2013 New Jersey Devils (Team News, Player Discussion - Part X)

[Bleedred]

Zajac has a horrible shootout percentage. It's like 6 for 20 something. Clarkson might be close to 50 percent, but he only took 3 or 4 shootout attempts before this year. Very small sample size. Parise had a career percentage of like 48%. Henrique is like 1 for 6 in his career in shootouts too. And the goaltending hasn't been as good as it was last year either. Marty and Moose both I would bet are having their career worst years in the shootout. Marty barely ever gave up shootout goals 5 hole before this year.

 

[DatBoyJPP]

He won't continue playing like crap, if that is indeed what he's playing like.

This is Clarkson's game. He scores garbage goals. That has a very fluky element to it. Expect draughts.

His current 25 game draught is getting blown out of proportion due to the team's woes overall. If Kovalchuk is healthy, and Henrique/Zajac are pulling their share, way less people complain about Clarky.

He's playing like ass. He's not even putting himself in a good position. Save your stats for someone who cares.

 

[Devils731]

He's playing like ass. He's not even putting himself in a good position. Save your stats for someone who cares.

Recently, he's gotten a goal, hit a post, and got his stick on a few dangerous rebounds. His positioning has been good recently, his board play suffering is more concerning.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

As soon as a couple of those dumb shots he takes goes in, as they will start to again, I suspect people will silence themselves.

And I'm not saying Clarkson can't play better. He obviously hasn't been good the last 25 games. However there is a definite overreaction here.



If the 2011-12 Devils had this year's shootout luck, they would have finished with 94 points and been only 3 points ahead of ninth place Buffalo.

If the 2012-13 Devils had last year's shootout luck, they would be in 5th place right now, 7 points ahead of the ninth place team.

I understand the shootout does matter, but people should reflect on that fact for a second before bashing anything and everything about the performance of this team. If the shootout alone can explain that much of a difference, how can you all be so confident that this year's team sucks while last year's was much better?

But they will never go in. That why for months we've been outshootikg teams with nothing to show for it. Clarky gets 7 shots and zero chances a game and they will never go in. His garbage luckily goals come from when he's parked in front of the net, not attempting to snipe from the circle. He's not playing like he used to regardless of goal scoring, how in the world do you not think his style of play has changed?

 

[Saugus]

its over, lets do an islander and get picks, I think we have to win at least 8 games now to get in

I'm really sad to see this from Devils fans.

why the hell would horton come here? we'd have to overpay like crazy to get him, and it wouldnt be worth it

He's one high hit away from a career ending concussion too. I wouldn't risk big money on a guy whose health is that fragile.

 

[Bleedred]

We're gonna have to spend some money. That or be the lowest scoring team in the conference again. Or still in the bottom 8 in scoring even if Kovy is healthy the whole year. And I don't mean spend money by giving a dumb contract to Clarkson.

 

[Banana Sandwiches]

Sooo, I take it not being able to score isn't enough and you want to suck defensively as well?

(Not saying these players are bad prospects, but ****, a d corps made up of half rookies would be atrocious)

If that happens we'll be forfeiting the #1 pick next year.

Maybe not all 3 at once, but it's not like those three are any worse than what we have now. Only Greene, Larsson, and to a degree Fayne, are worth writing home about.

I'd love if Urbom could make the team because he's the closest NJ has to a big, physical, defenseman with a bit of a mean streak. Our defense is way too soft right now.

 

[JustinZ]

Those 2 points we threw away in back to back collapses down in Florida really are going to kill us. Don't blow those games and we have 42 points and 15 Regulation/OT wins.

 

[Bleedred]

Those 2 points we threw away in back to back collapses down in Florida really are going to kill us. Don't blow those games and we have 42 points and 15 Regulation/OT wins.

Those are the 2 losses we should be mad at. We had the game won against TB and scored FOUR ****in goals that game. Then the next night we blow it again against a Florida team with half of them made up of their San Antonio Rampage AHL team. We lost to those two corpses in the crypt in Florida, and that's what ****ed us. Then we come home, and absolutely no show the Isles just like we did in the game before against them in February.

The fact that this team doesn't show up for the Islanders the way they do for the Rangers/Pens/Flyers could be the difference in 4 less points for us, and 4 more points for them.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Those 2 points we threw away in back to back collapses down in Florida really are going to kill us. Don't blow those games and we have 42 points and 15 Regulation/OT wins.

Pretty much. All the garbage games Hedberg had hurt big time as well. The back to back loses against the Leafs and Lightning, shootout losses to the Flyers and Sabres, back to back losses to the Jets, blowout losses to Isles and Caps. God we have been atrocious

 

[NJDevs26]

Those are the 2 losses we should be mad at. We had the game won against TB and scored FOUR ****in goals that game. Then the next night we blow it again against a Florida team with half of them made up of their San Antonio Rampage AHL team. We lost to those two corpses in the crypt in Florida, and that's what ****ed us. Then we come home, and absolutely no show the Isles just like we did in the game before against them in February.

The fact that this team doesn't show up for the Islanders the way they do for the Rangers/Pens/Flyers could be the difference in 4 less points for us, and 4 more points for them.

I think those two losses were worse psychologically than in fact. It 'only' cost us two points, but it prevented us from getting a win post-Kovy which was worse. Not to mention how those games were blown.

The fact that they lost twelve games total to the Sabres, Isles, Jets, Canes, Panthers and Lightning is what will forever annoy me from this season. It's quite possible none of those teams see the postseason, maybe the Isles but if they do make it it'll be off our backs with three of those losses coming to them.

 

[guitarguyvic]

So what kind of "production" are you expecting from Clarkson, exactly, if it's not goals and assists?

