Exactly, and he can be a great resource to have around when Rielly breaks through, and play a steadying role with him as well. Having someone like Gunnarsson makes guys like Dion and Rielly better, because he provides a safe, calm aspect, that allows for the risk takers and offensive guys the freedom to open up and play their game a little more confidently.
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Exactly, and he can be a great resource to have around when Rielly breaks through, and play a steadying role with him as well. Having someone like Gunnarsson makes guys like Dion and Rielly better, because he provides a safe, calm aspect, that allows for the risk takers and offensive guys the freedom to open up and play their game a little more confidently.
Or are you misunderstanding people's posts on purpose.
Assuming that people were talking about Lehner's performances in the AHL (they were NOT), Binghamton finished 12th in the league, 7th in their conference when they won the Calder Cup in 2010-11.
They finished LAST in the league last year.
Not exactly the best team in the league.
A little research would have saved some poor egg from landing on your face.
And don't try your "I meant..." trick again.
We can only read what you wrote, not your mind.
Have you noticed who is #1 in Binghamton this year?
check how well they are doing THIS year! Who is talking about last year
Campbell will be a better goalie than Lehner 100%
Leafs should make a trade with Vancouver sending away Tyler Bozak and Nazem Kadri (as they still havent gotten him devoleped and don't even know where to play him), Ben Scrivens in exchange for Roberto Luongo.
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Brodin doesn't have the upside of Dumba, we have Finn, Percy, and Nilsson already in the system. Brodin has yet to score 1 goal in the SEL, not sure how Brodin has a better overall game when offensively he is not better than Dumba. Not even close actually.
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heard anything interesting lately?
perhaps how nonis feels about his team compared to burke?
based on his radio talks and whatnot, it certainly seems like he thinks this team is farther away from competing than burke did
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Your favourite scout Sonnier compared him to Doughty, not that I agree but would anyone compare a player to Doughty if that player is IQ challenged?
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We have Gunnarson already, Percy, Finn, and Nilsson in the system. Wouldn't it be prudent adding a physical defence man that has more upside than more of the same players we already have in the system? Are you forgetting the leadership component Dumba brings to a team, seems to me this team is sorely lacking in the passion department.
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Yeah, he believes in order for this team to make the playoffs, we need to see some marked improvement with some of the guys Burke believed would make those steps last year.
This team is going to struggle if Kulemin doesn't come to form, as well as JVR, Reimer and our Special Teams see some improvement.
Those aren't exactly slight wishes.
But what has to be noted is that Nonis was doing most of the GM legwork during Burke's last season or two, so this team does have his stamp on it and we wont see a major overhaul in terms of bodies moving out.
Nonis has intimate knowledge of what this team has, needs and could use.
We'll see some movement at some point this season, and he's got the pieces to make a significant move if it presents itself, and he's not going to shy away from making one if necessary.
This is why you take Brodin over Dumba, without even questioning the decision
http://thehockeywriters.com/jonasbrodin-prospectprofile/
He has/had 4pts in 8 games this year in Houston.... He's playing rather well.
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We may have trouble getting fair value for Kessel if he does not want to return and if he is to be dealt this deadline. Got to think teams will offer more for Perry if Murray can't re-sign him.
The deal that brought Kessel to town may still haunt us, asked a well known reporter if Chuck Fletcher would do Granlund for Kessel and he said unlikely. That's the challenge for Nonis if true and if Kessel will want to test FA.
The deal that brought Kessel to town may still haunt us, asked a well known reporter if Chuck Fletcher would do Granlund for Kessel and he said unlikely. That's the challenge for Nonis if true and if Kessel will want to test FA.
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Hockey writers? LOL
I quote GM's, well known respected scouts, and you give me a bloggers opinion?
I guess you just ignore the scout's and asst. GM from the Carolina Hurricanes that are there?
Right, it wouldn't suit your argument if you didn't... lol
No way... You are using no logical stats to back up your explanation. You stated that the baby Sens were the best team in the league, which they aren't. Even though we were talking about his stint with the Sens in which Lehner had played very well.
Lehner is above Campbell in all facets of the game.
Campbell has failed to become a starter in the AHL and was adequate in the Ohl. Nothing spectacular. The numbers he put up while playing on a stacked Spits team was very underwhelming.
At age 19 Lehner played a short stint of NHL games, and put up the same numbers as Campbell (at the same age) in the OHL.
Brodin is a better skater, has better hockey iq, vision, etc. he's a much more reliable D in his own zone.
I'd take players of his ilk over Dumba's for sure. Dumba's better at what? Offense and hitting? Meh, that's not what a D should be used for and that is just extra. Give me the 30-40 point defensive stud.
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Brodin is a better skater? Really? And thinking Brodin is a 40 point defence man when he is not producing any points in the SEL is really a stretch. He's good defensively but again he doesn't have the package of Dumba. Don't forget you are comparing an older prospect to a younger one also.
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Surely Sonnier, Button, Seidel, and Chuck Fletcher's opinion can't all be wrong of Dumba? I know the he creates draft lists for conversation cannot be a refute for 4 sharp hockey men?
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Agreed. At least JVR, Kulemin, and Reimer are primed for success. Well Kuley and Reimer the most...
Chuck, i constantly preach that a mobile, shutdown dman that can play a two way game is one of our biggest holes (beyond 1c and 1g). And we have nothing that can do that in the system. do you agree?
I cant see us going up against these offensively gifted teams (pitt, phi) and shutting down their plethora of scoring machines.
What do you think? and who do you think goes this season?
He was a 17/18 year old in the SEL.
He has been given a bigger role on Houston and has produced well. 30-40 points is a fair projection for him especially if he sees time with Suter in the future.
What is the package of Dumba? More offense, more hitting, yet less effective at everything else?
1 year is not that big of a difference, as I would still take Brodin of last year over Dumba of now.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1225341
I don't know about you, but Minnesota fans look to be more excited about Brodin, most think his game translates to the NHL better, he's more likely to reach his potential, etc.
Brodin's style of game is more important to your back end than that of Dumba's. It's simple. Brodin is one of the best skaters NOT in the NHL right now, and his vision and IQ are THE BEST in Minnesota's prospect pool from the back, and in terms of prospects, second only to Granlund.
So Dumba will be like Phaneuf, and most people seem to think so.
I will take the steady, smart, smooth skating defenseman any day.
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Everything you just described, plus his nice salary makes him a very valuable trade piece.
As A GM If I can't have Gards, then Gunner would be my next choice. Phanuef, Komi and LIles have bigger cap hits, and FRanson or Holzer just don't have the same type of value.
BUt any ways we need to get a good center.
Ryan O'reilly any one?
Would love to see Bowan get excited and try to spit out Rielly to O'Reilly, back to Rielly scores.
O'Rielly is currently sitting in Russia according to Yahoo due to a contract dispute.
I don't really picture him as a typical #1 but he is young and talented and might just light it up with Kessel and Lupul.
Anyone familiar with the contract dispute, and what COL is looking to add?
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You don't like Defencemen that hit? How about leadership? There is nothing wrong with offence from a defenceman in the modern game, that's how the game is evolving PMD, defence men that jump up into the attack, when have the above attributes for that type of d man, it is far easier to find safe d man.
I wouldn't want to pay the price the Avs would ask for him. I would rather wait out the season, see if our pick is in the MacKinnon/Barkov range, and/or see if Getzlaf hits the market.
That's just it, though. Brodin offers the PMD package, with steady, smart play in his own end. He may not be a shooter like Dumba, but he's a better passer and playmaker. The kid can run a powerplay. I'll take that over a riverboat gambler.
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