and Lupul like a moth to a flame. It's why Scott Howson was constantly acquiring guys he knew from Edmonton. I suspect over the next few years we're going to see examples of it with JD and JK.

 

[Fro]

A thought came thru at lunch, with the cap coming down, what could we fetch with a package of Moore, Brass, and LA's 1st???