OT: 2013-2014 NFL Thread II? (Giants suck; Jets play Monday)

[ImIdaho]

He's not been unbelievably bad this year? Really?

He's made dumb-headed plays. Really dumb plays. But for two games, he's been our offense.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Does Eli want to kill Nicks? He's stretching him out every ****ing play.

 

[silverfish]

That's a clean hit on Nicks. I hate that rule.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

He's made dumb-headed plays. Really dumb plays. But for two games, he's been our offense.

I would argue that our WRs have bailed him out all season so far. Last game he was overthrowing or underthrowing them on almost every play. It was really bad. And he's been stretching the WRs out all season so far, too. He's going to get someone killed.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

6 picks in two games.

Ugh.

 

[silverfish]

If you're a defensive back, how do you play this game?

No wonder this league is so pass heavy.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

At least Scott wants to keep his roster spot.

 

[30theking]

Please rangers do something this year. Giants and Yankees are giant embarrassments who are on their way down.

 

[ImIdaho]

I would argue that our WRs have bailed him out all season so far. Last game he was overthrowing or underthrowing them on almost every play. It was really bad. And he's been stretching the WRs out all season so far, too. He's going to get someone killed.

Like losing the ball in the endzone that could have resulted in a TD? Or botching an easy pass that resulted in a dislocated finger? Our O-line is playing like ****. We have over 70 yards rushing..in two games. Our TE situation is a downgrade.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

I would argue that our WRs have bailed him out all season so far. Last game he was overthrowing or underthrowing them on almost every play. It was really bad. And he's been stretching the WRs out all season so far, too. He's going to get someone killed.

Three receivers had over 100 yrds last week. They were not bailing him out.

 

[JCrusher*]

6 picks in two games.

Ugh.

Im not a Giants fan but i cant blame eli for all those. may of those were bad plays by the wide recievers and if you throw as much as the giants throw there will be picks

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Like losing the ball in the endzone that could have resulted in a TD? Or botching an easy pass that resulted in a dislocated finger? Our O-line is playing like ****. We have over 70 yards rushing..in two games. Our TE situation is a downgrade.

So any receiver that ever drops a ball is automatically going to be Eli not playing like ****? Eli can play **** with the rest of the team. And he has. He's killed this team with his stupid ****ing interceptions, too. The only one I give him a pass on is the foot-erception.

Three receivers had over 100 yards last week. They were not bailing him out.

Uh, yeah. And almost all of the catches were hard to grab balls. Eli was atrocious last week and was stretching out receivers all night. Are you sure you were watching the game? Frankly, he's lucky he didn't get anyone hurt.

I see the Eli apologists are out in full force. Two **** games and he still gets a pass. I love it (not including you in that, ImIdaho).

 

[silverfish]

Still don't think it's fair to single players out after a game like today, seriously, you can call out anyone tonight...

Eli was poor.
The O-Line was especially poor, which led to a poor showing from Wilson and Jacobs (and Eli, in some manner).
The D-Line was good on runs up the middle, but not great at getting pressure on Peyton.
The linebackers were once again atrocious.
Prince once again gets absolutely picked apart.
Mundy continues to be late on his coverages.
Weatherford was crap punting.

Josh Brown was good.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

So any receiver that ever drops a ball is automatically going to be Eli not playing like ****? Eli can play **** with the rest of the team. And he has. He's killed this team with his stupid ****ing interceptions, too. The only one I give him a pass on is the foot-erception.



Uh, yeah. And almost all of the catches were hard to grab balls. Eli was atrocious last week and was stretching out receivers all night. Are you sure you were watching the game? Frankly, he's lucky he didn't get anyone hurt.

I see the Eli apologists are out in full force. Two **** games and he still gets a pass. I love it (not including you in that, ImIdaho).

It sounds like you weren't watching the games. He had that first play of the game pick and the second INT was miscommunication.
A QB throwing for 450 yrds is not being "bailed" out by his receivers. Eli finished the game with a 64% completion. SO how inaccurate was he?

 

[ImIdaho]

So any receiver that ever drops a ball is automatically going to be Eli not playing like ****? Eli can play **** with the rest of the team. And he has. He's killed this team with his stupid ****ing interceptions, too. The only one I give him a pass on is the foot-erception.

I'm not disputing Eli can't play ****. Us being in the hole against Dallas and Denver is also a result of him. I say also because Wilson didn't help matters last game, too.

