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tiburon12

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I only have 2 v v srs questions
1) what are the odds of going blind. This is my main issue with it. I can't wrap my head around someone slicing my eyeballs and me not coming out of it blind
2) what's the expiration date on the new eyes. Like 10 years?

1) The clinic i went to, which is one of the top in the country, had 98.7% success rating for what they deemed to be medium-range eyes. My prescription before LASIK was -5.50 + -1.25 for astigmatism, for a total of -6.75. What they deemed as success was stable 20/40 vision after surgery. So within that 1.3% non-success rate includes patients who needed enhancements and those who i guess went blind(?) but they didnt say. I felt very confident.

2) No Flanders situation here:laugh:. They did say though that everyone by age 40 or so needs reading glasses. But in terms of the surgery's effects wearing off, that's not going to happen.

I've always had Lasik on the back of my mind, but been thinking about it more given that I have more disposable income now. Oddly enough, I was even researching some companies a few days before tiburon even brought it up here.

Anyone have recommendations in the Bay Area? My employer technically partners with one, but given that it's not covered regardless, I might as well find my own if there are better ones out there. The only one I know is from radio commercials of Scott Hyver ("v" for vision!"). :laugh:
There are many different types of LASIK (PRK, Femto, RELEX, LASEK), and if I understand correctly, they all achieve the same results but the recovery times vary. Mine was "bladeless" so the corneal flap healed super quick
 
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Carving someone's eyeball with a laser beam so they can see better as outpatient surgery. That's pretty high up on the ol' Civilization tech tree.

Mind boggling shit, really. But, the sharper the blade the quicker the cut heals. So, lasers are to eyeballs as spoons are to badguys.
What's sharper than a buncha concentrated photons?

It kinda makes me more in awe it could be accomplished with a blade, kinda.
You think a mohel has got a tough gig... I'd rather lose my nads than my eyeballs. Were I ever in a situation where I would have to make sure a diabolical decision.

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I really didn't expect it to be a thing but I guess I'm not shocked.
I looked for twofers (typed both out w/o the typo in quotes together) near me but only eye options came back. Lotsa closed store fronts on Geary and Clement as well... These LASIK docs need to up their game and expand their market.
 
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tiburon12

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Carving someone's eyeball with a laser beam so they can see better as outpatient surgery. That's pretty high up on the ol' Civilization tech tree.

Mind boggling shit, really. But, the sharper the blade the quicker the cut heals. So, lasers are to eyeballs as spoons are to badguys.
What's sharper than a buncha concentrated photons?

It kinda makes me more in awe it could be accomplished with a blade, kinda.
You think a mohel has got a tough gig... I'd rather lose my nads than my eyeballs. Were I ever in a situation where I would have to make sure a diabolical decision.


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I really didn't expect it to be a thing but I guess I'm not shocked.
I looked for twofers (typed both out w/o the typo in quotes together) near me but only eye options came back. Lotsa closed store fronts on Geary and Clement as well... These LASIK docs need to up their game and expand their market.
Laser > Blade. You can now be a geek on the street with a laser instead of needing to be handy with the steel
 
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A friend of mine is the worst video game player and it's so grating. It's not about his skills, it's about how he buys so many games and only plays like 15% of each one before giving up, or worse getting 75% through and leaving it for later.

I thought the worst was when he, after years of being excited for Tears of the Kingdom, decided to put it down before finishing the game, but now he's giving up on RDR2 in Chapter 2.

It's boggling my mind!
 
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A friend of mine is the worst video game player and it's so grating. It's not about his skills, it's about how he buys so many games and only plays like 15% of each one before giving up, or worse getting 75% through and leaving it for later.

I thought the worst was when he, after years of being excited for Tears of the Kingdom, decided to put it down before finishing the game, but now he's giving up on RDR2 in Chapter 2.

It's boggling my mind!
Really cant understand people like that. Maybe I am just too singularily focused but when I start something I do everything possible to finish it
 
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A friend of mine is the worst video game player and it's so grating. It's not about his skills, it's about how he buys so many games and only plays like 15% of each one before giving up, or worse getting 75% through and leaving it for later.

