107th Obsequious Banter Thread: Ugly Sweaters Edition

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Rich Nixon

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The worst known music is The Eagles.

I will 1000% die on this hill.

One of peculiar characters I encountered in my 9 months of Zamboni driving over the last year was this 20 year-old clean-cut Zoomer who was maybe a little...OCD. College kid who LOVED to listen to music, carried around a nice Bluetooth speaker every where he went, and only listened to rock radio hits. I mean like, his entire iPhone was probably 5 days' worth of generic classic rock radio playlists. No other genre. Only the hits, had never listened to a full album in his life. Even quantified the quality of band by the number of "hits" they had--I describe literally any other type of band, he'd go "what hits did they have"; I go f***ing none I dunno; he'd look baffled.

Nothing from his generation, or mine, or any genre outside a 55 year old beer dad's comfort zone, this goddamn kid would just play all the songs you could permanently get your fill on from commercials, CVSs, and passing cars. Intentionally, on end, for 10 hour shifts.

His favorite of the bunch--the one with the most hits--was the Eagles. Spent most of my December and January weeknights freezing my dick off to "Desperado." Weirdest kid in the world. Also not a hockey guy. Got the job in high school because he was dating a figure skater at the arena. She dumped him but he kept the job. Big baseball dude.
 
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Striiker

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One of peculiar characters I encountered in my 9 months of Zamboni driving over the last year was this 20 year-old clean-cut Zoomer who was maybe a little...OCD college kid who LOVED to listen to music, carried around a nice Bluetooth speaker every where he went, and only listened to rock radio hits. I mean like, his entire iPhone was probably 5 days' worth of generic classic rock radio playlists. No other genre. Only the hits, had never listened to a full album in his life. Even quantified the quality of band by the number of "hits" they had--I describe literally any other type of band, he'd go "what hits did they have"; I go f***ing none I dunno; he'd look baffled.

Nothing from his generation, or mine, or any genre outside a 55 year old beer dad's comfort zone, this goddamn Zoomer would just play all the songs you could permanently get your fill on from commercials, CVSs, and passing cars. Intentionally, on end, for 10 hour shifts.

His favorite of the bunch--the one with the most hits--was the Eagles. Spent most of my December and January weeknights freezing my dick off to "Desperado." Weirdest kid in the world. Also not a hockey guy. Got the job in high school because he was dating a figure skater at the arena. She dumped him but he kept the job. Big baseball dude.
And you didn’t strangle this individual?
 

Rich Nixon

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And you didn’t strangle this individual?

Three rinks, two semi-functional Zambones, packed high school schedule...and that little old-time-rock-and-roll f***er was the best driver on the goddamn force. Straightest lines you've ever seen on a 40-year-old Zamboni 500 with bald tires and a zombie transmission.
 

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Just stumbling into this monkey knife fight of a discussion. Don't let the handle fool you, I dig a hell of a lot of music besides Prog. From the previous several pages:

Yes, Groove IS in the heart.

The Joshua Tree is amazing - as long as you skip With or Without You, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, and Where the Streets Have No Name. They're like vanilla ice cream with the vanilla taken out. Start with Red Hill Mining Town and go from there, outside of those three crotch rot songs. (See also The Police's "Synchronicity" without "Every Breath You Take"). "Wire," from The Unforgettable Fire stands above them all.

The cocaine years of Aerosmith are still digestible, especially "Draw the Line," and "Back In the Saddle." When it stopped snowing for the band, I was already on my way out the door.

My first concert was AC/DC at The Spectrum in 1981, so they will always hold a special place in my heart. That being said, every song of theirs after that is interchangeable.

Beyonce is ass. Always has been and always will be. All divas pretty much are ass, and have been throughout the age of popular music. Very few exceptions, and those are for individual songs, not their entire catalog.

@ 1995 is when good popular music died. Yes, there is still some great music being made (Foxygen, Tame Impala, Steven Wilson, to name three), but their output is being overly diluted anymore by the musical tastes of pre-teen girls. Top 40 has been shit ever since 1995.

Bands that do not have a prominent bass guitar (yes - bass GUITAR, not just BASS) high in the mix are not worth my time. They also tend to have whiny singers: The Goo Goo Dolls, Barenaked Ladies, Weezer, Green Day, Rob Thomas Three Doors Down, etc. You can have them.

Walls of screeching guitars, or wanking off to play as fast and loud as possible is breathtakingly boring.

I don't give a shit about lyrics, rhyming, or any of that. I don't want or need tunes to awaken me to social conditions. I have myriad other ways to get that information (which I do). Singing/rapping about how tough someone thinks they are, their rough upbringing, how much bling and swag they have, or how many bitches they be bangin' interests me about as much as a clogged toilet. Melody is almost an anachronism anymore, replaced with redundant beats.

