Post-Game Talk: #12 - 11/06/21 | RANGERS @ flames | 10:00 - MSG

[Oscar Lindberg]

If I zoom out and look long term, I’m not worried about Kakko and Laf being busts. I think they’re too good not to figure it out. But the reality is the team is doing them no favors right now.

Specifically Kakko, his style does not mesh with puck hogs Panarin and Strome. He needs to be playing with Kreider and Mika. The fact that Goodrow, who is inept offensively, is playing on that top line and getting PP time is absurd.

The other guy that I can’t wait to never see in a Rangers uniform is Strome. Team isn’t winning anything with him, he’s a loser with a me first attitude who’s as lazy as they come. I don’t care how much Panarin likes him, they need to figure out a plan to replace him and they need to figure it out now

 

[cheech70]

Suicide watch in effect....let me throw so reason into the mix....Calgary if the playoffs started today would be the favorite to reach the Cup finals. Sutter is a bad ass coach who gets his team to play like his demeanor. Seems like Kreider vs Buch worked out in our favor. 91 needs to stop hurting our players..I love GG and his honesty. Bring up a new backup goalie...Monday night vs Panthers will not be pretty and more calls for something drastic....We are in the height of the Rut( let the reader understand)...no need to panic

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If I zoom out and look long term, I’m not worried about Kakko and Laf being busts. I think they’re too good not to figure it out. But the reality is the team is doing them no favors right now.

Specifically Kakko, his style does not mesh with puck hogs Panarin and Strome. He needs to be playing with Kreider and Mika. The fact that Goodrow, who is inept offensively, is playing on that top line and getting PP time is absurd.

The other guy that I can’t wait to never see in a Rangers uniform is Strome. Team isn’t winning anything with him, he’s a loser with a me first attitude who’s as lazy as they come. I don’t care how much Panarin likes him, they need to figure out a plan to replace him and they need to figure it out now

The whole Panarin and Strome wont pass to kakko is a myth made up by someone here because after it was mentioned i started taking note, its totally not true. The problem with this board is someone says something and then it gets repeated until its fact, but it isn't, it's a lazy way to excuse Kakko for not being good enough.

 

[Synergy27]

Scary thought. What if Panarin continues to get worse?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The whole Panarin and Strome wont pass to kakko is a myth made up by someone here because after it was mentioned i started taking note, its totally not true. The problem with this board is someone says something and then it gets repeated until its fact, but it isn't, it's a lazy way to excuse Kakko for not being good enough.

I’m not even talking about that. Kakko clearly isn’t working with that line, it’s time to shake it up. He’s literally the only RW they have worth a damn, idk if he sucked and hasn’t deserved a “promotion” to the top line, Gallant needs to change things

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Here's something i never thought id say
........

If Chytil is out could we get Blackwell for a 5th or later round pick? He's not even playing in Seattle and maybe he slots in with panarin and Kakko joins Zib and Blais and Goodrow slot where they should be.

 

[mas0764]

Core is fine if the kids actually progressed and we filled holes on d instead of making more with Tinordi and Nemeth. Kravtsov should be here, now they can't even bring him here if they wanted to, its a massive fail for Drury

At the very least it needs another high end center.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I’m not even talking about that. Kakko clearly isn’t working with that line, it’s time to shake it up. He’s literally the only RW they have worth a damn, idk if he sucked and hasn’t deserved a “promotion” to the top line, Gallant needs to change things

Problem is that every year we make excuses for why he isnt playing well, last year it was he was on the 3rd line and not playing with Panarin, if he was with Panarin he'd get 80 points. Now its, he doesnt mesh with Panarin, i mean at some point it has to fall on his lap to be better.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

At the very least it needs another high end center.

It wouldn't hurt but i think the d and lack of RW depth is more of a pressing issue. We are bleeding scoring chances and playing bottom 6 players in the top six.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Here's something i never thought id say
........

If Chytil is out could we get Blackwell for a 5th or later round pick? He's not even playing in Seattle and maybe he slots in with panarin and Kakko joins Zib and Blais and Goodrow slot where they should be.

This is a joke post right?

Blackwell was a flash in the pan, he’s not fixing anything

 

[Good Intentions]

This is a joke post right?

Blackwell was a flash in the pan, he’s not fixing anything

Completely this. Oscar Lindberg would be a better option than Blackwell. His NHL window is already past, and he did well for us.

Seattle really botched the pick. Rooney is exactly the type of character bottom-6 guy you want. No one with a pulse would believe Blackwell would stick, let alone stay healthy for more than a month.

 

[egelband]

@avgard please advise.

 

[cwede]

maybe it is true, maybe it is all Georgiev's fault

 

[Chimpradamus]

Scary thought. What if Panarin continues to get worse?

Why should he? He has probably just caught a rut.

 

[Chytilmania]

@avgard please advise.

They played like perverts last night.

