2013-2014 Schedule Released (Schedule/Divisions/Realignment Discussion)

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So even if we get 4 playoff qualifiers from each division... they might cross them over anyway. :facepalm:

You know what... I really, really want the above scenario to happen. I want the Penguins 1st and the Flyers 4th, and the Flyers cross over and play in the other division's playoffs anyway. They'll switch the rules the second the Cup is won.

You can't have it both ways. They added the wild cards so teams wouldn't get screwed by getting beaten out for a playoff spot unfairly. And you can't make the best division winner not play the lowest qualifying seed. This is the compromise.
 
You can't have it both ways. They added the wild cards so teams wouldn't get screwed by getting beaten out for a playoff spot unfairly. And you can't make the best division winner not play the lowest qualifying seed. This is the compromise.

So they play the 7th team instead of the 8th. Big deal! The Rangers could have the 3rd best record. The Isles could have the 4th. Do the Rangers get to play 6 and do the Isles get to stay at home and play 5? No! The point was to keep the playoffs in-division and build rivalries and Bettman & Co. **** that up, too! WHATEVER! I'm done. Get that moron away from my league.
 
So they play the 7th team instead of the 8th. Big deal! The Rangers could have the 3rd best record. The Isles could have the 4th. Do the Rangers get to play 6 and do the Isles get to stay at home and play 5? No! The point was to keep the playoffs in-division and build rivalries and Bettman & Co. **** that up, too! WHATEVER! I'm done. Get that moron away from my league.

So you want two sets of rules? 1 for when there is an even split of playoff teams from the 2 divisions, and another for when it's an even split? Just doesn't seem sensible.
 
So you want two sets of rules? 1 for when there is an even split of playoff teams from the 2 divisions, and another for when it's an even split? Just doesn't seem sensible.

Yeah, I do. Use the crossover only when you NEED to. The idea of the two wildcards is to assure that a much better division will send 5 teams to the playoffs. What doesn't seem sensible to me is to reformat the playoffs to emphasize divisional rivalries... then have teams jump over to the other division for the playoffs when it's unnecessary to do so.

Seriously, is there ever such a huge gap between the 7th and 8th teams in the conference that you have to throw away a divisional playoff matchup, something the league was trying to emphasize with realignment in the first place?
 
This is my idea... and IMO definitely the best way to do things.

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Of course this makes too much sense and the NHL will never adopt it.
 
The worst part about the realignment is that it takes like .3 seconds longer to scroll to the Rangers forum now. It's ****ing torture. I don't know how the Western Conference fans do this.
 
Yeah, I do. Use the crossover only when you NEED to. The idea of the two wildcards is to assure that a much better division will send 5 teams to the playoffs. What doesn't seem sensible to me is to reformat the playoffs to emphasize divisional rivalries... then have teams jump over to the other division for the playoffs when it's unnecessary to do so.

Seriously, is there ever such a huge gap between the 7th and 8th teams in the conference that you have to throw away a divisional playoff matchup, something the league was trying to emphasize with realignment in the first place?

Screw the cross-over. Top-4 and that is it. If you finish 5th in your division and have a better record than the team that finished 4th in the other division, well TOO BAD! Happens in the NFL all the time where a team misses out on a wild card but has a better record than a division winner. TOO BAD.
 
My guess would be they will be named something that has to do with jets or breaking the sound barrier.

The Manitoba team should not have been named Jets, again. They should have been named Moose. And had that name free for the city nick named "Jet City".

Oh well. NHL's continued lack of foresight and logic.
So, a team should not be able to use the name they want so they could save the name for a team that is yet to exist? Should the NFL blocked the Jets from changing from Titans to save "Jets" for Seattle?
 
It really is.

Made more so by the fact the other "eastern" division is named "Atlantic". How in heck does one name a division "Atlantic" when only two teams of the 8 play in cities located near the Atlantic Ocean.

Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay, Buffalo...

Only the Bruins and Panthers are on the Atlantic coast. Tampa Bay is on a bay off of the Gulf of Mexico. Toronto and Detroit are no where near the Atlantic.

What moron came up with these names.

"Metropolitain"??? Which Metropolitain area are we talking about? New York. Ok, what about Carolina, Columbus, Washington, Pittsburgh who have nothing to do with the New York Metropolitain area?

My head hurts trying to think of ways to justify how incompetent this league is.

They could easily have put the two Florida teams in our division and moved Pittsburgh and Columbus to the other. Named ours "Atlantic" and theirs "North East".

