Prospect Info: 15th Overall, Michael Brandsegg-Nygaard

[FriendlyGhost92]

Raymond and Seider got signed so now the management whiners have moved on to complaining about MBN's potential league assignment lmao.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Raymond and Seider got signed so now the management whiners have moved on to complaining about MBN's potential league assignment lmao.

no, some of them are complaining about kasper shooting low

 

[13to40]

I think you send him back overseas. Let him play top line with some PP time. This is not a player who should be rushed into developing.

Has the tools to be a special add to the big team in 1-3 years. Let him take whatever time is needed to perfect the areas of his game that are lacking.

Big rink = more room to skate. Have him monitored closely by one of our many Swedish scouts.

GR is looking crowded as it is, don’t need to add to the logjam…

 

[Gniwder]

no, some of them are complaining about kasper shooting low

LOL, I never complained about the RFA contract negotiations this summer, in fact I was setting up for the eventual management whining that's gonna happen when Kasper gets sent down.

I'd like to see MBN in GR, but if he gets sent to the SHL, it's not that big of a deal. We're all on the assumption that MBN and Danielson will eventually be linemates, so I'd like to see them get a head start on that.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I think he’s a pretty smart, versatile player who you could plug in play in the SHL or AHL and he’d do alright. Off the ice, I wonder if he’d be best served having another year in Sweden before uprooting to NA.

 

[SantosHalper]

MBN goes back to Sweden for this season, AHL next season. Kasper and Mazur starts in Detroit in 2025-26 season and that opens up conveniently 2 spots for MBN and Finnie.

GR 2024-25
Snively - Kasper - Mazur
Dries - Danielson - Söderblom
Rychlovsky - Lombardi - Watson?/Shine
Gettinger - Seger - Shine/Johannes
Johannes/Bantle - Doucet - Hanas

Lagesson - Tuomisto
Wallinder - Rafferty
Buium - Didier
Viro - Dello

That's a deep roster already for this season and Savage & James might get signed after their college games end, to add even more depth. MBN's contract with Skellefteå was announced in May but contract was done probably couple months before that, so their coach and sports director has a role planned out for him. SHL is a best place for MBN for this season.

GR 2025-26
Snively?/X - Danielson - MBN
Dries - Lombardi - Finnie/Söderblom?
Rychlovsky - Savage? - Finnie/James?
James?/X - Becher?/X - X
Bantle - Doucet - Becher?/X

Wallinder - Tuomisto
Vet - ASP
Buium - Vet
X - X

Much more room in next season's team for MBN to play in big role. It's those Stevie's chessmoves, they all line up.... Before someone ask's "where's Buchhelnikov", well he is signed until 2026 and after that season Danielson starts in Detroit. That opens up conveniently (again) a top-6 spot.

GR 2026-27
Finnie - Lombardi - MBN
Vet - Vet - Buchelnikov
James - Savage - Vet/Plante?/Kiiskinen?
Bicker? - Becher?/X - X

Buium - ASP
Vet - AnJo
Cleveland - Vet
X - X

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Get him playing top 6 minutes in GR and bump a vet winger down a line if needed.

 

[Henkka]

We have too many kids in GR already. If Kasper and Mazur gone then MBN should play in GR. They should have some veterans.
Kasper, Mazur, Lombardi, Danielson, Finnie, Hanas, Ruchlovsky, Doucet and Becher I hope

Where do you put Becher?

To injury list. Probably somebody goes to Toledo.

 

[ItWasJustified]

I think he’s a pretty smart, versatile player who you could plug in play in the SHL or AHL and he’d do alright. Off the ice, I wonder if he’d be best served having another year in Sweden before uprooting to NA.

Of course it's better if he gets another year in Sweden. There are extremely few European players that benefit from playing NHL/AHL hockey right after the draft.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Of course it's better if he gets another year in Sweden. There are extremely few European players that benefit from playing NHL/AHL hockey right after the draft.