I thought the worst was when he, after years of being excited for Tears of the Kingdom, decided to put it down before finishing the game, but now he's giving up on RDR2 in Chapter 2.

It's boggling my mind!
I'm this guy. There's been a couple games where I stopped right before the final boss to recharge emotionally or whatever, only to come back to it a year later and finish the last hour of the game. I do buy less games nowadays though but still planning on finishing my Yakuza/Judgment series playthrough. I'm at Yakuza 5 and I'm stil looking at ~300hrs to go through.
 
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I'm this guy. There's been a couple games where I stopped right before the final boss to recharge emotionally or whatever, only to come back to it a year later and finish the last hour of the game. I do buy less games nowadays though but still planning on finishing my Yakuza/Judgment series playthrough. I'm at Yakuza 5 and I'm stil looking at ~300hrs to go through.
I did that with "Persona 5". Played the heck out of it for a few weeks, got to the end and put it down for months. Finished it later.

But, I'd heard that the end sequence was hella long (confirmed) so I wanted to be ready to watch the whole thing...
 

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Sometimes I find that I drag my feet on finishing games I really enjoy because I don't want it to end, but most of the time I will eventually come back and finish.

My biggest problem isn't buying games and never finishing. It's buying games when they're on sale and never actually playing them. I've barely bought anything over the last couple of years because I have a massive backlog that's like a decade+ old that I'm trying to work through. Like I'm trying to go through every Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda game that I'd never finished before and I'm only up to II, VII, and Twilight Princess respectively.

My biggest weakness is sales. I have like the last 3 Assassin's Creed games, Personas 4 and 5, RDR 2, the Kingdom Hearts games, the last 2 generations of Pokemon games, and a bunch of other stuff that I've amassed over the years and just can't find the time to get to because my free time ends up going towards other projects or just being too tired to focus on a game for several hours at a time like it deserves.
 

tiburon12

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Really cant understand people like that. Maybe I am just too singularily focused but when I start something I do everything possible to finish it
Same. It takes a while for me to decide on my next game, and when i do decide i make sure to finish it as close to 100% as possible and squeeze everything out of it I can.
Sometimes I find that I drag my feet on finishing games I really enjoy because I don't want it to end, but most of the time I will eventually come back and finish.

My biggest problem isn't buying games and never finishing. It's buying games when they're on sale and never actually playing them. I've barely bought anything over the last couple of years because I have a massive backlog that's like a decade+ old that I'm trying to work through. Like I'm trying to go through every Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda game that I'd never finished before and I'm only up to II, VII, and Twilight Princess respectively.

My biggest weakness is sales. I have like the last 3 Assassin's Creed games, Personas 4 and 5, RDR 2, the Kingdom Hearts games, the last 2 generations of Pokemon games, and a bunch of other stuff that I've amassed over the years and just can't find the time to get to because my free time ends up going towards other projects or just being too tired to focus on a game for several hours at a time like it deserves.
Skip the Pokemon games. They suck. Legends Arceus was fun tho.
 
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OCTOBER RELEASE: Thrills & Chills for the Halloween Season

A few days later than intended, but here's the October batch of curated radio programs

For the uninitiated, here is a spoiler-tagged version of the original preamble from previous iterations of this project, including instructions on how to download the files. If you're not new then you can safely skip all of this.:

HOW TO GET/USE THE FILES (& INFO ABOUT THEM)
Each month my available files will be placed in a google drive folder called Nem's OTR Collection, located here:


(I believe spoiler tags are missed by search engines and webcrawlers, so I'm hoping that this might help keep the link a little more focused to the direct audience here on HF)

In it you will find folders corresponding to each show I have made available, all formatted as "[OTR] <name of show> <years of production>"

The name structure is just so that when I have the folders in my content library they are grouped by type and easier to find. You're free to rename them however you want once downloaded.

If you want to download a whole show in one go, at the end of the subfolder name (exact positioning varies based on what view you're in, folder or list) is a little icon of 3 vertical dots. Click it and from there you should be able to select a "download" option.