This is right up there with the glow puck and shootout. Gimmick nonsense.
It really is a terrible name. It is something you would see in the WNBA, MLS, or Arena Football League.

I'm just calling it the Patrick Division.
 
Really guys...the outrage here is beyond silly. Most of you guys are certainly younger than me (my first game at MSG was in 1961) and young minds are supposed to deal with change better than older minds. Change is life: nothing stays the same (or should it). It's only a label. No matter what any of us would suggest that seems logical to us, a hundred others would shoot it down as ridiculous. There wasn't a name that would make everyone happy and fit the parameters of each division. I've certainly tried to think of one and couldn't. The idea of coming up with a name first and than fitting teams into that name is putting the cart before the horse for sure.

Metropolitan certainly sounds strange and will take some getting used to. It is far from perfect but soon will be the new normal. Certainly many of you who are complaining now will, at some point in the future when things are changed again, be the first to defend the Metropolitan name as being fine, time-tested, and "traditional."

The realignment isn't perfect, but again, no system would make everyone happy. It is a compromise based on travel expenses more than anything with the big problem being the two Florida teams, out of place in whatever system was used, and the need to move Detroit into the East, where it belongs because of its time zone placement. I'm certainly happy with the teams that make up the Metropolitan Division and looking forward to games with Columbus. Its a great move for the Jackets and will help, finally, establish them was a legit franchise.

Lighten up guys with the venom and vitriol over a name. Maybe its the heat. We'll all get used to it. Many of you sound as if you're 65 (my age) rather than in your teens or twenties. You sound as if, if you were around in 1967, would have been against expansion and would have wanted to keep the Original Six around forever.

As for the schedule: the NHL seems to swing back and forth between two poles. Schedules are set up so as all teams play every other team each year so as fans in each city can see stars on other teams. After a few years of that, fans get turned off by too many boring, mid-season games against teams they never see and are turned off by the lack of emotion in the games (no history between the teams). Fans start clamoring for more emotion-packed, rivalry games against division opponents. The schedule is changed so as to have more division games. That lasts a few years before fans start wanting to see the stars on other teams and the pendulum swings again. Personally, I like more games against division rivals. I grew up with the Original Six where the Rangers played each of the other teams 14 times a year and each game was against a traditional rival. I grew up in an era where the New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers played each other 22 times a year.

But, we are in an era now where we will play everyone. So be it. I can live with it. I can live with new division names (I've certainly seen many over the years).

On July 21 the only thing that really matters to me, is thinking about hearing Sam Rosen saying "This is New York Rangers Hockey" and the season starting. The name of our division is trivial. Lighten up. The NHL leadership team certainly is not the swiftest car in the race and have made many decisions that leave you shaking your head. But the name of a division is not a big deal. Metropolitan? Fine. Whatever.Let's play hockey.
 
It really is.

Made more so by the fact the other "eastern" division is named "Atlantic". How in heck does one name a division "Atlantic" when only two teams of the 8 play in cities located near the Atlantic Ocean.

Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay, Buffalo...

Only the Bruins and Panthers are on the Atlantic coast. Tampa Bay is on a bay off of the Gulf of Mexico. Toronto and Detroit are no where near the Atlantic.

What moron came up with these names.

"Metropolitain"??? Which Metropolitain area are we talking about? New York. Ok, what about Carolina, Columbus, Washington, Pittsburgh who have nothing to do with the New York Metropolitain area?

My head hurts trying to think of ways to justify how incompetent this league is.

They could easily have put the two Florida teams in our division and moved Pittsburgh and Columbus to the other. Named ours "Atlantic" and theirs "North East".

This is right up there with the glow puck and shootout. Gimmick nonsense.

I have seen a couple of things about the entire east coast from NYC to DC being one huge metropolitan area. Think about it, there's not a lot of rural areas in that region. The only real outliers in this case are Carolina, Columbus, and maybe Pittsburgh.
 
'Metropolitan' doesn't mean New York City area. If you don't like the name thats one thing, but metropolitan doesn't mean New York.
 
What a stupid schedule. Only 5 afternoon games (early evening for us Europeans) :(
 
9 game road trip to start? What the **** is that ****? Damnit. Was planning on being in NY in mid October and hoping to catch a game. ****!
 
Really guys...the outrage here is beyond silly. Most of you guys are certainly younger than me (my first game at MSG was in 1961) and young minds are supposed to deal with change better than older minds. Change is life: nothing stays the same (or should it). It's only a label. No matter what any of us would suggest that seems logical to us, a hundred others would shoot it down as ridiculous. There wasn't a name that would make everyone happy and fit the parameters of each division. I've certainly tried to think of one and couldn't. The idea of coming up with a name first and than fitting teams into that name is putting the cart before the horse for sure.

