Detroit Redwings Downfall

[logan5]

Go spend an hour researching, do a redraft every season from 2019-2024 and select any player that Yzerman didn't; no Seider, no Raymond, no Edvinsson and tell me how you did.

I am giving you the pleasure of hindsight 20/20 and I'll bet the farm you still come up short.

So you are saying that with all those high draft picks, this is the result you should expect from an organization? The Canucks had far less draft picks, and have managed to build a decent team in about the same time frame that the Red Wings have had, and that is with a very average GM during those draft years, unless you think Benning was a drafting genius.

Management has failed in Detroit, and very badly.

 

[Boud]

Petry and Chiarot 2nd pair is not good enough. Holl isn’t very good. The defence overall is just not good enough. They don’t take many shots on goal, partly because their D struggles to get the puck out to the forwards. Not something you can easily fix at this stage in the season. They needed a good Dman in the offseason. Walman move was a head-scratcher. Seider could be playing better.

There’s depth up front but not enough guys who actually make plays and create scoring chances. Tarasenko and Kane are getting old. They’re one of the lowest scoring teams in the league at 5 on 5. Outside of the top line there’s no offensive to speak of. Compher and Copp don’t look like 5M $ players.

The PP is on fire but they just can’t score at 5 on 5 and they don’t create enough chances. The PK is just horrendous.

Goaltending has been really good and likely the only reason they’re still close to .500 … Not sure I had Cam Talbot putting up those numbers on my bingo card but he’s been keeping them in games.

Can’t imagine they make the playoffs this year. There’s just a lot missing on the roster. There’s holes on D and not enough on forward. The goalies are unlikely to sustain this level of play. I feel like they have regressed from last season. This is a one line team.

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Lol lost to the Sharks.

Gotta think the coach will be fired any hour now

"We ask that you bear with us."

 

[Nogatco Rd]

A downfall with year over year improvement, simple methods and numbers are confusing people.. interesting.

They’re in last place in the East. Are you saying you think they’ll improve on last year’s finish?

 

[BluesyShoes]

They are still building. They have a lot of good pieces, have some good veterans for the young players to learn from. As pointed out, as long as they keep improving they will climb the mountain eventually. Nate Danielson looks like a gem, ASP looks like a weapon. Their homegrown D core is still super young and are still years away from their prime. Cossa is putting up good numbers in the minors this year. They've done a fantastic job of collecting all the pieces, and they aren't all ready yet. Still probably have at least 1 more top 10 pick in the draft to add some scoring. I'm not a Detroit fan but I'm really excited about the team they are building, and Danielson is wildly underhyped on these boards.

 

[Peasy]

Whos firing their coach first, detroit or boston?

 

[Pavels Dog]

So you are saying that with all those high draft picks, this is the result you should expect from an organization? The Canucks had far less draft picks, and have managed to build a decent team in about the same time frame that the Red Wings have had, and that is with a very average GM during those draft years, unless you think Benning was a drafting genius.

Management has failed in Detroit, and very badly.

Canucks are on a bit of a different timeline. Doesn't excuse every bit of roster construction for the Wings, but obviously if the main goal was to be a decent team ASAP they wouldn't have done the Hronek/ASP swap for example.

The Red Wings organization did everything you are suppose to in order to rebuild fairly quickly. They have had a ton of 1st and 2nd round draft picks the last 7 drafts - 10 in the 1st round and 15 in the 2nd round. You should easily be able to build at least a strong play-off team by now with that, if not an elite team.

So why have zero NHL teams been able to do that?

10 years is a hilarious stretch of time to make your point with. Connor McDavid hasn't even been in the league 10 years. In the last 10 years Vegas went from not even existing to winning a championship

Again, that was the point. Writing off Raymond at 22, as well as every other player or prospect in their system, is being delusional about your ability to predict the future.