 

[Axel574]

Hope you're planning on going to bed soon. DST ends, meaning the night is only going to get longer.

The amount of night time in a 24 hour period has nothing to do with DST. DST just rearranges which hours of the day the darkness occurs.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

This is a joke post right?

Blackwell was a flash in the pan, he’s not fixing anything

Its not a joke, that line was actually good last year, its a cheap option and a player we can send to hartford when Chytil is back, bringing up McKegg is gonna do absolutely nothing but make us worse.

 

[Synergy27]

Why should he? He has probably just caught a rut.

Wrong side of 30. Unknown lingering effects from the Wilson incident.

Honestly looks like a shell of his former self to me.

 

[Chytilmania]

The whole Panarin and Strome wont pass to kakko is a myth made up by someone here because after it was mentioned i started taking note, its totally not true. The problem with this board is someone says something and then it gets repeated until its fact, but it isn't, it's a lazy way to excuse Kakko for not being good enough.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Pretty sure Panarin came out or it was reported he didn't want to play with Kakko.

Over the summer I mentioned when I was with someone in the organization (and players) he told me the top 3 most disliked guys on the team.
1. Gauthier
2. Georgiev
3. Kakko

Was very surprised to hear that. But hearing that and seeing how that line plays together on the ice, something is going on.

 

[savebyrichter94]

It wouldn't hurt but i think the d and lack of RW depth is more of a pressing issue. We are bleeding scoring chances and playing bottom 6 players in the top six.

I don’t disagree that those are issues that need to be addressed but the center position is a glaring hole on this team.

The centers they have all bring similar styles, suffer from the same deficiencies and play more like wingers than actual centers. They suck at face offs so you can’t count on them to help gain possession or to at least not lose the key ones so cleanly, they can’t be relied on to lock it down defensively or neutralize other teams top centers/players, they don’t get to the net consistently or win battles in the trenches and they don’t drive play at even strength.

We’re a perimeter team because we don’t control the middle of the ice and allow other teams to dictate style and pace at both ends of the rink.

 

[Stugots]

I would love the equivalent of Gary Keith and Ron covering the Rangers when we are dreadful. Those guys make stinkers bearable and hold both teams on the field accountable to the same standard.

MSG blowing smoke up our ass since 98. All the way back to Messier 2.0 guaranteeing the playoffs and signing every washed up bum to a Sunset contract

Sam and Joe are both so afraid of losing their jobs because they work for a psychopath that we can’t get any objectivity out of them ever.

Whenever the Rangers are losing it’s always the other team playing well and not the Rangers that are sucking. They’re scared to even mention this team’s poor play.

 

[rangerlp]

It is fortunate that we don't play Calgary, Edmonton and Florida every game...we would never win a game.

Right now you see the delta between the present elite teams and us. We're not a bad team...but for us to win a cup, the delta is huge. It's good to know this is where we stand and figure out what to do moving forward. At least the problems are visible...

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I don’t disagree that those are issues that need to be addressed but the center position is a glaring hole on this team.

The centers they have all bring similar styles, suffer from the same deficiencies and play more like wingers than actual centers. They suck at face offs so you can’t count on them to help gain possession or to at least not lose the key ones so cleanly, they can’t be relied on to lock it down defensively or neutralize other teams top centers/players, they don’t get to the net consistently or win battles in the trenches and they don’t drive play at even strength.

We’re a perimeter team because we don’t control the middle of the ice and allow other teams to dictate style and pace at both ends of the rink.

Our biggest problem is getting pinned in our own end for extended periods and its usually when our weakest d are on the ice, its no surprise Calgary put the Tkachuk line out against our 3rd pair every chance they got. Im all for a new center but i think its down the list of needs for this team.

 

[The Real JT]

Sam and Joe are both so afraid of losing their jobs because they work for a psychopath that we can’t get any objectivity out of them ever.

Whenever the Rangers are losing it’s always the other team playing well and not the Rangers that are sucking. They’re scared to even mention this team’s poor play.

Isles’ fan here in peace.

Sam and Joe are the biggest homers on the NY broadcasting scene. Say what you want about Butch Goring butchering the pronunciation of players’ names but he also regularly criticizes bad play.

As for the Rangers, everyone needs to take a deep breath. Shesterkin is a great goalie and that alone is the best asset any team can have.

Once one or two of your D prospects hit their stride, your team will be fine. If that doesn’t happen then you can always trade one of your underperforming young forwards (if that’s still happening) for an established Dman.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Our biggest problem is getting pinned in our own end for extended periods and its usually when our weakest d are on the ice, its no surprise Calgary put the Tkachuk line out against our 3rd pair every chance they got. Im all for a new center but i think its down the list of needs for this team.

Fair enough, I just think that maybe having centers more committed to the actual responsibilities of the position instead of being one dimensional point collectors would help a lot with gaining possession of the puck so we can get out of our zone and also sustain an attack at the other end of the ice.