Just because a singer can belt out a Herculean scream doesn't mean I want to hear it in every one of his/her songs.

"Firework," by Katy Perry, which seems to play every day in every store, will eventually result in me being jailed for giving into my homicidal rage.

Not everyone likes The Beatles. I do. Sue me.

Mike Patton is a musical genius.

The MUSIC itself is several trillion times more important than any other part of a song - and it better be original and non-repetitive. Lyrics are a distant second. A far distant second. Maybe third, after the singer's voice.

Bach was the GOAT.

White guys culturally appropriating black performers' gesticulations in videos and performances are pretty much mere punchlines and should never be taken seriously ("Yo, yo, yo," hand signals, etc.).

Quicksilver Messenger Service's "Fresh Air" is great jump-back song, but after hearing it, you're good for another year. Same with Sugarloaf's "Green Eyed Lady."

Generic 70s rock playlists that feature pretty much just bands like Foghat, The Guess Who, and the aforementioned Aerosmith will put me in a coma.

Performers who feel they need to have an entire dance company up on stage with them...hard pass.

The real reason I cannot stand rap and hip-hop is the fact the rise of those styles seems to have coincided with the death of Funk - and that I will never forgive.

Name your favorite singer. I submit Jeff Buckley. Your argument is invalid.

"Different" does not mean better - but it has a much greater chance of being better.

More performers from the decade of the 1960s, (especially) the 1970s, and even some in the 1980s, are evergreen, and will be just as relevant, musically, for the foreseeable future, than the other decades. The 1990s? Perhaps the early 1990s. Since then? Almost completely void of such performers. I blame the goldfish-level attention span of music consumers anymore for the previous sentence.

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club is one of the best rock bands no one has heard of.

I love watching reaction videos where younger folks (mostly folks of color) listen to late-1960s-thru-early 1980s music and lose their minds, usually attacking today's music for being so unoriginal in the process. Proudly, they are fanatical about Prog Rock ("Why didn't anyone tell us about this??" is a common refrain).

When it comes to popular black singers today, I hear attempts at emotion, but I hear no trace of SOUL. Where is the new Bill Withers, Etta James, Marvin? C'mon, man...

Auto-tune is the musical equivalent of microwaving leftover french fries.

Overly-emotive, overly-sensitive "girls with guitars," and their ASMR-level whisper-voices are metal nails on a chalkboard to me - especially when they sing covers which inevitably appear on nostalgic or dramatic television commercials and leave me wondering which committee of f*ckheads gave this the green light.

Speaking of covers - 99% of them are stupendously inferior to the original. They're like reboots of classic movies and not fit to stand in the shadow of the original.

Dave Matthews. No.

I only know of Dua Lipa from that Hot Ones episode. I am not familiar with her music, but I'd tap the hell out of that ass...and probably end up with a heart attack.

tl/dr:

A. Dua Lipa is bangable.
B. "OK, Boomer" (even though I'm not a Boomer)
C. Blocked
 
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GapToothedWonder

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Yep. 98-99 was a perfect storm of shit. The effects of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 finally settled into place while TRL, Boy Bands, Butt Rock, and Britney Spears emerged. Dark days. I turned to underground Hip-Hop like Common, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, etc. to get by.
I'm livid that you didn't end this

"Talib Kweli, just to get by"

Also it's weird how little rap music came up during the whole conversation of what music will be remembered from the 2000s. Rap became the dominate genre during that era (blending with and supplanting pop music), and will be what the 2000s and the 2010s are remembered for. I'm guessing the artists that will stand the test of time the most from that era will be Kanye. You can dislike him if you want, but I don't think you can argue he had a massive impact on music during that era, and over time his current crazy behavior will be forgotten about.
 
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Beef Invictus

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JojoTheWhale

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I'm livid that you didn't end this

"Talib Kweli, just to get by"

Also it's weird how little rap music came up during the whole conversation of what music will be remembered from the 2000s. Rap became the dominate genre during that era (blending with and supplanting pop music), and will be what the 2000s and the 2010s are remembered for. I'm guessing the artists that will stand the test of time the most from that era will be Kanye. You can dislike him if you want, but I don't think you can argue he had a massive impact on music during that era, and over time his current crazy behavior will be forgotten about.

I really wonder how much his stuff will endure, even MBDTF. It's always felt more of its time to me than something like To Pimp A Butterfly or Blonde.
 

ajgoal

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Also, not that we are on this topic, but Hurt by Johnny Cash is the best cover ever


I would tell you that your music takes are even worse than your food takes. I wouldn’t have thought such a thing possible.

You know that Jimi Hendrix’s ”All Along the Watchtower” is a cover, right?

So is "House of the Rising Sun" by The Animals.

One of my personal favorite covers is "All about that Bass" by Kate Davis.
 
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