This game? Missed tackles. Us making Peyton look like a mobile QB. A fumble that should have been recovered. Randle thinking he's got an easy TD. "I'm made of glass" Nicks getting a dislocated finger because he closed his fingers too soon. A running game that is still non-existent. Like someone else said, we have a team where we have to air it out to stand a chance.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

It sounds like you weren't watching the games. He had that first play of the game pick and the second INT was miscommunication.
A QB throwing for 450 yrds is not being "bailed" out by his receivers. Eli finished the game with a 64% completion. SO how inaccurate was he?

How much football do you watch? I'm not saying that to be an *******, but a serious question. QBs who are inaccurate put up big numbers all the time when they have legitimate star WRs.

Cruz and Nicks are two star players (Nicks when healthy). Randle is a star in the making. Eli has ELITE weapons. He has all the tools and has squandered it so far this season.

I see QBs overthrow or underthrow players every game. Eli has never been the most accurate and that has only been magnified this year. How many passes did Eli overthrow today? Every time Nicks went up it seemed like he was completely exposed below the neck.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I'm not disputing Eli can't play ****. Us being in the hole against Dallas and Denver is also a result of him. I say also because Wilson didn't help matters last game, too.

This game? Missed tackles. Us making Peyton look like a mobile QB. A fumble that should have been recovered. Randle thinking he's got an easy TD. "I'm made of glass" Nicks getting a dislocated finger because he closed his fingers too soon. A running game that is still non-existent. Like someone else said, we have a team where we have to air it out to stand a chance.

I'm sorry, but the defense was fine this game. They got tired because Eli and the RBs couldn't keep the offense on the field. I normally kill Fewell, but the defense has actually been quite solid both games so far. They just get zero time to rest. That's a major problem and will come back to kill us later in the season if we somehow get in the position of making the playoffs.

 

[ImIdaho]

Cruz and Nicks are two star players (Nicks when healthy). Randle is a star in the making. Eli has ELITE weapons. He has all the tools and has squandered it so far this season.

Does he? I think our TEs are a downgrade. Our O-line is worse compared to last season. And our running corp is playing like ****. I can't put Cox into that equation because that's all on Coughlin for not letting him see more snaps.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

@ Jonathan. Listening to the national media, local media other teams fans all week, you're the only person (and I mean literally) that thinks he Eli was bailed out by receivers against the Cowboys. Just stop. I'm done.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Also, Kiwi needs to go. Same with Tuck.

I would cut:

Kiwi
Tuck
Diehl
Webster
Baas
Jacobs
Snee
Cordle
Scott
Painter
Myes
Pascoe
Rogers
Herz
Mundy
Ross

 

[silverfish]

Thank you, ImIdaho.

Just because Eli has two star receivers, and an up-and-comer in Randle, does NOT mean he has elite tools all around him

The offensive line is a complete **** show. He barely has any time. And when teams know you're a pass-heavy offense like the Giants have become because they can't do **** on the ground, Eli is going to face the music on the stat sheet.

A huge weapon at Eli's disposal is the play-action. This is something he has not been able to utilize yet this season.

I'm not apologizing for Eli tonight, he was crap. But this shouldn't be a discussion.

Talk about your boy Prince Amukamara who continues to get picked apart by NFL QBs.

(Love ya, Jon).

 

[ImIdaho]

I'm sorry, but the defense was fine this game. They got tired because Eli and the RBs couldn't keep the offense on the field. I normally kill Fewell, but the defense has actually been quite solid both games so far. They just get zero time to rest. That's a major problem and will come back to kill us later in the season if we somehow get in the position of making the playoffs.

They had Peyton dead to rights, twice. Once in the 2nd and once in the 3rd. Peyton continued the play on one drive and he scored a TD on the second missed attempt. In the 3rd, what was Herzlich doing with that fumble? Did we sack Peyton in this one?

I'm sorry, but when you can make Peyton scramble in the pocket, avoid sacks like he did in this game, that's on the D.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

@ Jonathan. Listening to the national media, local media other teams fans all week, you're the only person (and I mean literally) that thinks he Eli was bailed out by receivers against the Cowboys. Just stop. I'm done.

Why would I have to listen to any media to get my view of the game? You can rely on that all you want. I have eyes. I don't need the media or stat sheets. Enjoy them.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

Well, we started 0-2 back in 07.

I guess that means something lol.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

They had Peyton dead to rights, twice. Once in the 2nd and once in the 3rd. Peyton continued the play on one drive and he scored a TD on the second missed attempt. In the 3rd, what was Herzlich doing with that fumble? Did we sack Peyton in this one?

I'm sorry, but when you can make Peyton scramble in the pocket, avoid sacks like he did in this game, that's on the D.

It's going to happen when you can't keep the offense on the field, man. It's the way football works. These guys don't recharge their stamina bars like in Madden. The defense played fantastic in the first half and started out well in the 2nd half. They are exhausted now.