GDT: #17 - 11/10/18 | RANGERS @ blue jackets | 7:00 - MSG

[KirkAlbuquerque]

These are the kind of games I wanted to see this season.

 

[Rempe73]

And you kind of see that reflected on here.

There are times he looks amazing and you say to yourself, “Why in the world would we trade him?”

But I also think there is a tendency to over-project him a little.

He’s not yet shown himself to be that 55-60 point second line center that we sometimes push him toward. That’s not a knock on him per se. But I think we sometimes forget that this is a guy who has cracked 20 goals once and never broken 50 points.

Again, not all about points. But I admit to there being a hesitancy there.

Right. That consistency needs to be there. I don’t know why it isn’t, but he’s certainly proven he’s capable of doing it. I’m not even asking him to do it every game. Even if he plays like this 30-40% of the time, he can definitely break 50-60 points.

By the way Edge, your posts are pretty much always on point. Damn.

 

[Edge]

I agree with you that we should keep hayes, but the idea is Lias Chytil or Howden can eventually take over that spot. My problem is I don't get why we cant move anyone to the wing

Probably depends on a number of factors. Do the Rangers move both Andersson and Chytil to the wing? Because that’s what happens if you have Zibanejad, Hayes and Howden down the middle.

Even if you start one of Anderson and Chytil as the fourth line center, you can’t really keep them long-term.

If the Rangers pick high in June, it’s hard to pass on some of the centers there as well.

I don’t have a great answer to the situation. There’s a lot of moving parts and at some point it’s going to be the assumption of risk one way or the other.

 

[will1066]

Huh, it’s weird. I could’ve sworn someone told us Hayes didn’t try and only got garbage points because he wanted a contract. Weird, it’s almost like we said he’d score when he wasn’t getting used like Brandon Sutter.

These last few games have been different though. It seems like he's playing with clarity and high IQ, like he has a clear head, not even joking about that. He's moving too, not floating.

 

[Svenhart2008]

Nice backcheck Filip

 

[Harbour Dog]

Man, and I'm sick of hearing Chytil and McLeod in the same sentence.

 

[Fitzy]

McLeod is the kid on the gym team that no one will pass to because they know he'll f*** it up.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Look at ADA with that poise when he has two players all over him, compared to Pionk when there's nobody within 30 feet of him, panics and passes it to the other team

 

[Ghost of jas]

So close, Zibby.

 

[will1066]

Buch with Chytil. Nice.

 

[Rempe73]

20 miles, 20 smiles. Love Valley, how could you not? He certainly is a homer, but very insightful and boy, does he do his homework. 24/7 hockey. Is he married? I bet not, my gf doesnt even wanna deal with me and i am like only 18/7 hockey. Gotta get some sleep.....right?

I used to think Vally was the type of guy that dumb people think is smart, but I was very wrong. He is a hockey genius.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Same.

Hey man you start doing weird shit when you own a home. I mowed my lawn today and actually enjoyed it.

 

[The S5]

Probably depends on a number of factors. Do the Rangers move both Andersson and Chytil to the wing? Because that’s what happens if you have Zibanejad, Hayes and Howden down the middle.

Even if you start one of Anderson and Chytil as the fourth line center, you can’t really keep them long-term.

If the Rangers pick high in June, it’s hard to pass on some of the centers there as well.

I don’t have a great answer to the situation. There’s a lot of moving parts and at some point it’s going to be the assumption of risk one way or the other.

Will Lias ever develop the skill of Hayes? I haven't seen it yet. I see him as a third line C or a 2nd line wing.

 

[will1066]

I don't see the confidence-being-shot issue some have said. It looks like Chytil is playing more confidently by the game.

 

[RangerLifer]

I thought Zib had a wrap around goal there.

 

[Larrybiv]

Zbad.....just 1/100 of a second faster.....its in, on wraparound.

 

[will1066]

Staal: Kept looking at the guy's chest and not the puck. Good.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Probably depends on a number of factors. Do the Rangers move both Andersson and Chytil to the wing? Because that’s what happens if you have Zibanejad, Hayes and Howden down the middle.

Even if you start one of Anderson and Chytil as the fourth line center, you can’t really keep them long-term.

If the Rangers pick high in June, it’s hard to pass on some of the centers there as well.

I don’t have a great answer to the situation. There’s a lot of moving parts and at some point it’s going to be the assumption of risk one way or the other.

I would like to maybe see Hayes on the Wing, Ik he wasnt that good the last time he played there but I'm interested to see it with a new chach

 

[The S5]

How about that defensive play by Hayes on Panarin? Remember this next time he makes a boneheaded pass.

 

[Larrybiv]

Final score 6-5 book it. Who wins? Hell, i aint no nostradamus. Lol.

 

[Tob]

For his sake, I hope Shattenkirk has been playing with SARS.

 

[Justin17]

Good play by Pionk

 

[Edge]

Will Lias ever develop the skill of Hayes? I haven't seen it yet. I see him as a third line C or a 2nd line wing.

I think the overall upside is st least in the same ballpark. And that doesn’t count Chytil or even Howden, who was actually outpacing Hayes prior to his injury.

So there are several moving parts the Rangers will have to make judgement calls on.

 

[Rempe73]

Look at ADA with that poise when he has two players all over him, compared to Pionk when there's nobody within 30 feet of him, panics and passes it to the other team

They are both pretty poised, I would say. But Pionk’s poise is more evident in the offensive zone, whereas DeAngelo has poise in all 3 zones.

 

[Larrybiv]

Guess that was a lousy play by Pionk? Right Jovo?