Metropolitan certainly sounds strange and will take some getting used to. It is far from perfect but soon will be the new normal. Certainly many of you who are complaining now will, at some point in the future when things are changed again, be the first to defend the Metropolitan name as being fine, time-tested, and "traditional."

The realignment isn't perfect, but again, no system would make everyone happy. It is a compromise based on travel expenses more than anything with the big problem being the two Florida teams, out of place in whatever system was used, and the need to move Detroit into the East, where it belongs because of its time zone placement. I'm certainly happy with the teams that make up the Metropolitan Division and looking forward to games with Columbus. Its a great move for the Jackets and will help, finally, establish them was a legit franchise.

Lighten up guys with the venom and vitriol over a name. Maybe its the heat. We'll all get used to it. Many of you sound as if you're 65 (my age) rather than in your teens or twenties. You sound as if, if you were around in 1967, would have been against expansion and would have wanted to keep the Original Six around forever.

As for the schedule: the NHL seems to swing back and forth between two poles. Schedules are set up so as all teams play every other team each year so as fans in each city can see stars on other teams. After a few years of that, fans get turned off by too many boring, mid-season games against teams they never see and are turned off by the lack of emotion in the games (no history between the teams). Fans start clamoring for more emotion-packed, rivalry games against division opponents. The schedule is changed so as to have more division games. That lasts a few years before fans start wanting to see the stars on other teams and the pendulum swings again. Personally, I like more games against division rivals. I grew up with the Original Six where the Rangers played each of the other teams 14 times a year and each game was against a traditional rival. I grew up in an era where the New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers played each other 22 times a year.

But, we are in an era now where we will play everyone. So be it. I can live with it. I can live with new division names (I've certainly seen many over the years).

On July 21 the only thing that really matters to me, is thinking about hearing Sam Rosen saying "This is New York Rangers Hockey" and the season starting. The name of our division is trivial. Lighten up. The NHL leadership team certainly is not the swiftest car in the race and have made many decisions that leave you shaking your head. But the name of a division is not a big deal. Metropolitan? Fine. Whatever.Let's play hockey.

Good points.
 
9 game road trip to start? What the **** is that ****? Damnit. Was planning on being in NY in mid October and hoping to catch a game. ****!

The road trip did wonders to team morale and chemistry in 2011-12. Brought them together. Not only that, but when I went to the home opener that year against Toronto the new accommodations made the whole wait absolutely worth it, even if they lost. I remember my first game at MSG as a kid and thinking "THIS is the World's Most Famous Arena"? The new look gives the Rangers a building totally worthy of an Original Six Team :yo:

Also, with AV coming in and providing a looser attitude around the locker room, I expect them to come out of the gate firing and putting on an offensive spectacle. I'm super serial.
 
The road trip did wonders to team morale and chemistry in 2011-12. Brought them together. Not only that, but when I went to the home opener that year against Toronto the new accommodations made the whole wait absolutely worth it, even if they lost. I remember my first game at MSG as a kid and thinking "THIS is the World's Most Famous Arena"? The new look gives the Rangers a building totally worthy of an Original Six Team :yo:

Also, with AV coming in and providing a looser attitude around the locker room, I expect them to come out of the gate firing and putting on an offensive spectacle. I'm super serial.

Maybe the look does. lol
 
Really guys...the outrage here is beyond silly. Most of you guys are certainly younger than me (my first game at MSG was in 1961) and young minds are supposed to deal with change better than older minds. Change is life: nothing stays the same (or should it). It's only a label. No matter what any of us would suggest that seems logical to us, a hundred others would shoot it down as ridiculous. There wasn't a name that would make everyone happy and fit the parameters of each division. I've certainly tried to think of one and couldn't. The idea of coming up with a name first and than fitting teams into that name is putting the cart before the horse for sure.

Metropolitan certainly sounds strange and will take some getting used to. It is far from perfect but soon will be the new normal. Certainly many of you who are complaining now will, at some point in the future when things are changed again, be the first to defend the Metropolitan name as being fine, time-tested, and "traditional."

The realignment isn't perfect, but again, no system would make everyone happy. It is a compromise based on travel expenses more than anything with the big problem being the two Florida teams, out of place in whatever system was used, and the need to move Detroit into the East, where it belongs because of its time zone placement. I'm certainly happy with the teams that make up the Metropolitan Division and looking forward to games with Columbus. Its a great move for the Jackets and will help, finally, establish them was a legit franchise.