I tend to agree and considering Raymond, Edvinsson, Kasper, and ASP all played their D+1 in Sweden, I think the safe money is on another year in Sweden.

 

[Webster]

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Of course it's better if he gets another year in Sweden. There are extremely few European players that benefit from playing NHL/AHL hockey right after the draft.

And you normally don't see a kid they just drafted in the big club's training camp either. Why? Because they believe MBN is more mature than a typical 18 yr old, both when it comes to his game and his personality.

A year in Sweden could be a waste of time if he's close to NHL ready, then it's better to stay in the minors and get to know his future linemates.

So I'd say we'll see him play in the AHL, then he'll be available. But I think it also depends on where he wants to play.

 

[Oddbob]

I do wonder how NHL teams approach this topic, do they follow some game book? I'm guessing that it's highly dependent on the individual and it's always a judgement call where the prospect should play.

Would be fun though if they have a spreadsheet where a player is most likely to best develop certain skills. Like AHL for improving your bus riding ability. Rögle to improve that dog in you, and so on.

A lot of it is going to be on how they are as a person. Some players aren't ready to leave their country and go far away at 18-20 years old and some are. MBN sounds like he is ready for such a move. Euro teams also seem to be vet heavy moreso and where the player is going to get good ice time is also a factor.

 

[Oddbob]

Of course it's better if he gets another year in Sweden. There are extremely few European players that benefit from playing NHL/AHL hockey right after the draft.

There is plenty of good things to learn in the AHL compared to SHL. More physical game, tighter quarters to work with, also more NA style of game where they can work on stuff. If he isn't getting prime minutes in Sweden I would much rather he be in GR if he is ready to come over as he seems to be.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

To me he just does all the little things right, great in corner battles, great away from the puck, responsible defensively and a cannon of a shot. I think he’s too young this year and 82 games would be too much for him, but wouldn’t be surprised if he was on the team next year. I haven’t felt he’s been out of place at all when watching. I’d be fine with him staying in the AHL and having a line of him Danielson and mazur like what they trotted out tonight.

 

[ItWasJustified]

And you normally don't see a kid they just drafted in the big club's training camp either. Why? Because they believe MBN is more mature than a typical 18 yr old, both when it comes to his game and his personality.

A year in Sweden could be a waste of time if he's close to NHL ready, then it's better to stay in the minors and get to know his future linemates.

So I'd say we'll see him play in the AHL, then he'll be available. But I think it also depends on where he wants to play.

From what I know, he would be the first player going from Swedish tier 2 hockey to the NHL in his draft year. Where he also didn't have 0.5 PPG. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone thought he's NHL ready.

There is plenty of good things to learn in the AHL compared to SHL. More physical game, tighter quarters to work with, also more NA style of game where they can work on stuff. If he isn't getting prime minutes in Sweden I would much rather he be in GR if he is ready to come over as he seems to be.

There are countless of examples of players that has gone from the SHL to the NHL without having to stopover in the AHL. Especially forwards. Especially if they've taken 1-2 years extra in the SHL. I mean, Elias Pettersson and Peter Forsberg are just two prime examples of that. I'm also of the belief that it's better for a young player to be coached and developed in a language he can fully understand in a pro environment to be better prepared for the NHL.

 

[eojsmada]

I'm very curious to see what you all do with Nygaard. I would think it comes down to a couple of things, IMO. One, would he ever be a call-up this year for an injury. And two, will he physically develop better in SHL or AHL. My money is on the latter, simply because he's in a position, right now, to still be a top 6 forward in the AHL and he'll get more PP time down there as well. SHL is still very limiting on younger players and I think especially since the SHL has been in progress for a little bit now, I think they would be hesitant to give him the kind of playing time and opportunities that he would easily get in the AHL for you guys.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

From what I know, he would be the first player going from Swedish tier 2 hockey to the NHL in his draft year. Where he also didn't have 0.5 PPG. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone thought he's NHL ready.

