Prospect Info: #129 Arseny Gritsyuk RW

Guttersniped

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I really want a sign and loan... please?

Do you mean we sign him?

Not sure that makes sense with a player who would get a 2 year ELC. He just turned 22 on March 15th.

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MasterofGrond

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It’s so wild to me that the league gets away with treating European prospects differently than North American prospects.
Well the NHL directly controls the AHL, vs. the Europeans having their own unaffiliated top level leagues. The NHL and NA hockey federations work hand in glove, and that's simply not the case for the foreign leagues.
 
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Brodeur

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It’s so wild to me that the league gets away with treating European prospects differently than North American prospects.

Up until 2005, Europeans had to be drafted before entering the NHL. So you'd get a handful of guys in their mid-late 20s getting drafted every year.

I think they had to amend the CBA in the early 90's for European picks too. There was something goofy about not being able to draft a first time eligible European after round 3 unless they hit a certain games played threshold with their senior clubs. This caused somebody like Nicklas Lidstrom to go undrafted in his first year of eligibility. And the big game changer was when Vancouver drafted Pavel Bure in the 6th round in 1989. As soon as they announced the pick, a bunch of teams ran to Central Registry to protest because they were under the impression Bure wasn't eligible to be taken after the third round.

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I'm trying to understand how the sign+loan option works. For Mukhamadullin, the ELC slid because he signed at 19. But not sure if it would work differently for Gritsyuk. As others said the Kaprizov route might work best for him. Sign a 2 year ELC next spring, burn the first year, play one year on ELC in the NHL, then become RFA. If he were to sign a 2 year ELC now and the first year got burned during loan and he joined late in Year 2, he wouldn't have much on his NHL resumé for his next deal.
 

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