Lighten up guys with the venom and vitriol over a name. Maybe its the heat. We'll all get used to it. Many of you sound as if you're 65 (my age) rather than in your teens or twenties. You sound as if, if you were around in 1967, would have been against expansion and would have wanted to keep the Original Six around forever.

As for the schedule: the NHL seems to swing back and forth between two poles. Schedules are set up so as all teams play every other team each year so as fans in each city can see stars on other teams. After a few years of that, fans get turned off by too many boring, mid-season games against teams they never see and are turned off by the lack of emotion in the games (no history between the teams). Fans start clamoring for more emotion-packed, rivalry games against division opponents. The schedule is changed so as to have more division games. That lasts a few years before fans start wanting to see the stars on other teams and the pendulum swings again. Personally, I like more games against division rivals. I grew up with the Original Six where the Rangers played each of the other teams 14 times a year and each game was against a traditional rival. I grew up in an era where the New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers played each other 22 times a year.

But, we are in an era now where we will play everyone. So be it. I can live with it. I can live with new division names (I've certainly seen many over the years).

On July 21 the only thing that really matters to me, is thinking about hearing Sam Rosen saying "This is New York Rangers Hockey" and the season starting. The name of our division is trivial. Lighten up. The NHL leadership team certainly is not the swiftest car in the race and have made many decisions that leave you shaking your head. But the name of a division is not a big deal. Metropolitan? Fine. Whatever.Let's play hockey.

EXACTLY. We are in our teens and twenties... meaning our experience with Ranger hockey has largely been during the 1998-2013 alignment, where the Atlantic was the fiercest division with the best rivalries. Maybe PIT-NYI wasn't all that nasty... but literally EVERY other matchup was one to really look forward to. And the Rangers had 24 of them a year!

Now... 24 games with PIT/PHI/NJD/NYI is reduced to 18 so we can see more teams most of us don't care about like Calgary, Carolina, and Minnesota. Why? Because they want OUR stars to come in to their buildings every year and boost interest out where the NHL hasn't been able to develop their own good rivalries. The NHL wasn't always the best product, but at least our division was ******* awesome. Instead, they just dilute the product across the league and spread the mediocrity around.

Then... let's just slap a stupid ass name on the division to rub it all in. I'm so sick of Bettman and the useless, incompetent ****show he's been running for the last 20 years. Go back to the NBA you little dweeb and leave our league alone.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(comics)

:sarcasm:

The Spin Doctors wrote a song about our new division!

Well, I don't think I can handle this
A cloudy day in metropolis
I think I'll talk to my analyst
I got it so bad for this little journalist
It drives me up the wall and through the roof
Lois and clark in a telephone booth
I think I'm going out of my brain
I got it so bad for little miss lois lane

EDIT - Oh, by the way...

Brain Jennings - Executive VP Marketing, NHL

LinkedIn
(searching for an email, will edit again when I find one)

NHL email convention is (firstinitial)[email protected]

So

[email protected]

He'll be hearing from me Monday morning.
 
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"Metropolitan" Division... Say wat?

The games against Lumbus should be fun though. I can foresee DZ setting up Duby, Gabs and Artie already.
 
EXACTLY. We are in our teens and twenties... meaning our experience with Ranger hockey has largely been during the 1998-2013 alignment, where the Atlantic was the fiercest division with the best rivalries. Maybe PIT-NYI wasn't all that nasty... but literally EVERY other matchup was one to really look forward to. And the Rangers had 24 of them a year!

Now... 24 games with PIT/PHI/NJD/NYI is reduced to 18 so we can see more teams most of us don't care about like Calgary, Carolina, and Minnesota. Why? Because they want OUR stars to come in to their buildings every year and boost interest out where the NHL hasn't been able to develop their own good rivalries. The NHL wasn't always the best product, but at least our division was ******* awesome. Instead, they just dilute the product across the league and spread the mediocrity around.

Then... let's just slap a stupid ass name on the division to rub it all in. I'm so sick of Bettman and the useless, incompetent ****show he's been running for the last 20 years. Go back to the NBA you little dweeb and leave our league alone.
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Jesus Christ dude :facepalm:

The Rangers have one of the best schedules in the NHL and people ***** because we don't see the Flyers an extra game? You know we are much more likely to see them in the playoffs with this format, right?
 

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