View attachment 701204

I believe google drive portions out folder downloads in chunks no bigger than 2GB at a time, zips them up into a compressed folder and then downloads that to wherever your browser downloads go on your computer (the dedicated download folder or you have to specify or whatever. I don't know, I'm not you :P) It will take a few seconds to compress the content into the requisite files and begin the download and then *boom* you've got the stuff on your computer. Open the compressed download files with Windows' innate ability to read zip files or with a program like WinZip or WinRAR if you have it and extract it and you will have a folder full of MP3 audio files of all the episodes that were available.

If you just want individual episodes or a few at a time, double-click the folder to open it up to its contents and from there you can pick and choose what to download, taking just a selection of episodes at a time.

From there it's just a matter of loading them into the player of your choice. You can copy them onto a device like your phone or an iPod/MP3 player, simply locate them in an audio player program/app like iTunes or Winamp, link them into your digital assistant/home audio system if it supports that (I don't have one, I don't know) or whatever you want.

If you don't have a player on your computer I recommend Winamp. It's free and historically has been pretty good for this sort of stuff.


If you're having any issues with making any of this work, let me know and I'll do my best to help

THIS MONTH'S THEME/SELECTION & SHOWS

As always the Google Drive is located here:


It's October which means it's time for some Halloween thrills and chills with a selection of horror, mystery, and suspense themed series.

It's easy to think back to the idea of classic radio and believe that detective show, musical variety acts, and comedy legends dominated the airwaves. And collectively, sure they did. But there are estimates that over 10% of shows on the air in the 1930s and 40s were from the scarier side of the ledger. For a single genre of shows that's a massive footprint.

So to celebrate that and get into the spirit of the season, this month I'm bringing to you a collective of horror, mystery, and suspense highlights of the era. This is by no means a complete library of the genre, but it's enough to keep you up at night for the next 30 days and beyond.

Included this month are the following series:


1) The surviving run of what is commonly believed to be the original horror anthology series on the radio: The Witch's Tale (1931-38). This collection mostly spans from 1934 onward as the original producer of the series unfortuantely destroyed the masters for many episodes for unknown reasons in 1961. Also of intrigue is that in 1935 the original narrator, a 79-year-old British stage actress, died and was replaced by a new actress who was only 13 years old when she began playing "Old Nancy" the titular witch.

This collection contains 86 episodes including some incomplete copies and others that are sourced from an adaptation produced for Australian radio around the same time as the original.

2) Lights Out! (1934-47), Arguably the backbone of early radio horror and suspense and responsible for launching the writing careers of radio horror's two heavyweights: Wyllis Cooper and Arch Oboler. The show began in 1934 under the eye of Cooper, who penned many of the early scripts and was known to favor dark and grisly tales full of (aural) gore and depravity (unfortunately recordins of most of these early episodes have not survived). When the series went national the grotesque edge was toned down and eventually Cooper departed in 1936 while giving way to the younger and more experimental Arch Oboler to steward the show. His bent tended towards slightly more fantastic tales while mixing in elements of social and political commentary of the day and proved just as, if not more popular. Years later Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling would cite Oboler as a major influence on him, including his adaptation of Oboler's drafting technique of dictating scripts into a recording device and having a stenographer type them up afterwards in order to save him time in the writing process (understandable given the demand for his services).

Included in this collection are 68 episodes (including some incomplete copies).

3) The Shadow (1937-54) The iconic proto-superhero sticks around for another month, expanding on the two Orson Welles seasons with 5 additional years of content. This adds to the collection the complete surviving run of Welles' successor in the role of Lamont Cranston/The Shadow: Bill Johnstone, along with two new Margot Lane actresses in British radio host and actress Marjorie Anderson and then 3 seasons of prolific character actress Jeanette Nolan. As a result you now have available to you over 150 episodes covering 1937 through 1943.

While the series eventually drifts from its more unsetting and supernatural origins into tales about mobsters and spycraft, in these early years there were still enough chilling mysteries to fill some dark and stormy nights.

