107th Obsequious Banter Thread: Ugly Sweaters Edition

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Beef Invictus

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YES, this is the absolute definition of #1stworldproblems, but looks like my ankles, as it should be physiologically, aren't really happy w anything more than 30-50min really slow runs anymore. Being a run-acholic, this will be... an adjusment.

Running is the only exercise I know. Particularly sprints. But I run myself apart every time. My doctor has banned me from running. I've never found a replacement. And every time I defy orders I mangle myself.
 

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Running is the only exercise I know. Particularly sprints. But I run myself apart every time. My doctor has banned me from running. I've never found a replacement. And every time I defy orders I mangle myself.
Have you tried getting a car?

Third? I thought there was only one?
The pacific
 

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Looks like I have something new to binge.
Running is the only exercise I know. Particularly sprints. But I run myself apart every time. My doctor has banned me from running. I've never found a replacement. And every time I defy orders I mangle myself.
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Yeah, but the fuel efficiency upgrade for a ship that might have to operate the Pacific is very worthwhile; they'd also saved a ton of space by reducing boilers and removing an entire funnel and associated workings.
They would never remove boilers. They use only half of them for normal steaming. All for full power runs. They have two fire rooms and engine rooms to opperate if one gets knocked out. All systems cross connect between the fore and aft fire/ engine rooms for this reason.
 

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They would never remove boilers. They use only half of them for normal steaming. All for full power runs. They have two fire rooms and engine rooms to opperate if one gets knocked out. All systems cross connect between the fore and aft fire/ engine rooms for this reason.

They did! They reduced boiler count from 14 to 6 which freed up room for new centralized fire control deep in the citadel. More efficient systems, reheat, superheating innovations, etc.

Texas had quite the extensive refit. Really major changes. Hence my confusion at keeping the triple expansion. Her sister ship (New York) had turbines, so it isn't like it was a foreign installation for the class
 

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They did! They reduced boiler count from 14 to 6 which freed up room for new centralized fire control deep in the citadel. More efficient systems, reheat, superheating innovations, etc.
14 they must have been some dinky boilers back then lol. They use 8 on the carriers that I knew of 4 each fireroom. The tin can I was on had 4. 2 in each fire room.
 

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14 they must have been some dinky boilers back then lol. They use 8 on the carriers that I knew of 4 each fireroom. The tin can I was on had 4. 2 in each fire room.

They started as coal (maybe coal sprayed with oil?) and I think there is more of a limit on how much non-pulverized coal you can shove into a boiler for burn efficiency, so they were probably smaller, on top of the metallurgy involved being inferior to boot. The six boilers if I'm remembering correctly were way more effective than the ones they replaced, but were also bigger; but their sum size wasn't as great, and were efficient enough that an entire funnel system could be removed. So in the end, you get the same output for less units/space/weight

What class were you on? I'm just a bored dork reading about this stuff online where/when I can when the mood strikes me. I'm excited to encounter someone who lived it.
 
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They started as coal (maybe coal sprayed with oil?) and I think there is more of a limit on how much non-pulverized coal you can shove into a boiler for burn efficiency, so they were probably smaller, on top of the metallurgy involved being inferior to boot. The six boilers if I'm remembering correctly were way more effective than the ones they replaced, but were also bigger; but their sum size wasn't as great, and were efficient enough that an entire funnel system could be removed. So in the end, you get the same output for less units/space/weight

What class were you on? I'm just a bored dork reading about this stuff online where/when I can when the mood strikes me. I'm excited to encounter someone who lived it.
Yea I just looked. Both boilers only opperated at 295 lbs. Lol and the upgrade went from coal to oil. I was on a Farragut class frigate uss Dahlgren DLG 12 then later DDG 43. I was a boiler tech. We ran babcox and willcox 1200lb 975 degree superheated d type boilers.
 
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Beef Invictus

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Yea I just looked. Both boilers only opperated at 295 lbs. Lol and the upgrade went from coal to oil. I was on a Farragut class frigate uss Dahlgren DLG 12 then later DDG 43. I was a boiler tech. We ran babcox and willcox 1200lb 975 degree superheated a type boilers.

How hot did it get in the fire rooms?

Honestly kinda surprised both Texas boiler iterations ran at 295. Unless I'm completely whiffing on values (involves math, so...yes, I bet I am), boilers could do like 650-900 lbs by then.

Edit: Wait no the Texas refit was in 1925, and those ranges are for boilers from a decade later and that probably matters
 

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Running is the only exercise I know. Particularly sprints. But I run myself apart every time. My doctor has banned me from running. I've never found a replacement. And every time I defy orders I mangle myself.
Try swimming. You can do 50m sprints in a pool...

After about 2 years off of the gym, I recently started going back a few weeks ago. It's been awesome. My weight ballooned up after having my second kid in December of 2020 (her 2nd birthday today, actually!).

I'm pretty mangled myself... pins in my right wrist, awful ankle mobility due to multiple sprains and never property rehabbing them, jacked up knees. Most recently, I had an MRI on my right elbow due to lingering pain, limited mobility and overall weakness in my arm. A part of my elbow apparently broke and now there's a loose piece of bone about 1cm just floating around my elbow now. Doctor told me to just keep it in there for now and wait until it significantly effects me. He said their is a nerve that runs in your elbow that if accidently cut, will basically leave me with an unusable arm...so that's great.
 

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How hot did it get in the fire rooms?

Honestly kinda surprised both Texas boiler iterations ran at 295. Unless I'm completely whiffing on values (involves math, so...yes, I bet I am), boilers could do like 650-900 lbs by then.

Edit: Wait no the Texas refit was in 1925, and those ranges are for boilers from a decade later and that probably matters
Our fireroom used to reach 145f during full power runs. Both boilers with all 6 burners using overload spray nozzles. Yes the ww2 ships had 600lb boilers I believe and burned bunker c oil. Ours used no 2 fuel oil but had the heaters to use both if needed. We also burned jet fuel when refueling from a carrier at sea when the fuel ships weren,t available.
 

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Our fireroom used to reach 145f during full power runs. Both boilers with all 6 burners using overload spray nozzles. Yes the ww2 ships had 600lb boilers I believe and burned bunker c oil. Ours used no 2 fuel oil but had the heaters to use both if needed. We also burned jet fuel when refueling from a carrier at sea when the fuel ships weren,t available.

That's too hot. Over double my own maximum tolerable heat range.


That's some excellent redundancy design. Also says a lot about how far the tech came and how fast. Japanese boilers were eating themselves alive because they were forced to use lighter oils closer to fuel oil rather than bunker oil (also turned their ships into floating Molotov cocktails relative to US ships). Not long before that, top of the line was far lower pressure.

Was there any issue with mixing fuel oil and jet fuel or did the system in general not give a poo?
 
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