I don't think Clarkson is any worse than last year. His stats are almost identical on a per game basis. The main difference is the inordinate amount of bounces he got early on, and the inordinate amount of bounces he's not getting now, as well as the fact that everyone on this board is looking for reasons to complain because they can't handle losing.[/QUOTE]

Boom goes the dynamite. It feels like people are literally making things up or seeing only what they want to see.

Clarkson is not playing any differently than he has in the past, for the most part. Maybe not quite as physical as he used to be, but otherwise he's pretty much the same Clarkson we saw last season. Just like the team, he's not getting the goals.

3rd line player not getting .5 goals per game after a hot start = player sucks and should be traded.
One tough shortened season = team sucks and team should be blown up.
There's no in between and there is no context at all.
Welcome to HF.

 

[Bleedred]

I think those two losses were worse psychologically than in fact. It 'only' cost us two points, but it prevented us from getting a win post-Kovy which was worse. Not to mention how those games were blown.

The fact that they lost twelve games total to the Sabres, Isles, Jets, Canes, Panthers and Lightning is what will forever annoy me from this season. It's quite possible none of those teams see the postseason, maybe the Isles but if they do make it it'll be off our backs with three of those losses coming to them.

Yeah those Florida losses blew. Garon was hot garbage that game, and Florida was icing half their AHL team that night. Then the Isles games yeah. Those two regulation losses to them were crap. Maybe if the Islanders become competitive our team will actually show up to play them more than two or three times a season. The Jets losses were really bad. The Jets are just downright garbage like Nona Weisbaum says. Remember when Andy Greene was burned by big 500 pound Byfuglien?

 

[NJDevs26]

Clarkson is not playing any differently than he has in the past, for the most part. Maybe not quite as physical as he used to be, but otherwise he's pretty much the same Clarkson we saw last season. Just like the team, he's not getting the goals.

It depends on what 'past' you're using. If you're referring to the Clueless Clarkson of two-three years ago that everyone wanted bought out or cut then yeah Clarkson's not playing any differently than that guy. What's dissapointed me in this stretch is he looked like he had improved over the last year plus.

I'm not just talking about the scoring, just measuring a guy's effectiveness by numbers is silly - I'm talking about the dumb*** nonsense, which he'd at least kept to a minimum. His not scoring is compounded tenfold by all the other crap he does (and that's increased the longer his scoring drought's gone)...not passing the puck, shooting from the fifth row of the stands off the boards, falling down, taking dumb penalties and flopping all over the place to not draw a call.

And yes he's not playing physical, that compounds everything even further. At some level he's got to remember what got him to the NHL. At least stop trying to play off the perimeter. That just might improve the offensive numbers, among other things.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

So what kind of "production" are you expecting from Clarkson, exactly, if it's not goals and assists?

I don't think Clarkson is any worse than last year. His stats are almost identical on a per game basis. The main difference is the inordinate amount of bounces he got early on, and the inordinate amount of bounces he's not getting now, as well as the fact that everyone on this board is looking for reasons to complain because they can't handle losing.[/QUOTE]

Boom goes the dynamite. It feels like people are literally making things up or seeing only what they want to see.

Clarkson is not playing any differently than he has in the past, for the most part. Maybe not quite as physical as he used to be, but otherwise he's pretty much the same Clarkson we saw last season. Just like the team, he's not getting the goals.

3rd line player not getting .5 goals per game after a hot start = player sucks and should be traded.
One tough shortened season = team sucks and team should be blown up.
There's no in between and there is no context at all.
Welcome to HF.

Guess what; people may sometimes have a different opinion than yours. But that doesn't make you a better person than them.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

Quoting was ****. Couldn't fix it.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Every team they are battling to get in has had bad losses.

If they want to get in they have to look forward and win their games.

 

[Zippy316]

They just need to start by winning games.

And this point, I don't care how, I just want the two points. I don't give a **** if we get outshot 100-2 and score on our only two goals I just want wins.

 

[Devils Trap]

New Jersey Devils
@NHLDevils
@LAKings glad we could give back. We are always willing to help the less fortunate. We have 3 cups tweet us when you do too.

Lol. Twitter war between the Kings and us

 

[DevilChuk*]

New Jersey Devils
@NHLDevils
@LAKings glad we could give back. We are always willing to help the less fortunate. We have 3 cups tweet us when you do too.

Lol. Twitter war between the Kings and us

Don't see that tweet, censored by Lou?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

don't kid yourself, Lou has no idea what Twitter is

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

For all the hate that Clarkson is recently getting about his play.

He still has a had twice the better season that Zajac has put to date.

He is the major disappointment of the season thus far.

 

[Bleedred]

Guess what; people may sometimes have a different opinion than yours. But that doesn't make you a better person than them.

Agreed and aren't half the posts on this board technically ''Complaining''?

For all the hate that Clarkson is recently getting about his play.

He still has a had twice the better season that Zajac has put to date.

He is the major disappointment of the season thus far.

Zajac has been a lot better in that 25 game stretch than Clarkson. Though he was never as good early in the season as Clarkson was. He's been playing a lot better as of recently though, and even had a nice points streak in there.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

For all the hate that Clarkson is recently getting about his play.

He still has a had twice the better season that Zajac has put to date.

He is the major disappointment of the season thus far.

based on what?

Zajac still wins faceoffs and plays elite defensively.

if clarkson isnt scoring goals he isnt doing anything. yes, Zajac is struggling offensively, but still.

 

[Zippy316]

New Jersey Devils
@NHLDevils
@LAKings glad we could give back. We are always willing to help the less fortunate. We have 3 cups tweet us when you do too.

Lol. Twitter war between the Kings and us

I was laughing my ass off when I read that.