4) Suspense (1940-1962): One of the most well known and fondly remembered mystery and (obviously) suspense shows of its era, Suspense attracted significant sponsors, high budgets, and flashy star power while delivering a broad array of story types designed to thrill and startle its vast audiences. The longest running series in this collection by a significant margin, and one of the longest runners on radio in general, over 900 of the series' episodes remain preserved to this day. While I can't offer the complete series here because of the storage requirements, I have included the 90 surviving episodes from the first 100 aired, spanning the first four years of the series' life.

In some ways Suspense is emblematic of the so-called Golden Age of Radio as a whole as it ran from the early 40s when the medium was at its peak until September 30, 1962 when the series signed off with its final episode. That day, which also saw the final episode of similarly long-running program Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar, is often cited as the day that radio's run as a premiere form entertainment wrapped up and the place in public consciousness was ceded entirely to television.

5) Arch Oboler's Plays (1939-40, 1945, and 1964): Following his success with Lights Out, Arch Oboler would later be given a series with his own name on the marquee and creative oversight to tell the tales he wanted. Though Oboler was undoubtedly popular as an author, his series ran for just 1 year before it would later be revived for another year in 1945 and then have recordings and scripts of old episodes recycled in 1964 for a local station.

Included in this collection is 56 episodes, 43 from the first two 1940s runs and all 13 from the 1964 re-airings.

6) Dark Fantasy (1941-42) Originally a locally-aired show on WKY Oklahoma City, this suspense anthology garnered enough praise and attention to earn national syndication across NBC Red's network of stations. All 27 surviving episodes are present here.


7) The Diary of Fate (1947-48) a suspense anthology in which the hands of fate themselves document and oversee ne'er-do-wells reaping what they sow. Somewhat less widely known it was still well regarded for the tension in the series' at times grisly tales of karmic retribution. All 24 surviving episodes have been included in this collection.


8) Quiet, Please (1947-49) Wyllis Cooper's return to horror and mystery anthology with this heralded creepshow that ran for 2 years at the peak of the golden age of radio an was lauded as one of the best examples of the genre and of the medium of radio drama in general. 89 episodes of its estimated 106 episode run have been preserved and are available for download.

Also I'm keeping Star Wars in the archive for another month as an attention-grabber/hook. And since it is the most famous radio broadcast in history and a halloween staple, Orson Welles' War of the Worlds broadcast from his Mercury Theatre days is also still present.

I don't have YT embedded previews here yet because I believe I'm limited on how many videos I'm allowed to embed per post and I haven't sorted out the ones I want to spotlight most significantly.
 
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OCTOBER RELEASE: Thrills & Chills for the Halloween Season

A few days later than intended, but here's the October batch of curated radio programs

For the uninitiated, here is a spoiler-tagged version of the original preamble from previous iterations of this project, including instructions on how to download the files. If you're not new then you can safely skip all of this.:

HOW TO GET/USE THE FILES (& INFO ABOUT THEM)
Each month my available files will be placed in a google drive folder called Nem's OTR Collection, located here:


(I believe spoiler tags are missed by search engines and webcrawlers, so I'm hoping that this might help keep the link a little more focused to the direct audience here on HF)

In it you will find folders corresponding to each show I have made available, all formatted as "[OTR] <name of show> <years of production>"

The name structure is just so that when I have the folders in my content library they are grouped by type and easier to find. You're free to rename them however you want once downloaded.

If you want to download a whole show in one go, at the end of the subfolder name (exact positioning varies based on what view you're in, folder or list) is a little icon of 3 vertical dots. Click it and from there you should be able to select a "download" option.

View attachment 701204

I believe google drive portions out folder downloads in chunks no bigger than 2GB at a time, zips them up into a compressed folder and then downloads that to wherever your browser downloads go on your computer (the dedicated download folder or you have to specify or whatever. I don't know, I'm not you :P) It will take a few seconds to compress the content into the requisite files and begin the download and then *boom* you've got the stuff on your computer. Open the compressed download files with Windows' innate ability to read zip files or with a program like WinZip or WinRAR if you have it and extract it and you will have a folder full of MP3 audio files of all the episodes that were available.