There are countless of examples of players that has gone from the SHL to the NHL without having to stopover in the AHL. Especially forwards. Especially if they've taken 1-2 years extra in the SHL. I mean, Elias Pettersson and Peter Forsberg are just two prime examples of that. I'm also of the belief that it's better for a young player to be coached and developed in a language he can fully understand in a pro environment to be better prepared for the NHL.

Most Swedes I’ve met speak English better than North Americans.

 

[suovas]

I'm very curious to see what you all do with Nygaard. I would think it comes down to a couple of things, IMO. One, would he ever be a call-up this year for an injury. And two, will he physically develop better in SHL or AHL. My money is on the latter, simply because he's in a position, right now, to still be a top 6 forward in the AHL and he'll get more PP time down there as well. SHL is still very limiting on younger players and I think especially since the SHL has been in progress for a little bit now, I think they would be hesitant to give him the kind of playing time and opportunities that he would easily get in the AHL for you guys.

This is not true for Skelleftea, which is the SHL team with the most NHL prospects on roster. Skelleftea has four other NHL drafted prospects born 2005 on their roster, apart from MBN. Not all of them are as highly touted as ASP and MBN, but in the absence of MBN, Canes 5th rounder forward Oskar Vuollet got a chance in one of top lines the other day, and logged a hattrick. Skelleftea does not shy away from giving the NHL prospects lots of icetime. It has become their thing to be an attractive club for up and coming NHL prospects in order to be a competitive SHL club in a small market,. And a talent like MBN will for sure get a roster spot and plenty of icetime. Well, of course, he still has to work for it, there is competition. MBN could have chosen any SHL team, but he chose small town Skelleftea in far north of Sweden, because of their history of successfully harbouring lots of NHL prospects during the last 10-15 years.

 

[SantosHalper]

Euro teams also seem to be vet heavy moreso and where the player is going to get good ice time is also a factor.

If he isn't getting prime minutes in Sweden I would much rather he be in GR if he is ready to come over as he seems to be.

I wouldn't question that MBN wouldn't get ice time in SHL. Like i said in my previous post, MBN's contract with Skellefteå was announced in May but contract was done months before it. So obviously Skellefteå's coaching staff and sports director has a role planned out for him. Otherwise they wouldn't have signed him and MBN wouldn't have signed with them. Teams in Europe don't spent money on players that they ain't planning to use.

I would question more that MBN would get top minutes in GR, there will be Kasper, Mazur and Danielson in the top-6 and in PP units. And the vets, Snively and Dries. That leaves one spot open in the top-6 and we have Söderblom, whose contract ends after this season and i'll bet Wings wants to see if he is worth re-signing. Then the late bloomer Rychlovsky, whom Wings signed with 2-year deal in June. He's the type of player who is almost useless without PP time and since Wings signed him and he ain't our draft pick, i'll bet that they want to see what they got. Lombardi needs PP minutes too and the bottom-6 vets Shine and Gettinger is there for grit and PK-role.
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This starts to remind me when Kasper was picked and some people were desperate to get Kasper to NA. Same ice time/smaller rink excuses were used then too but as it was proved, it was a correct desicion to leave Kasper in Sweden for a year.

 

[Oddbob]

I wouldn't question that MBN wouldn't get ice time in SHL. Like i said in my previous post, MBN's contract with Skellefteå was announced in May but contract was done months before it. So obviously Skellefteå's coaching staff and sports director has a role planned out for him. Otherwise they wouldn't have signed him and MBN wouldn't have signed with them. Teams in Europe don't spent money on players that they ain't planning to use.

