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GDT: #10 | Boston Bruins vs Pittsburgh Penguins | 11/1/22 8:00 PM EST | For Animal Supremacy

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Empoleon8771 said:
Nah, definitely not with Poehling. He's been good overall.

Archibald has been decent and McGinn has been invisible, but Poehling has been good.
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Poehling's 5v5 xg is the lowest on the team (only Kapanen is lower) and our pk has been crap.

I haven't *hated* Poehling's play, but I dunno that he's brought all that much either. Pretty much all we want out of him is to not get totally caved 5v5 and to be a good pker and neither of those two things are happening.
 
Darren McCord said:
Archibald is a joke too. He isnt helping anyone with his 6 pim in the last 2 games. scratch them both
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Archibald is still helping the team more than McGinn is right now.

McGinn is downright awful.

PensandCaps said:
Not Poehling, Kap. Aside from garbage time points, he hasn't been good at anything.
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My mistake, thought you meant the 3 guys on the 4th line.
 
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CascadiaPenguin said:
This does not not say what you think it says. In terms of his recovery, Elliotte clearly says, twice "all the credit to Marchand". You are manufacturing motive, while making unsubstantiated indictments. Friedman's use of the term "dishonest" when generically describing how sports teams handle injury timeframes and disclosure was a poor choice of words and does NOT in any way suggest nefarious intent by the Bruins as you imply. He was merely implying standard practice. Surgeries result in PROJECTED TIMEFRAMES of absence. Marchand's surgery was 5/17. At that point in time the procedure was described to the public and a 6 month rehab timeframe was indicated. If you want to make a claim of whatever the your claiming, then that would be the time to do so. We should have heard outcry about how overly conservative that timeframe was. But we didn't, because that point is ridiculous. NO ONE KNOWS. Of course estimates will be conservative.

Bruin's media day was October 10th.

Here's what Marchand said then:

"Yeah, as long as there are no setbacks or anything. I don't want to be definitive in what the timetable is, I'm just trying to see how I feel. I haven't dealt with anything like this before where I feel really good but I still have to be careful with where I'm at. My surgeries I've done before, once I feel good I can go. It's not quite like that with this one, so I got to be careful."

This is not enjoyable, and I'm not going to waste anymore time trying to change your mind, while I remain confident in my position. I can't believe I'm defending the little ball of hate. Next week I will present my Haiku, describing the grace and thoughtfulness of Tom Wilson.
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Didn't misunderstand shit.

Never said anything disparaging about Marchand. He's just the soldier following orders here. It was the medical staff that was dishonest. And yes, we did hear a big reaction to his early return, since everyone was expecting him 5 weeks later.
There's a difference between being conservative and outright deceiving people, keeping a target date internal for months... a date that slashes off a month of recovery. This is not a common practice in the league. Maybe that will become a trend in the future, but it hasn't been historically.

This should have been "late October to early December", or at least "5-6 months".

Well if you're done talking about it then there's no point for me to clarify/add anything else.
 
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Pancakes said:
Poehling's 5v5 xg is the lowest on the team (only Kapanen is lower) and our pk has been crap.

I haven't *hated* Poehling's play, but I dunno that he's brought all that much either. Pretty much all we want out of him is to not get totally caved 5v5 and to be a good pker and neither of those two things are happening.
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Actually watch the games instead of just looking on NST. Poehling has been noticeable and effective in his role.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
Archibald is still helping the team more than McGinn is right now.

McGinn is downright awful.



My mistake, thought you meant the 3 guys on the 4th line.
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Archibald is doing nothing to help the team except get PK practice. Please tell me how he is helping them. Like I said both can sit but Archibald has been awful too.
 
Darren McCord said:
Archibald is doing nothing to help the team except get PK practice. Please tell me how he is helping them. Like I said both can sit but Archibald has been awful too.
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Because Archibald actually somehow presses play with his speed and brings physicality to the 4th line. He's shooting the puck a lot (for the ice time he's getting), throwing hits and being an agitator. What's the problem there?

Whining about him right now is just grinding an ax. Him taking 3 penalties in 2 games doesn't magically mean he sucks after a strong start.
 
Empoleon8771 said:
Actually watch the games instead of just looking on NST. Poehling has been noticeable and effective in his role.
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Lol. I watch every game as you know considering I post in every PGT. Don't resort to that garbage, you're a better poster than that.

My opinions are and always have been backed up by both my eyes and analytics. The two don't always agree. The analytics don't love Heinen so far this year which I disagree with.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Because Archibald actually somehow presses play with his speed and brings physicality to the 4th line.

Whining about him right now is just grinding an ax. Him taking 3 penalties in 2 games doesn't magically mean he sucks.
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they were down 3 - 1 in the canucks game with 4 min left and he got a dumb penalty to seal the game for the canucks. That is terrible. Penalties are one thing but you cant take them at the end of the game like that.

Spare me the physicality. He hasnt done anything to make this team feel intimating. Id rather have vanilla ZAR at least making the pk better and playing defense.
 
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Darren McCord said:
they were down 3 - 1 in the canucks game with 4 min left and he got a dumb penalty to seal the game for the canucks. That is terrible. Penalties are one thing but you cant take them at the end of the game like that.

Spare me the physicality. He hasnt done anything to make this team feel intimating. Id rather have vanilla ZAR at least making the pk better and playing defense.
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Yeah, I don't get the obsession with defending Archibald some Penguins fans feel.

He's a borderline NHLer who stinks.
 
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Darren McCord said:
they were down 3 - 1 in the canucks game with 4 min left and he got a dumb penalty to seal the game for the canucks. That is terrible. Penalties are one thing but you cant take them at the end of the game like that.

Spare me the physicality. He hasnt done anything to make this team feel intimating. Id rather have vanilla ZAR at least making the pk better and playing defense.
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Lmao go look at how ZAR is doing in Toronto this year. He has produced nothing, is doing nothing and is getting slaughtered analytically.

Complaining about Archibald is just grinding an ax and pushing an agenda that has existed since the off-season. He's doing exactly what he should be doing for his role and what he's paid.
 
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