If you just want individual episodes or a few at a time, double-click the folder to open it up to its contents and from there you can pick and choose what to download, taking just a selection of episodes at a time.

From there it's just a matter of loading them into the player of your choice. You can copy them onto a device like your phone or an iPod/MP3 player, simply locate them in an audio player program/app like iTunes or Winamp, link them into your digital assistant/home audio system if it supports that (I don't have one, I don't know) or whatever you want.

If you don't have a player on your computer I recommend Winamp. It's free and historically has been pretty good for this sort of stuff.


If you're having any issues with making any of this work, let me know and I'll do my best to help

THIS MONTH'S THEME/SELECTION & SHOWS

As always the Google Drive is located here:


It's October which means it's time for some Halloween thrills and chills with a selection of horror, mystery, and suspense themed series.

It's easy to think back to the idea of classic radio and believe that detective show, musical variety acts, and comedy legends dominated the airwaves. And collectively, sure they did. But there are estimates that over 10% of shows on the air in the 1930s and 40s were from the scarier side of the ledger. For a single genre of shows that's a massive footprint.

So to celebrate that and get into the spirit of the season, this month I'm bringing to you a collective of horror, mystery, and suspense highlights of the era. This is by no means a complete library of the genre, but it's enough to keep you up at night for the next 30 days and beyond.

Included this month are the following series:


1) The surviving run of what is commonly believed to be the original horror anthology series on the radio: The Witch's Tale (1931-38). This collection mostly spans from 1934 onward as the original producer of the series unfortuantely destroyed the masters for many episodes for unknown reasons in 1961. Also of intrigue is that in 1935 the original narrator, a 79-year-old British stage actress, died and was replaced by a new actress who was only 13 years old when she began playing "Old Nancy" the titular witch.

This collection contains 86 episodes including some incomplete copies and others that are sourced from an adaptation produced for Australian radio around the same time as the original.

2) Lights Out! (1934-47), Arguably the backbone of early radio horror and suspense and responsible for launching the writing careers of radio horror's two heavyweights: Wyllis Cooper and Arch Oboler. The show began in 1934 under the eye of Cooper, who penned many of the early scripts and was known to favor dark and grisly tales full of (aural) gore and depravity (unfortunately recordins of most of these early episodes have not survived). When the series went national the grotesque edge was toned down and eventually Cooper departed in 1936 while giving way to the younger and more experimental Arch Oboler to steward the show. His bent tended towards slightly more fantastic tales while mixing in elements of social and political commentary of the day and proved just as, if not more popular. Years later Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling would cite Oboler as a major influence on him, including his adaptation of Oboler's drafting technique of dictating scripts into a recording device and having a stenographer type them up afterwards in order to save him time in the writing process (understandable given the demand for his services).

Included in this collection are 68 episodes (including some incomplete copies).

3) The Shadow (1937-54) The iconic proto-superhero sticks around for another month, expanding on the two Orson Welles seasons with 5 additional years of content. This adds to the collection the complete surviving run of Welles' successor in the role of Lamont Cranston/The Shadow: Bill Johnstone, along with two new Margot Lane actresses in British radio host and actress Marjorie Anderson and then 3 seasons of prolific character actress Jeanette Nolan. As a result you now have available to you over 150 episodes covering 1937 through 1943.

While the series eventually drifts from its more unsetting and supernatural origins into tales about mobsters and spycraft, in these early years there were still enough chilling mysteries to fill some dark and stormy nights.

4) Suspense (1940-1962): One of the most well known and fondly remembered mystery and (obviously) suspense shows of its era, Suspense attracted significant sponsors, high budgets, and flashy star power while delivering a broad array of story types designed to thrill and startle its vast audiences. The longest running series in this collection by a significant margin, and one of the longest runners on radio in general, over 900 of the series' episodes remain preserved to this day. While I can't offer the complete series here because of the storage requirements, I have included the 90 surviving episodes from the first 100 aired, spanning the first four years of the series' life.