I would question more that MBN would get top minutes in GR, there will be Kasper, Mazur and Danielson in the top-6 and in PP units. And the vets, Snively and Dries. That leaves one spot open in the top-6 and we have Söderblom, whose contract ends after this season and I'll bet Wings wants to see if he is worth re-signing. Then the late bloomer Rychlovsky, whom Wings signed with 2-year deal in June. He's the type of player who is almost useless without PP time and since Wings signed him and he ain't our draft pick, I'll bet that they want to see what they got. Lombardi needs PP minutes too and the bottom-6 vets Shine and Gettinger is there for grit and PK-role.
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This starts to remind me when Kasper was picked and some people were desperate to get Kasper to NA. Same ice time/smaller rink excuses were used then too but as it was proved, it was a correct decision to leave Kasper in Sweden for a year.

It doesn't prove anything with Kasper. He could be where he is at right now if he had come to GR a year sooner. There is no definitive way to prove either side was right.

 

[Martin Elz]

From what I know, he would be the first player going from Swedish tier 2 hockey to the NHL in his draft year. Where he also didn't have 0.5 PPG. I would be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone thought he's NHL ready.

There are countless of examples of players that has gone from the SHL to the NHL without having to stopover in the AHL. Especially forwards. Especially if they've taken 1-2 years extra in the SHL. I mean, Elias Pettersson and Peter Forsberg are just two prime examples of that. I'm also of the belief that it's better for a young player to be coached and developed in a language he can fully understand in a pro environment to be better prepared for the NHL.

Jesper Bratt did it in 2016. He was picked in the 6th round. Crazy development.
Patrik Berglund, OEL and F.Forsberg did it in their D+1

 

[Snuggs]

I think he'll be back in Sweden, too close to home for the young fella, it's a real transition year for him. Learning to live on your own and learning how to be a professional is a real thing. Sweden is the best choice for him where he can return to friends/family for holidays, etc, but be far enough away to where he "feels alone" at times. Being in North America his first year as a professional with no support system outside of his team isn't' the best recipe for young fellas, imo.

It'd be similar imo, taking a 18-year-old and planting them in a EURO-league. Big transition, with language, etc, some guys do it but they're generational talent looking for cash... and a really good support system in place. *Auston Matthews with Switzerland. * Which, even that is different than Sweden, Switzerland is the size of Vermont/New Hampshire, players sleep in their beds just about every night. Sweden is around the same size of California, there's a bit more travel. Not anything like North American players traveling but still.

 

[SantosHalper]

It doesn't prove anything with Kasper. He could be where he is at right now if he had come to GR a year sooner. There is no definitive way to prove either side was right.

You can't argue that extra year in Sweden didn't help Kasper to mature more. Or Seider or Ray or Ed.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

You can't argue that extra year in Sweden didn't help Kasper to mature more. Or Seider or Ray or Ed.

Seider did his year in Sweden after going to NA, so that isn't a great example here.

With MBN I lean towards NA because of the guys I think he will be playing with. If they are committing to running him with a Danielson, Kasper, and Mazur type to start trying to find chemistry I am for it. He has a big body and plays the right way, I think we can fast track some of his development in GR this year. I don't think he loses out going back to Sweden, but I would rather keep him over here based on what I have seen.

 

[SantosHalper]

Seider did his year in Sweden after going to NA, so that isn't a great example here.

With MBN I lean towards NA because of the guys I think he will be playing with. If they are committing to running him with a Danielson, Kasper, and Mazur type to start trying to find chemistry I am for it. He has a big body and plays the right way, I think we can fast track some of his development in GR this year. I don't think he loses out going back to Sweden, but I would rather keep him over here based on what I have seen.

Still counts imo, could Seider been in Calder year shape if there wasn't for a year in Sweden in a massive role and leading his team to the finals. Maybe, maybe not.

I think people put too much weight on chemistry, they have chemistry or they don't. It's not really a reason to get a guy overseas too early. Detroit has no reason to fast track anyone and when was the last time Yzerman fast tracked anyone?

There just isn't enough minutes available in GR, this was just learning trip for MBN. He got to know the guys, he got to see how actual NHL professionals train, prepare etc.. he is 19-year(HBD!) old kid, he still has lot of things to learn how to become a professional athlete.