In some ways Suspense is emblematic of the so-called Golden Age of Radio as a whole as it ran from the early 40s when the medium was at its peak until September 30, 1962 when the series signed off with its final episode. That day, which also saw the final episode of similarly long-running program Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar, is often cited as the day that radio's run as a premiere form entertainment wrapped up and the place in public consciousness was ceded entirely to television.

5) Arch Oboler's Plays (1939-40, 1945, and 1964): Following his success with Lights Out, Arch Oboler would later be given a series with his own name on the marquee and creative oversight to tell the tales he wanted. Though Oboler was undoubtedly popular as an author, his series ran for just 1 year before it would later be revived for another year in 1945 and then have recordings and scripts of old episodes recycled in 1964 for a local station.

Included in this collection is 56 episodes, 43 from the first two 1940s runs and all 13 from the 1964 re-airings.

6) Dark Fantasy (1941-42) Originally a locally-aired show on WKY Oklahoma City, this suspense anthology garnered enough praise and attention to earn national syndication across NBC Red's network of stations. All 27 surviving episodes are present here.


7) The Diary of Fate (1947-48) a suspense anthology in which the hands of fate themselves document and oversee ne'er-do-wells reaping what they sow. Somewhat less widely known it was still well regarded for the tension in the series' at times grisly tales of karmic retribution. All 24 surviving episodes have been included in this collection.


8) Quiet, Please (1947-49) Wyllis Cooper's return to horror and mystery anthology with this heralded creepshow that ran for 2 years at the peak of the golden age of radio an was lauded as one of the best examples of the genre and of the medium of radio drama in general. 89 episodes of its estimated 106 episode run have been preserved and are available for download.

Also I'm keeping Star Wars in the archive for another month as an attention-grabber/hook. And since it is the most famous radio broadcast in history and a halloween staple, Orson Welles' War of the Worlds broadcast from his Mercury Theatre days is also still present.

I don't have YT embedded previews here yet because I believe I'm limited on how many videos I'm allowed to embed per post and I haven't sorted out the ones I want to spotlight most significantly.
Boo!
 

tiburon12

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got into a music popularity debate with a buddy - who is more well-known by the name "Liam" in the UK today, Liam Payne from One Direction or Liam Gallagher from Oasis.

On one hand Payne was in a globally popular boyband that marketed its individuals, is young and in tabloids, and who's mega-stardom was much more recent. The younger generations can't escape him.

On the other, Gallagher was the frontman of one of the biggest rock bands of the 90s with everlasting songs and is still making music today. The older generations can't forget him.

So essentially, if you were to sample the British pop and ask them to "name celebrity musical artist named Liam", would more say Gallagher or Payne?
 

Pavelski2112

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got into a music popularity debate with a buddy - who is more well-known by the name "Liam" in the UK today, Liam Payne from One Direction or Liam Gallagher from Oasis.

On one hand Payne was in a globally popular boyband that marketed its individuals, is young and in tabloids, and who's mega-stardom was much more recent. The younger generations can't escape him.

On the other, Gallagher was the frontman of one of the biggest rock bands of the 90s with everlasting songs and is still making music today. The older generations can't forget him.

So essentially, if you were to sample the British pop and ask them to "name celebrity musical artist named Liam", would more say Gallagher or Payne?
Gallagher easily and it's not even close
 

hohosaregood

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got into a music popularity debate with a buddy - who is more well-known by the name "Liam" in the UK today, Liam Payne from One Direction or Liam Gallagher from Oasis.

On one hand Payne was in a globally popular boyband that marketed its individuals, is young and in tabloids, and who's mega-stardom was much more recent. The younger generations can't escape him.

On the other, Gallagher was the frontman of one of the biggest rock bands of the 90s with everlasting songs and is still making music today. The older generations can't forget him.

So essentially, if you were to sample the British pop and ask them to "name celebrity musical artist named Liam", would more say Gallagher or Payne?
Liam Gallagher's haircut alone is more iconic.
 

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